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Tactical Peek

(1,208 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:47 PM Apr 2020

Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting nicotine patch trials on patients

Source: The Telegraph



Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting nicotine patch trials on patients

Researchers in France will test nicotine patches on health workers and patients but reiterated smoking could also cause more severe illness

By Henry Samuel 23 April 2020 • 5:04pm

Frontline health workers and patients in France may be given nicotine patches after studies found that four times fewer smokers contracted Covid-19 than non-smokers.

It may sound counterintuitive that people who puff on Gauloises are less likely to catch a virus that can cause deadly attacks on the lungs. However, that was the statistical outcome of an in-depth study conducted by the Pasteur Institute, a leading French research centre into the disease.

The institute tested almost 700 teachers and pupils of a school in Crépy-en-Valois in one of the hardest-hit areas in France, as well as their families. The “highly accurate” tests found that only 7.2 per cent of smokers from among the adults tested were infected while four times as many non-smokers, some 28 per cent, were infected.

Arnaud Fontanet, an epidemiologist at the institute, warned that they were not encouraging people to take up smoking, remarking that those smokers who do catch the virus “risk suffering more complications” than others. Scientists suggested it could be the nicotine in cigarettes that was behind the surprising results regarding infection, although more research is needed.

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Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting nicotine patch trials on patients (Original Post) Tactical Peek Apr 2020 OP
Maybe there's less blood flow to the lungs. LisaM Apr 2020 #1
I was wondering that too, sort of. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #7
And there's less blood going to the lungs to clot. LisaM Apr 2020 #11
Thinking outside the box is appreciated, at least by me. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #16
Ha! LisaM Apr 2020 #19
In most cases already dealing with impared lungs with smokers. mpcamb Apr 2020 #60
my first thought was the tar, not the nicotine yellowdogintexas Apr 2020 #83
More likely that..... capechacon Apr 2020 #54
Yep I think lung tissue changes in smokers--mayby live love laugh Apr 2020 #82
Nicotine might have something to do with blood clotting or cytokine storm . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #2
You might have figured this out Mike 03 Apr 2020 #33
An additional α7nAChR agonist, anti-inflammatory Aimee in OKC Apr 2020 #73
Cannabis ought to be able to do the same... wonder if it's being studied as well. JudyM Apr 2020 #51
Not necessarily. Nicotine is an alkaloid. Cannabis is not & has own specialized neurochemicals. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #53
It's anti-inflammatory though, and has anticoagulant properties. JudyM Apr 2020 #56
Smoke Faux pas Apr 2020 #3
Sounds like Bayesian statistics biting scientists in the rear again Loki Liesmith Apr 2020 #4
Probably because.... SergeStorms Apr 2020 #72
As An Ex-Smoker RobinA Apr 2020 #74
You don't think smokers.... SergeStorms Apr 2020 #84
Did they also test baguette eaters and pate' lovers? Wine aficionados? Jerry Lewis fans? BamaRefugee Apr 2020 #5
I'm very skeptical of studies like this IronLionZion Apr 2020 #6
Maybe the smokers, knowing they were more at risk... moriah Apr 2020 #64
We knew there was some Sgent Apr 2020 #79
Ahead of his time The Mouth Apr 2020 #8
You beat me to it. n/t customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #30
All of this self-isolating sdfernando Apr 2020 #42
! JudyM Apr 2020 #50
Maybe lung cancer, but who's counting? brush Apr 2020 #9
I'll take it. For me, the report adds a positive to smoking as a "coping mechanism." ancianita Apr 2020 #10
+1 In grade school I had a crush on Alain Delon but didn't appalachiablue Apr 2020 #29
Hahaha... yes, anything helps! ancianita Apr 2020 #39
This is what I posted on another thread about this topic. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #12
Thank you for this! Interesting stuff! ancianita Apr 2020 #40
Check out nicotine properties, anti viral, poss Alz treatment appalachiablue Apr 2020 #81
If this is true... Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #13
I have another good reason to vape right now Leith Apr 2020 #21
She freaked after all the BS erroneous media reports that failed to mention the real problem Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #26
They should also compare their findings with people who use nicotine but NOT by Mike 03 Apr 2020 #14
Interesting text from the article... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #15
Thank you for catching this. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #17
So, finally a problem we can solve with alcohol and cigarettes? htuttle Apr 2020 #18
But not at the same time, lest one combusts. eggplant Apr 2020 #41
add a little sugar and some caffeine.. stillcool Apr 2020 #46
Kick burrowowl Apr 2020 #20
The prisoners are really going to be fighting over the cigarettes now I guess. :) nt Sloumeau Apr 2020 #22
Pinched lungs or a substance that inhibits the virus bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #23
FWIW, I'm completely striking out finding ANY papers or articles Mike 03 Apr 2020 #24
OK, we'll start to see TP again Warpy Apr 2020 #25
My husband used to smoke and now vapes. EllieBC Apr 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #28
Four people I know would have loved to hear this! StarryNite Apr 2020 #31
Is it the smoke or the nicotine... imavoter Apr 2020 #32
Smokers of...what? B Stieg Apr 2020 #34
This sounds like really good news Chainfire Apr 2020 #35
Everything about this is wrong. Now I am FB my people, texting my sons. LizBeth Apr 2020 #36
My Father RobinA Apr 2020 #75
Maybe it's because smokers are obnoxious and repel others, thus achieving social distancing. Towlie Apr 2020 #37
Hey! LOTS of Democrats like me smoke! ancianita Apr 2020 #45
I find just the opposite. former9thward Apr 2020 #59
I'm An Ex-Smoker RobinA Apr 2020 #76
I quit smoking 10 years ago Skittles Apr 2020 #85
Yup, Smokers are a lot more personable I've found. tavernier Apr 2020 #78
Long long ago when I was a waitress I preferred the smoking section EllieBC Apr 2020 #80
That's my hypothesis... Hugin Apr 2020 #67
Are smokers younger? Lower BMI? Less likely to have other health issues? Tiger8 Apr 2020 #38
This was the plot of an old short story Shrek Apr 2020 #43
Hey MAGAts! This just in! HuskyOffset Apr 2020 #44
In the words of their false Messiah-- "What have you got to lose?" /nt spudspud Apr 2020 #48
Oh, I get it now. A little reverse psychology, eh? Tiger8 Apr 2020 #49
This study brought to you by your friendly, neighborhood Big Tobacco firm. /nt spudspud Apr 2020 #47
If smoking prevented Coronavirus, Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #52
and............................... trixie2 Apr 2020 #55
it doesn't make me want to go outside, barbtries Apr 2020 #57
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking! klook Apr 2020 #58
Try googling "nicotine kills viruses and bacteria" Maeve Apr 2020 #61
This study brought to you by Altria JDC Apr 2020 #62
Study sponsored by Joe Camel amuse bouche Apr 2020 #63
It's because nobody will come within 10ft of a smoker... Hugin Apr 2020 #65
Hmmm. When this first broke out in China, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #66
Let's say it turns out to be true... Hugin Apr 2020 #69
I don't believe Rebl2 Apr 2020 #71
No one gets within 6 ft of them Soxfan58 Apr 2020 #68
Call your broker in the morning and safeinOhio Apr 2020 #70
I thought this was a respiratory illness. Initech Apr 2020 #77
One of the reasons given for why Italy was hit so hard was because smoking was common JI7 Apr 2020 #86

