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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:09 PM Apr 2020

U.S. Could Be Weeks From Meat Shortages With Shutdowns Spreading

Source: Bloomberg

Plant shutdowns are leaving the U.S. dangerously close to meat shortages as coronavirus outbreaks spread to suppliers across the nation and the Americas.

Almost a third of U.S. pork capacity is down, the first big poultry plants closed on Friday and experts are warning that domestic shortages are just weeks away. Brazil, the world’s No. 1 shipper of chicken and beef, saw its first major closure with the halt of a poultry plant owned by JBS SA, the world’s biggest meat company. Key operations are also down in Canada, the latest being a British Columbia poultry plant.

While hundreds of plants in the Americas are still running, the staggering acceleration of supply disruptions is now raising questions over global shortfalls. Taken together, the U.S., Brazil and Canada account for about 65% of world meat trade.

“It’s absolutely unprecedented,” said Brett Stuart, president of Denver-based consulting firm Global AgriTrends. “It’s a lose-lose situation where we have producers at the risk of losing everything and consumers at the risk of paying higher prices. Restaurants in a week could be out of fresh ground beef.”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-could-be-weeks-from-meat-shortages-with-shutdowns-spreading/ar-BB139I9V?li=BBnb7Kz



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U.S. Could Be Weeks From Meat Shortages With Shutdowns Spreading (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
k&r for visibility. This is quite serious. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #1
Yes And No sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #5
I'd think you'd look out for every one regardless of beliefs jimfields33 Apr 2020 #7
Which Is Why I Said Yes & No sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #13
For those vegetarians and vegans thinking this doesn't apply to them... regnaD kciN Apr 2020 #15
Got it. Sorry. You are correct. jimfields33 Apr 2020 #24
Yes, I'm not concerned Rorey Apr 2020 #8
I'm a vegetarian and I'm concerned FreeState Apr 2020 #31
Exactly ibegurpard Apr 2020 #50
I'm a little concerned. Neoma Apr 2020 #41
K&R Newest Reality Apr 2020 #2
Another black market opportunity bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #3
This could be very bad in coming weeks just when restaurants start to open FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #4
With so many restaurants closed or seeing reduced business wouldn't that take some pressure off? totodeinhere Apr 2020 #6
the meat packing pkants are Covid nests now. It's not for lack of buyers that they are shut down. TeamPooka Apr 2020 #29
Spread the word Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #9
I'm sure there will be tRump steak pressers in our future. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #11
Its already starting DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2020 #14
Restaurants will probably be the hardest hit economically if there is a shortage. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #10
If you've never worked in a restaurant Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #18
Trump has gotta go now. Botany Apr 2020 #12
Vegan here. World needs to stop consuming so much meat. CousinIT Apr 2020 #16
Yes, we do need to stop consuming (and wasting) so much meat. LisaM Apr 2020 #47
I'm vegetarian and mostly vegan janterry Apr 2020 #51
We'd be wise to get wiser about the planet. The pandemic is dramatically reducing JudyM Apr 2020 #52
Better start.... mbusby Apr 2020 #17
flours, grains, yeast already getting difficult to find. Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #19
Predicting massive health wave as people forced to live on plant-based foods 0nirevets Apr 2020 #20
My mom works at the Jennie-O plant mentioned in the article NickB79 Apr 2020 #21
How's that community garden coming along? 2naSalit Apr 2020 #22
We live in an apartment with no green space. LisaM Apr 2020 #48
That's unfortunate. 2naSalit Apr 2020 #49
Good thing my hens are laying well and the gardens are looking good NickB79 Apr 2020 #23
Shortage my aunt Mimi's tutu ... marble falls Apr 2020 #25
Umm, Karma13612 Apr 2020 #36
Ummmm .... where do you think that meat went ... marble falls Apr 2020 #43
Every minute that we have a complete buffoon as president makes elements of this crisis worse. Yavin4 Apr 2020 #26
Yes, we need it but the Republicans in the House and Senate will not agree to remove him so we need cstanleytech Apr 2020 #28
We may not make it to November. Yavin4 Apr 2020 #30
How do you figure that? The virus itself while severe is not severe enough to wipe us out. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #33
This is why we are probably going to have to open everything back up before this is contained cstanleytech Apr 2020 #27
A package that was around 1.4 kg of lean ground beef was EllieBC Apr 2020 #32
2$ a pound here. Not that its a big deal for us as over the past 7 years we have cut our meat cstanleytech Apr 2020 #35
Andrew Zimmern has been warning people for weeks and weeks. BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #34
+1 dalton99a Apr 2020 #39
OK, I understand Karma13612 Apr 2020 #37
Fear mongering. nt. Steelrolled Apr 2020 #38
Latest Cold Storage data from USDA: dalton99a Apr 2020 #40
What's up with turkey stockpiles lower than usual? n/t Igel Apr 2020 #42
That looks great except for turkey. truthisfreedom Apr 2020 #44
Teaching a whole country how to eat differently mahina Apr 2020 #45
I'm fine eating beans but I'm worried about a breakdown in the cat food supply chain. femmedem Apr 2020 #46

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
7. I'd think you'd look out for every one regardless of beliefs
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:25 PM
Apr 2020

I think this is terrible for the country. Another hit on the American people.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
13. Which Is Why I Said Yes & No
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:46 PM
Apr 2020

Unless it becomes a problem with the overall food supply, I'm far more concerned about other issues, like the outbreak in the plants themselves, which is the result of idiots running the situation.

