Federal Court Slams Jill Stein's Attempt to Decertify Certain Electronic Voting Machines for Use in

[brooklynite]

Source: Election Law Blog

In moving to enforce the Agreement settling her 2016 lawsuit, failed presidential candidate Jill Stein asks me to bar the use of almost 4,000 voting machines, thus making it impossible for Philadelphia to participate in the 2020 presidential election. This is of a piece with the 2016 action itself: Stein’s eleventh-hour voting machine “hacking” allegations and request for a recount that would have disenfranchised some six million Pennsylvania voters. In both instances, Dr. Stein publicly announced that she seeks to promote election integrity. Yet, the Commonwealth suggest that she seeks to promote only herself. Pennsylvania’s computer expert testified credibly in 2016 that Stein’s allegations “are approximately as likely as the fact that androids from outer space are living amongst us and passing as humans.” (12/6/16 Hr’g Tr. 63:23-64 .) Her allegations now— that the challenged voting machines are unreliable and thus violate the Settlement Agreement— are as baseless and irrational. I will deny her Motion.

Read more: https://electionlawblog.org/?p=111084

[Stuart G]

1. Thank You for posting this...K and R

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Wasn't Trump's sister now retired a judge in Philly area?

McGahn from Philly?

Democrats are so lucky in this state to have unseated the decades-long control of the State Supreme Court, and to have the election reforms that Gov. Wolf managed to get through the GOP legislature. We are on a path to reclaim America.

[llashram]

4. I feel

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Stein like trump is either financially or ideologically in
Putin's back pocket or both

[WhiteTara]

10. She's in his front pocket.

[Bengus81]

5. President Donald Trump and the ensuing four year disaster, brought to you by Jill Stein

[bronxiteforever]

6. Kick and recommend. Thanks for posting!

[Dopers_Greed]

7. This story is incorrect

Should be "failed human being" Jill Stein

[iluvtennis]

8. K & R. nt

[rolypolychloe]

11. She has a point

I've read the motion. Judge seems quite biased. Pissed actually. Doesn't seem fair and balanced.

Anyway, Steins complaint is that while the new machines are producing a paper ballot, it is not a voter verifiable paper ballot and the machines design allows for the ballot to be spoiled after being viewed by the voter. Both are valid complaints

The ballot does produce a voter verifiable paper ballot, but that is not what is counted. The bar codes above the ballot are what is counted. The voter has no way of knowing that the bar codes reflect the text. So, if there is a full audit, you could actually do the counting off the text, but there are two problems with that. States tend not to do an audit unless the results are close, and if there is an audit, they tend to just put the ballots through the reader again, and not visually examine them. I think she has a point. Why not just have the text with a checkbox in front of it, blacked in or not and then feed that into an optical reader, a system that many states already use? The Judge kept asking for evidence that there has ever been a mismatch between the text and the bar code, which there has not. The Judge is logic impaired. It's not going to happen until a programmer decides they want it to happen. They never examine the software as the voting machine company always claims it is proprietary. And if they did find a mismatch, it's easy to say it was an oops. But, anything that can happen by accident can happen on purpose. So, the design is flawed in that it allows the possibility of an oops.

Her second complaint is that the ballot must pass under a thermal print head after the voter has verified it. So, the possibility exists that the ballot could be spoiled after the voter verified it. This is another valid point. A programmer could easily instruct the machine to spoil every x democratic vote. Again, there is no evidence of this happening, but its not going to happen until a programmer decides they want it to happen. Again, if caught, they can just say oops. Machine should not have been designed that way in the first place.

Judge seems to have the same attitude as others on this thread and it has colored his ruling. Her points are valid and she should have been treated better.

[Lonestarblue]

13. Many people dismiss the programming as an issue, but it is the best way to cheat.

As you said, manufacturers claim that their programs are proprietary, but they should still be required to allow random testing of programming by outside experts. Random testing, and not just when elections are close, would help keep people honest.

[Joinfortmill]

12. This woman dines with Putin. She should be investigated as a spy.