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. I was wondering that too, sort of.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:54 PM
Apr 2020

the virus can't even find its way to the ACE2 receptors because of the tar. If the virus travels through the bloodstream though your theory makes more sense.

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
11. And there's less blood going to the lungs to clot.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:57 PM
Apr 2020

However, that was just something that popped into my head and should in no way be construed as a thought that has any merit.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
16. Thinking outside the box is appreciated, at least by me.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:03 PM
Apr 2020

I wonder about things like this all the time.

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
19. Ha!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

I just don't want to wear a nicotine patch. It doesn't seem like a good solution. I'd rather smoke, and I've never been a smoker.


mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
60. In most cases already dealing with impared lungs with smokers.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:16 PM
Apr 2020

Surprising that that is supportive.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
83. my first thought was the tar, not the nicotine
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:32 AM
Apr 2020

nicotine is a stimulant and messes with blood pressure and other things, but that layer of yuck that fills the lungs of a smoker is nasty. Seems like the virus can't penetrate it

 

capechacon

(91 posts)
54. More likely that.....
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:48 PM
Apr 2020

nicotine or some other component of the smoke is somehow toxic to corona virus.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
33. You might have figured this out
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:33 PM
Apr 2020
Nicotine is a nonselective agonist of the α7Ach receptor and is able to suppress the production of proinflammatory cytokines by mimicking the binding of acetylcholine. It has been demonstrated that nicotine can selectively reduce the inflammatory response in a number of infection scenarios, including Legionella pneumophila (54) and Chlamydia pneumoniae (55) infection; however, it is highly unlikely that nicotine will ever be used clinically due to its toxicity, addictive nature, and lack of specificity.