I eat meat, and even I know that there are things other than beef that I can survive on if necessary.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
15. For those vegetarians and vegans thinking this doesn't apply to them...
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:52 PM
Apr 2020

People still need protein to survive. If meat becomes unavailable, look for people who normally eat meat to turn to dairy products, and then to plant-based protein, meaning that your prices will skyrocket, too.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Yes, I'm not concerned
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:27 PM
Apr 2020

Vegetarian here.

I have to admit, though, that I've got an underlying feeling of panic about food. On a personal level, I'm sure I have at least two months worth of food. I have been replenishing when there's availability, so I have maintained the same supply since this started. I still worry about everyone else. I've been encouraging my kids (all adults) to keep stocked up.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
31. I'm a vegetarian and I'm concerned
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:13 AM
Apr 2020

I don’t want a shifter demand taking all my protein supplies

Seriously though I’m concerned about the farmers and their families that will be financially devastated by this.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
50. Exactly
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 05:44 AM
Apr 2020

This would affect everyone. If meat-eaters can't get their meat they'll come for your veggies. We all have to eat something and the demand cant be instantly absorbed by another food sector.

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
4. This could be very bad in coming weeks just when restaurants start to open
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:18 PM
Apr 2020

And home shoppers will find more empty shelves.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
6. With so many restaurants closed or seeing reduced business wouldn't that take some pressure off?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:18 PM
Apr 2020

I don't know but people with room in their freezers might want to stock up now if possible.

Mr.Bill

(24,281 posts)
18. If you've never worked in a restaurant
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:45 PM
Apr 2020

you would be shocked at how much food is wasted there. It's far less efficient than home cooking.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
12. Trump has gotta go now.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:41 PM
Apr 2020

We are going to need adults to keep the lights on, the natural gas in the pipelines, the water flowing,
the trash picked up, the food supply lines open, and to treat and solve this deadly disease. Trump
is just not up that challenge.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
16. Vegan here. World needs to stop consuming so much meat.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:23 PM
Apr 2020

I don't like the loss of jobs. But as for the rest....

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
47. Yes, we do need to stop consuming (and wasting) so much meat.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:43 PM
Apr 2020

If an outcome of the pandemic is a re-examination of our eating habits, I'm all for it. I'm not completely vegetarian, but my intake of meat is pretty limited, and I'm not dairy free, but I think we could all do with lowering our meat intake.

In the short term, disrupting the food chain could be a whole new catastrophe.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
51. I'm vegetarian and mostly vegan
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 06:45 AM
Apr 2020

But I'm not worried about having to eat less or differently.

Frankly, we overeat as a country (70% of us are EITHER obese or overweight).

I've lived on very little food in my life (we used to be quite poor). We can do it again. No problem.

I'm sorry for others and their suffering. But for our home -meh. My daughter and I can cope with just about anything .

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
52. We'd be wise to get wiser about the planet. The pandemic is dramatically reducing
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 06:47 AM
Apr 2020

our collective carbon footprint. If only we’d use this as an opportunity to rethink our economy and our ethics. Dreaming of wiser world leaders and a far more vocal and activist Dem/green movement to capitalize on this moment instead of everyone jumping back onto the greed and endless suffering path.


Grasswire2

(13,567 posts)
19. flours, grains, yeast already getting difficult to find.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:57 PM
Apr 2020

Likely milk products, soon.

Potatoes and onions are rotting on farms because there's no labor or transportation for them...

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
21. My mom works at the Jennie-O plant mentioned in the article
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:05 PM
Apr 2020

They've confirmed 6 cases but there are several dozen suspected.

She said they're optimistic it will reopen this week, but with all the social distancing measures, lines will have fewer workers and be processing far fewer turkeys per hour.

Melrose is a town of 1,000 people. Rural, small town, and conservative. Everyone thought the pandemic wouldn't touch them, or thought it was a hoax. Oops.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
22. How's that community garden coming along?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:07 PM
Apr 2020

I am spending my summer growing food for the winter because I can. But it's already on a lot of people's minds. Seeds are really hard to find around here.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
48. We live in an apartment with no green space.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:46 PM
Apr 2020

Now, I'm not much into gardening anyway, so I am not saying this applies to me, but I found out recently that in Seattle, pea-patch spots, which have a waiting list, don't give preferential treatment to apartment dwellers. I mean, we don't even have a balcony to keep some basil going! You'd think that people in our situation would be able to jump the line over people with yards.

