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appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:00 AM May 2020

A New Source Of Coronavirus Spread: 'Covid-19 Parties'

Source: New York Times

SEATTLE — A county in Washington State dealing with a coronavirus outbreak has identified a confounding new source of spread: “Covid-19 parties” organized so that people can deliberately mingle with an infected person in the hope of getting their own illness out of the way.

Meghan Debolt, the director of community health for Walla Walla County, said Wednesday that county investigators had learned of two such parties in the area that occurred in recent weeks. Two people who went to one of the parties, which included at least 20 attendees, have since become sick and tested positive for the virus.

The discovery astounded local leaders who had been working in recent weeks to contain a large outbreak at a meat processing facility in the area. “We want to be able to start to reopen our community,” Ms. Debolt said in an interview. “But if our community isn’t practicing proper physical distancing and social distancing guidelines, and they are intentionally trying to go and contract Covid-19, that sets us back pretty far from being able to open.”

The prospect of infection parties for people who wish to quickly contract the disease in the hope of gaining immunity has been a fear among some health experts because the country has a long history of people choosing purposeful infection. Health officials, for example, worked in the past to halt chickenpox parties at which parents sought to expose their unvaccinated children to the disease. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in those cases said it “strongly recommends against hosting or participating in these events"...


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/us/coronavirus-covid-parties.html



The '2 Covid-19 parties' held in Washington State are believed to be the first events to be confirmed by public health officials who are working to avoid, not transmit the rapid spread of an illness linked to more than 72,000 deaths in the U.S. despite widespread stay-at-home mandates.

Ms. Debolt said the 2 people who became ill after attending one of the parties in the Walla Walla area were young and have not needed hospital care. They informed health investigators that they figured they would be able to quickly recover from the virus, apparently not considering that they could then spread it to others more vulnerable to serious health effects or death.

“They feel really bad now, knowing that they put families and friends and others at risk,” Ms. Debolt said...
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A New Source Of Coronavirus Spread: 'Covid-19 Parties' (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2020 OP
Selfish idiots. C Moon May 2020 #1
Selfish, reckless endangerment of others lives. appalachiablue May 2020 #5
"Covidiots" WheelWalker May 2020 #6
Some people are just f***ing stupid. madaboutharry May 2020 #2
I suspect this may fall under the meme of yuiyoshida May 2020 #14
Guess they are caught the stoopids b4 attending benld74 May 2020 #3
A friend in his 30s has COVID-19 IronLionZion May 2020 #4
Good God! CountAllVotes May 2020 #7
I give up. Initech May 2020 #10
Not sure about the beer... yuiyoshida May 2020 #16
Thank god I live not too far from a dispensary! Initech May 2020 #19
Not only is my dispensary still growing and selling weed yuiyoshida May 2020 #20
Trump warriors. Surprised he isn't encouraging this. olddad65 May 2020 #21
My mother Wawannabe May 2020 #8
Maybe for Chicken pox (For kids) yuiyoshida May 2020 #17
kinda stupid on the chicken pox front as well stopdiggin May 2020 #22
Trump wouldn't understand a virus even if yuiyoshida May 2020 #25
It used to be common practice before wnylib May 2020 #30
Thanks Wawannabe May 2020 #32
My parents did that as well. forgotmylogin May 2020 #33
I didn't catch Chickenpox until I was 30 and 6 months pregnant LibinMo May 2020 #43
There's a certain attraction Turbineguy May 2020 #9
Hey Wawannabe May 2020 #35
: Turbineguy May 2020 #39
Just play Russian Roulette instead. It's faster and less painful. TeamPooka May 2020 #11
One in 6, Igel May 2020 #36
Sounds like a death wish to me. calimary May 2020 #12
This used to be the strategy for usual childhood diseases Warpy May 2020 #13
sorry for your experience stopdiggin May 2020 #23
IDIOTS. I blame the anti-vaxxers, who pass around the fables of 1950s "chicken pox parties"... Hekate May 2020 #15
Also Known as Anti-Lockdown Protests TomCADem May 2020 #18
Heading I think we passed that threshold already. Sin May 2020 #28
Why did they go to all the trouble of hosting parties to get the virus... Jack-o-Lantern May 2020 #24
Gee, they feel really bad rpannier May 2020 #26
If they are going to insist on doing this, Sloumeau May 2020 #27
May the odds be ever in their favor. tanyev May 2020 #29
The picture at the bottom of your post CountAllVotes May 2020 #31
Borrowed from another DUer, it's wild appalachiablue May 2020 #34
If you don't mind, I'll *borrow* it too! CountAllVotes May 2020 #38
Go for it! appalachiablue May 2020 #41
+1 CountAllVotes May 2020 #42
It's time to authorize the use of lethal force Neerav B. Trivedi May 2020 #37
Seriously? Don't tell the cops in Jersey City NJ madville May 2020 #40
Oh well! abakan May 2020 #44

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
1. Selfish idiots.
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:05 AM
May 2020

We know someone who's husband (30's) had COVID-19: he didn't need to be hospitalized, but had a 101 fever for 21 days (last we heard); the wife and son had to stay away from him until he was better. The wife and son were also told not to go out.

What kind of idiot wants to deal with that when all you have to do is stay home?

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
5. Selfish, reckless endangerment of others lives.
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:12 AM
May 2020

That man had a very strong family to have followed those restrictions and survive. Bravo to them.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
4. A friend in his 30s has COVID-19
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:09 AM
May 2020

it caused blood clots all over him, including his lungs requiring hospitalization. It affects people very differently and is not something for "getting their own illness out of the way". Young people have gotten strokes, heart attacks, and died from it already.