From Clin Vaccine Immunol. 2013 Mar; 20(3): 319–327.
doi: 10.1128/CVI.00636-12
PMCID: PMC3592351
PMID: 23283640
Targeting the “Cytokine Storm” for Therapeutic Benefit
Riccardo V. D'Elia,corresponding author Kate Harrison, Petra C. Oyston, Roman A. Lukaszewski, and Graeme C. Clark

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3592351/

There's also a paper about the use of nicotine to suppress cytokine production in Crohn's Disease:

In-vivo effect of nicotine on cytokine production by human non-adherent mononuclear cells. (result: Nicotine inhibits Interleukin 10)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8930570

Aimee in OKC

(158 posts)
73. An additional α7nAChR agonist, anti-inflammatory
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:35 PM
Apr 2020

I'd be interested to see if anyone's exploring this route since it seems to be much less toxic than nicotine.

(Excerpted from article)

https://www.medchemexpress.com/GTS-21-dihydrochloride.html

nAChR GTS-21 dihydrochloride
(Synonyms: DMXB-A; DMBX-anabaseine)

Description
GTS-21 dihydrochloride (...) a selective α7 nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, has recently been established as a promising treatment for inflammation.

Target: nAChR in vitro: GTS-21 is one of the most potent α7nAChR agonists, has been reported to attenuate pro-inflammatory cytokine production, improve outcomes in sepsis models, pancreatitis, and ischemia-reperfusion injury, and inhibit the production of endotoxin-induced TNF in lung tissue.

In addition, recent studies have demonstrated that GTS-21 inhibits the activities of endothelial cells and monocyte macrophages, as well as the secretion of pro-inflammatory cytokines in peripheral blood samples, by regulating the JAK2-STAT3 pathway.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
4. Sounds like Bayesian statistics biting scientists in the rear again
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:50 PM
Apr 2020

Good old Reverend Bayes. Fairly sure this is a garbage result.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
72. Probably because....
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:32 PM
Apr 2020

smokers know they're fucked anyway, so they take more precautions to not get the virus? It smells quite fishy to me as well.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
74. As An Ex-Smoker
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:19 PM
Apr 2020

I think I can safely say that very few smokers I ever knew think they’re fucked, and even fewer take more precautions about much of anything. For example, they smoke.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
84. You don't think smokers....
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:19 AM
Apr 2020

realize they're cutting their lives short by smoking? I used to smoke as well, and I have mild COPD because of it (I'm 70 now). With every cigarette I smoked I knew I was doing harm to my body, but nicotine is the most addicting drug I've ever come across. I haven't tried heroin, and don't plan to. I'm terribly afraid I'd like it too much.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
5. Did they also test baguette eaters and pate' lovers? Wine aficionados? Jerry Lewis fans?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:54 PM
Apr 2020

I love France and have visited several times, so I'm wondering if more is involved than just the smoking?

Could it be that bad breath from the Gauloises makes no one want to kiss them or get close to their face, thus lowering the risk of infection?

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
6. I'm very skeptical of studies like this
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:54 PM
Apr 2020
“Thus, current smoking status appears to be a protective factor against the infection by SARS-CoV-2.”

The researchers said that a “nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR)” plays a key role in infection from the coronavirus and that nicotine may act to protect this receptor from attack. It may also lessen the overreaction of the body’s immune system that has been found in the most severe cases of Covid-19 infection.


I suppose it's worth investigating everything in hopes of finding treatments but I won't be taking up smoking. No thanks

moriah

(8,311 posts)
64. Maybe the smokers, knowing they were more at risk...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:32 PM
Apr 2020

... had followed social distancing guidelines more assiduously/washed their hands more vs giving up the habit.

Though smokers do touch their face more often, and so any benefit to handwashing would have to be from it being done after re-entry into the home, and not smoking in the car between locations and trying very hard not to touch their face until they got home.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
79. We knew there was some
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:00 AM
Apr 2020

sort of interaction between smoking and COVID even as far back as Jan. Just looking at the statistics for Wuhan smokers are underrepresented.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
10. I'll take it. For me, the report adds a positive to smoking as a "coping mechanism."
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:56 PM
Apr 2020
I'm also half French. Maybe that helps, too.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
29. +1 In grade school I had a crush on Alain Delon but didn't
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

know who he was yet. I like Casablanca, watch it a lot.

