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denbot

(9,899 posts)
1. Even without a warhead, anti-ship missiles are deadly.
Mon May 11, 2020, 05:39 AM
May 2020

The kenetic energy plus remaining onboard fuel can sink a small to mid sized ManO’War.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. The missiles that hit the USS Stark didn't explode
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

it was fires created by burning propellant that caused all the damage.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
7. Are we talking sailing ships here? I believe "ManO'War" refers to vessels under sail that were
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:44 PM
May 2020

employed in previous centuries. Also, the spelling is "kinetic."

denbot

(9,899 posts)
10. Thank you sir.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:14 PM
May 2020

I am merely a Navy Vet, host to the Veterans DU group. I await your next missive.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. Guess it worked?
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:59 AM
May 2020

"A new anti-ship missile being tested by the frigate Jamaran on Sunday in the Gulf of Oman hit a support ship"

dware

(12,342 posts)
5. The US doesn't need to worry about the Iranian Navy,
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:05 PM
May 2020

they'll sink their own ships.

Anyways, condolences to the family's and friends of those killed and injured.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
8. That sounds a bit arrogant. Will that be your line when a small Iranian vessel sinks an aircraft
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:45 PM
May 2020

carrier with a cruiser missile? Don't underestimate your enemy.

Polybius

(15,368 posts)
9. Sinking an aircraft carrier is a bit much though
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:04 PM
May 2020

Last one to be sunk was February 1945.

Edit: We intentionally sank one of our own with heavy firepower from all angles, even below. It took nearly a month to sink.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2005-us-navy-tried-sink-one-its-old-aircraft-carriers-it-wasnt-easy-41132

dware

(12,342 posts)
11. Sinking an Aircraft Carrier with a cruise missile is next to impossible,
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:37 PM
May 2020

unless it's equipped with a nuclear warhead.

I was stationed aboard several carriers during my career in the Marines, they are very well protected and they have multiple back up systems for the back up system, the crews are very well trained in damage control.

I think you overestimate what the Iranian Navy can do, if even one cruise missile is detected headed towards one of our carriers, or even one of our ships, the Iranian Navy would cease to exist, and they know this.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
13. You're right, an aircraft carrier is probably not the best example. But history is littered with the
Tue May 12, 2020, 03:27 PM
May 2020

bodies of those who underestimated their enemy. Historian Francis Pike’s 2015 book Hirohito’s War: The Pacific War, 1941–1945 suggests that the marine invasion of Tarawa was so costly due in part to the fact that "Americans bred on a diet of racist propaganda which depicted Japanese as 'short, bespectacled, bucktoothed' were taken by surprise when they saw what Imperial Japanese marines actually looked like. Often the first encounter was sudden, violent hand-to-hand combat with a six-foot-tall Rikusentai. These Japanese marines were crack shots and adept at close quarters fighting. “They were good and we were pretty good, too,” one soldier recalled in Pike’s book. “So it was two of probably the best military outfits in the war.”

Every military force has its share of horrendous accidents. The demise of the USS Thresher comes to mind, for one. The recent collision by the USS John S. McCain and the USS Fitzgerald are another example. Would you judge our military by these incidents?

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