I'm editing this to add that we have some green space where we can talk, and look at a creek. We just don't have green space that's usable for things like sitting out at night or gardening.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
49. That's unfortunate.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:49 PM
Apr 2020

One of my friends lives in apartment complex but has a couple large plant pots in a sunny window for herbs. It's hard to get that sort of thing going.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
23. Good thing my hens are laying well and the gardens are looking good
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:09 PM
Apr 2020

And one just hatched out another 6 chicks today. If I'm lucky I'll have an extra dozen to butcher by the end of summer.

I should be picking up my new deer rifle next week.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
25. Shortage my aunt Mimi's tutu ...
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:46 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.wsj.com/articles/meat-piles-up-as-production-grows-and-exports-slow-1532268000


2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
Profits, prices are threatened as record amounts of red meat and poultry fill U.S. warehouses
By Jacob Bunge
July 22, 2018 10:00 am ET


Meat is piling up in U.S. cold-storage warehouses, fueled by a surge in supplies and trade disputes that are eroding demand.

Rest of the story at link.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
43. Ummmm .... where do you think that meat went ...
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:37 AM
Apr 2020

1. its hard to get figures newer than 2018, those figure are actually less than two full years, old
2. At the same time: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/americans-meat-consumption-set-to-hit-a-record-in-2018/
3. Vulture capitalists stockpile commodities for disaster exploitation.
4. If the packers dumped that kind of supply on the market don't you think farmers would have sat back quietly with lowered pricing on their herds.

Chickens have a six or eight week process to market, hogs a half a year, beef is a year.

Why would farmers have screamed of Trump's China treaty squabble, but not over dumping 2,500, 000,000 pounds of it - particularly since the export market to China is 90% about pork??? And that we don't export US chickens to China, we import Chinese chickens to the US. This surpus occurred before, during and after we cut off Chinese chicken imports to the US, temporaily.

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Dang-thats-a-lot-of-meat-AM-professor-says-as-US-surplus-grows--489031331.html

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
26. Every minute that we have a complete buffoon as president makes elements of this crisis worse.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:49 PM
Apr 2020

We need new leadership, and we need it now. Once again, the big problem is that the Republicans don't believe, nor really want, the government to succeed.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
28. Yes, we need it but the Republicans in the House and Senate will not agree to remove him so we need
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:02 AM
Apr 2020

to try to do the best we can until he is out of office.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
27. This is why we are probably going to have to open everything back up before this is contained
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:00 AM
Apr 2020

and try to deal with those that become ill as best we can because otherwise we risk major disruption in the food supply and the deaths that will occur will be the fault of the Republicans and Trump.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
32. A package that was around 1.4 kg of lean ground beef was
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:15 AM
Apr 2020

$22 at the grocery store nearest me today. That’s about $2 more per kg than it was last week. It’s ridiculous. We bought a chest freezer and put it on our balcony a couple of weeks ago and bought and stocked it.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
35. 2$ a pound here. Not that its a big deal for us as over the past 7 years we have cut our meat
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:24 AM
Apr 2020

consumption down since my mother died and we went from doing a beef roast atleast once a week to doing it about once every 1 to 2 months.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
34. Andrew Zimmern has been warning people for weeks and weeks.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:21 AM
Apr 2020

He is in the restaurant business and he has been trying to get the word out by appearing on MSNBC, posting videos, etc. I have been paying attention. Follow him on twitter.

https://t.co/dE0XgCkYgM?amp=1
https://t.co/Jui8msJNFN?amp=1
https://t.co/YcHb9KB0sJ?amp=1
https://t.co/lyuUr9CyOw?amp=1

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
37. OK, I understand
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:35 AM
Apr 2020

The producers want to limit spread of the virus. And protect their employees, and the members of their communities.

But, if this means a shortage of food for the population, is this still the best action?

Why aren’t food producers treated as vital as healthcare workers?

If we don’t have food, we starve.
Yes, we can live on beans, until they run out.

Eventually, ALL alternatives would be gone.

Then what?

mahina

(17,644 posts)
45. Teaching a whole country how to eat differently
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

Let’s give that some thought.
I Certainly see the upside for health and for the animals and for the environment. Have to figure out a way for the poor people who work in those factories to live

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
46. I'm fine eating beans but I'm worried about a breakdown in the cat food supply chain.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:31 PM
Apr 2020

Has anyone heard about that as a possibility? I googled this morning but didn't find it on anyone's radar, but it seems inevitable if there's a meat and poultry shortage.

I'd be devastated if I couldn't feed my cats.

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