In middle school I studied francaise and in college it was the Impressionists and Symbolists.

France I've visited a few times, Paris has my heart. Love New Orleans and Martinique.

I hope this helps. Merci beaucoups et Vive La France!

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
39. Hahaha... yes, anything helps!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:46 PM
Apr 2020
Merci aussi pour vos mots encourageants!

Although my second language is Spanish. Qué lástima.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. This is what I posted on another thread about this topic.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:59 PM
Apr 2020

Can't find much on the antiviral properties of nicotine, justone paper I don't want to pay to access:

S1932 Effect of Nicotine On Innate Antiviral Pathways and HCV Replication
Yamashina et al., 2008
https://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(08)63674-4/pdf
(Sorry, this link keeps posting as a broken link)

Supposedly the study asserts nicotine prevents Hepatitis C viral replication.

Nicotine causes dose-dependent inhibition of the growth of various bacterial and fungal pathogens (Pavia et al., 2000 ), and has been shown to kill parasitoids in two caterpillar species (Barbosa et al., 1986). Nicotine also has antiviral effects, as shown for the hepatitis C virus, where the alkaloid inhibits viral replication (Yamashina et al., 2008 ). In a recent study, another nectar alkaloid, gelsemine, reduced infection by a protozoan pathogen (Crithidia bombi) in bumble bees (Manson et al., 2010).


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/246722772_S1932_Effect_of_Nicotine_On_Innate_Antiviral_Pathways_and_HCV_Replication

Doubt much will come of this, but we'll see.

EDIT: Nicotine does have some interesting properties. It was studied as a possible treatment (not cure) for Alzheimer's disease at one point.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
21. I have another good reason to vape right now
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:09 PM
Apr 2020

Not only do we get the effects of nicotine without the tar, added chemicals, and smell, but my ejuice contains 30% propolyne glycol (sorry about the spelling). A gaseous solution that is often piped into hospital rooms of pneumonia patients contains 3% PG.

Not making any claims, but it may keep your mom at bay for a few minutes.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
26. She freaked after all the BS erroneous media reports that failed to mention the real problem
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:16 PM
Apr 2020

Bootleg THC cartridges.

My state and the state next door (RI and MA) both caved due to the pressure caused by those lying news reports and I have to make my own e-juice now. It crushed a lot of really good small businesses.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
14. They should also compare their findings with people who use nicotine but NOT by
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
Apr 2020

smoking cigarettes or cigars (possibly vaping, but vaping isn't the same as smoking tobacco), such as gum, lozenges, patches, snuff.

(Just an idea).

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
15. Interesting text from the article...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:03 PM
Apr 2020
The researchers said that a “nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR)” plays a key role in infection from the coronavirus and that nicotine may act to protect this receptor from attack.


Don’t be hoarding all the cartons of cigs now, people!

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
18. So, finally a problem we can solve with alcohol and cigarettes?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

Though I understand the alcohol should be poured on one's hands...

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
24. FWIW, I'm completely striking out finding ANY papers or articles
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:13 PM
Apr 2020

on a link between COVID-19 and Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChR).

Ordinarily, no matter how thin the evidence there's something interesting online. The only articles/papers that appear have to do with this new French study.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
25. OK, we'll start to see TP again
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:16 PM
Apr 2020

but people trying to quit smoking are not going to be able to find lozenges, gum, or patches for love or money.

My own guess says that smokers enjoy better social distancing from others because nonsmokers are trying to avoid the reek.

Personally, I'll wait for proof that coronavirus has something to do with nicotine receptors.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
27. My husband used to smoke and now vapes.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:18 PM
Apr 2020

I might ask him to vape more around me. Or maybe I will try it again.

Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

StarryNite

(9,443 posts)
31. Four people I know would have loved to hear this!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:29 PM
Apr 2020

Unfortunately they have all already died from lung cancer.

imavoter

(646 posts)
32. Is it the smoke or the nicotine...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:31 PM
Apr 2020

Nicotine actually helps with bleeding.
They don't like people to know that, though.



LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
36. Everything about this is wrong. Now I am FB my people, texting my sons.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:40 PM
Apr 2020

I quit 13 days ago. Now I ask, is the smoking what has kept me from getting sick for 4 decades. Quitting 13 days ago because of the virus, it is taunting me, universe taunting me. The first time I truly feel like this quitting will be easy. I stopped taking chantix cause I did not need it.