CountAllVotes

(20,864 posts)
7. Good God!
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:20 AM
May 2020

What the hell next?

This is so damned exhausting, all of it.

I think I give up for the nights.

Cheers everyone and stay well would y'all?

CountAllVotes

Initech

(100,029 posts)
10. I give up.
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:41 AM
May 2020

Shit like this is why people are preparing for this thing to stick around for eternity and that we'll be social distancing forever.

Sometimes the best remedy is a nice beer and to sit back and watch the madness unfold.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
19. Thank god I live not too far from a dispensary!
Thu May 7, 2020, 01:37 AM
May 2020

We're going to need a lot of that to get through this!

Wawannabe

(5,631 posts)
8. My mother
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:21 AM
May 2020

Took us over to her sister’s house when my cousin got chickenpox. They wanted us to be exposed all at the same time. Yep. I got the chicken pox.

I don’t know if it is the thing to do but that is what they did.

stopdiggin

(11,238 posts)
22. kinda stupid on the chicken pox front as well
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:21 AM
May 2020

let's not be providing any cover for sh*t-for-brains. They don't need the "understanding".. or encouragement!

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wnylib

(21,312 posts)
30. It used to be common practice before
Thu May 7, 2020, 09:21 AM
May 2020

there was a vaccine for chicken pox. Children were expected to get chicken pox, measles, and mumps before reaching puberty. The concern was that a serious case after puberty could cause sterility. Also, a if a pregnant woman got measles, it could harm the fetus. The most common side effect for a fetus was deafness, but there were others, including miscarriage or still birth.

Before the vaccines, these illnesses were so common that it was assumed everyone would get them sooner or later. It was better to get them in early childhood to develop immunity and be protected from the harm they caused to adults. Under the circumstances of the times, it was the best that people could do. Those illnesses were harder on adults. Children were more resilient.

I had all 3 by the time I got to first grade. I still have two barely visible scars from chicken pox, one at the end of my nose, and one just above one eyebrow.

Wawannabe

(5,631 posts)
32. Thanks
Thu May 7, 2020, 10:58 AM
May 2020

Felt like people thought I was advocating. Wasn’t. Just stating facts of what happened when I was a kid.

forgotmylogin

(7,519 posts)
33. My parents did that as well.
Thu May 7, 2020, 11:16 AM
May 2020
https://www.discovery.com/science/Chickenpox-So-Much-Worse-Adults-Than-Kids

Everybody knows that you need to get the chickenpox when you're young. Once you've had it, you can never catch it again, and it's way worse for adults than it is for little children — it can even be deadly, and your risks only increase the older you get. But wait ... pretty much every other disease affects small children worse than healthy adults. So what makes chickenpox so special?

LibinMo

(533 posts)
43. I didn't catch Chickenpox until I was 30 and 6 months pregnant
Thu May 7, 2020, 01:16 PM
May 2020

Believe me, it was not fun. My 6 year daughter and I had it at he same time. I was an only child and my Mom was "nasty clean" so I never caught it as a child. I wish I had.

Igel

(35,270 posts)
36. One in 6,
Thu May 7, 2020, 11:23 AM
May 2020

versus one in a thousand or more.

Risk depends on age. Low age, low risk. Over 70, you're seriously screwed, and that really skews the average.

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
13. This used to be the strategy for usual childhood diseases
Thu May 7, 2020, 01:23 AM
May 2020

Let the kid catch them and get them out of the way. My mother did it to me and antivaxers are doing it to their kids. My mother finally stopped when I was six and masles almost killed me and did kill the kid I caught it from.

These dimwits will. not. get. the. point. This disease is a potential killer and we don't yet know what the real risk factors are, beyond advanced age with multiple health problems.



stopdiggin

(11,238 posts)
23. sorry for your experience
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:26 AM
May 2020

and glad that you learned .. and are (attempting) to pass that knowledge on.
Thank you.
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Hekate

(90,538 posts)
15. IDIOTS. I blame the anti-vaxxers, who pass around the fables of 1950s "chicken pox parties"...
Thu May 7, 2020, 01:26 AM
May 2020

...to "get it out of the way." They think all those childhood diseases were/are benign. Never mind old graveyards chock full of little graves from one epidemic after another.

Gods help us all. Please.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
18. Also Known as Anti-Lockdown Protests
Thu May 7, 2020, 01:37 AM
May 2020

It sometimes seems like we are heading to the American dark ages with the distrust of facts and science and the trust in evangelicals and Trump.

Sin

(472 posts)
28. Heading I think we passed that threshold already.
Thu May 7, 2020, 06:20 AM
May 2020

All the snake-oil salesmen are starting to jump on that bandwagon as well and it's self feeding cycle Chiropractors, holistic health pseudoscience and all other manner of hucksters taped into the Q anon base because they are a pack of gullible rubes.
All they need to do is look like they believe their crazy ideas while hocking their products or patron accounts.
Heck they even further elaborate into the crazy so it makes it look like what they are selling is the answer or cure and it's getting worse every dam day.
The internet has changed how fast we learn and think. Unfortunately it has also kicked the spread stupidity up to speed of light as well.

Jack-o-Lantern

(966 posts)
24. Why did they go to all the trouble of hosting parties to get the virus...
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:42 AM
May 2020

when all they had to do was drink bleach and inject Lysol to protect themselves?

madville

(7,403 posts)
40. Seriously? Don't tell the cops in Jersey City NJ
Thu May 7, 2020, 12:28 PM
May 2020

There’s video of white officers beating a black man with a baton as they tried to break up a group of 100 people in the street who were “not following social distancing guidelines” according to the police.

You would prefer they just roll up and start shooting? I’m sure some would be happy to do that.

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