Wrong! wrong wrong.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
75. My Father
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:26 PM
Apr 2020

smoked his entire life and I never knew the man to have a respiratory infection my entire life with him, 59 years. Never once. COPD, yes. Cold? Flu? Not ever. But quitting is good, keep it up.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
45. Hey! LOTS of Democrats like me smoke!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:09 PM
Apr 2020

Me Kylie Jenner Prince (oh wait) Jessic Alba Salma Hayek Johnny Depp Brad Pitt Elijah Wood Leo DeCaprio Barack Obama

to name a few! Support Democrats!

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
59. I find just the opposite.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:13 PM
Apr 2020

Especially non smokers who want everyone to know it. And ex smokers are the worst. I don't smoke but I would rather be around smokers any day than a group of self-righteous non-smokers. When I am in a bar I go out to the patio with the smokers who are friendly and having a good time. The non-smokers are inside glumly looking at their beer.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
76. I'm An Ex-Smoker
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:29 PM
Apr 2020

and I would rather be around meat-eating smokers. That crowd outside restaurants in the city catching a smoke? They are having fun. I’d rather be out there too.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
85. I quit smoking 10 years ago
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:29 AM
Apr 2020

but I LOVE the smell of tobacco and always try to catch a whiff when passing by them - it amuses them greatly

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
78. Yup, Smokers are a lot more personable I've found.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:52 PM
Apr 2020

I don’t anymore, but I’ll fall in and chat with the doorstep people any time.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
80. Long long ago when I was a waitress I preferred the smoking section
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:20 AM
Apr 2020

This was early 90s. The smokers were way more relaxed, fun, and honestly...tipped more.

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
38. Are smokers younger? Lower BMI? Less likely to have other health issues?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:46 PM
Apr 2020

You must hold all risk factors equal.

My guess is that older people or those with existing health issues, including obesity, are less likely to smoke.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
44. Hey MAGAts! This just in!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:06 PM
Apr 2020

Cigarettes contain tar, which gets in the lungs when you smoke, therefore coronavirus hates tar, therefore, DRINKING TAR PREVENTS CORONAVIRUS! Just find your nearest roofer, have them heat you up a steaming mug of roofing tar and guzzle that sumbitch down! Yum yum, good for ya!


/sarcasm of course. DON'T DRINK TAR. You'll poke your eye out.

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
49. Oh, I get it now. A little reverse psychology, eh?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:24 PM
Apr 2020

Rest assured, no MAGAt is gonna let you restrict their "feedrom" to guzzle said mentioned bucket of tar.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
57. it doesn't make me want to go outside,
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:04 PM
Apr 2020

but it does make me feel just a little bit better about my chances of getting the virus.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
61. Try googling "nicotine kills viruses and bacteria"
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:23 PM
Apr 2020

And you'll be off down a half-million page rabbit hole that will eat up the rest of the week....

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
65. It's because nobody will come within 10ft of a smoker...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:37 PM
Apr 2020

They were ahead of the curve on social distancing.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
66. Hmmm. When this first broke out in China,
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:39 PM
Apr 2020

and men were dying at far, far higher rates than women, one explanation offered was that so many more Chinese men (two-thirds of them) smoke as compared to maybe ten percent of the women.

Here's something else that makes this report highly suspect: Smokers, like obese people, are likely to have any number of underlying health conditions. Like high blood pressure. Coronary artery disease. All kinds of compromises to the lungs. And on and on.

This is going to pan out rather like the very earliest indications that chloroquine was supposed to be effective against the virus.

I just am not buying what they are selling here.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
69. Let's say it turns out to be true...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

I think it'll be found to be a case of correlation and not a causation.

It may be a behavior common to smokers such as a tendency to maintain a physical distance from others than from the smoking itself. Which, would cause a reduction in contracting the virus.

As you pointed out, in the very different culture of China vs France, the correlation didn't hold up.

safeinOhio

(32,673 posts)
70. Call your broker in the morning and
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

go long. On average, tobacco dividend stocks pay very consistent and attractive dividends and can be a great source of income for investors.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
77. I thought this was a respiratory illness.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:24 PM
Apr 2020

How are you supposed to fight a lung infection if your lungs are fried from smoke?

JI7

(89,247 posts)
86. One of the reasons given for why Italy was hit so hard was because smoking was common
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:36 AM
Apr 2020

among the older generation when they were growing up.

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