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brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:22 PM May 2020

U.S. diplomat's wife accused of killing British teen 'Wanted Internationally'

Source: Politico

An Interpol Red Notice has been issued for the wife of a U.S. intelligence officer charged with causing the death of a teenage motorcyclist in the U.K.

According to the Independent, the parents of Harry Dunn, who was killed near a Royal Air Force base in Northamptonshire in August, were informed by British police that Anne Sacoolas is now “Wanted Internationally” and “should she leave the USA the wanted circulations should be enacted.”

Sacoolas left the U.K. shortly after the crash in which Dunn was killed and claimed diplomatic immunity. In October, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson asked U.S. President Donald Trump to "reconsider the U.S. position" and Dunn's parents met Donald Trump at the White House, when he offered them a meeting with Sacoolas, which they declined.

She was charged with causing death by dangerous driving in December but a month later, the U.S. rejected Britain’s request for extradition.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/11/us-diplomats-wife-accused-of-killing-british-teen-wanted-internationally-249062

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U.S. diplomat's wife accused of killing British teen 'Wanted Internationally' (Original Post) brooklynite May 2020 OP
She needs to own her disastrous mistake. badhair77 May 2020 #1
Yes, but getting away with it is the white American way. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #6
Are you suggesting that diplomatic immunity has only been used by white Americans? jberryhill May 2020 #16
In the big picture, white privilege reaches to every aspect of society in America. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #17
And the relevant treaty binds every signatory in addition to America jberryhill May 2020 #18
Diplomatic immunity crosses the globe. That's why she tried to use it in the first place. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #23
Of course white privilege is pervasive everywhere. totodeinhere May 2020 #22
agreed Skittles May 2020 #28
Trump's done some awful things, but ambushing the victim's family last year still stands out for me. Bleacher Creature May 2020 #2
He probably said something to the Dunns about "making a deal" LastDemocratInSC May 2020 #10
Remember when Trump tried to spring this absconder on the family so they could hug it out greenjar_01 May 2020 #3
The Art of the heal. gibraltar72 May 2020 #4
Or is it the art of the heel? 2naSalit May 2020 #5
Sounds like a job for Dawg the Bounty Hunter. marble falls May 2020 #7
Looks like she won't be traveling outside the Continental US anytime soon. Historic NY May 2020 #8
Yet another bit of fucked up justice that Joe Biden will have to fix. RainCaster May 2020 #9
She's both wanted and unwanted internationally. n/t Harker May 2020 #11
So there is an international warrant. Why aren't there any for 3Hotdogs May 2020 #12
Erik Prince? CaptYossarian May 2020 #13
No crimes. No jurisdiction. Nt hack89 May 2020 #26
Family members of diplomats plus this stuff all the time RVN VET71 May 2020 #14
I'm actually surprised Sgent May 2020 #15
It's not only Diplomats and their family members DENVERPOPS May 2020 #19
Matthew Broderick? That has nothing to do with anything jberryhill May 2020 #21
LOL DENVERPOPS May 2020 #25
Your point? jberryhill May 2020 #27
It was a shooting, and the bouncer survived jberryhill May 2020 #20
Ouch. This old brain is starting to get too freaking creative RVN VET71 May 2020 #29
General Flynn is available again. Corgigal May 2020 #24

badhair77

(4,208 posts)
1. She needs to own her disastrous mistake.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:27 PM
May 2020

She can’t fix it. A young man is dead. But she needs to face the consequences, which keep getting worse as she prolongs the situation.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Are you suggesting that diplomatic immunity has only been used by white Americans?
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:11 PM
May 2020

Because that is ridiculously untrue.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
17. In the big picture, white privilege reaches to every aspect of society in America.
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:15 PM
May 2020

That is what I'm suggesting.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. And the relevant treaty binds every signatory in addition to America
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:21 PM
May 2020

Because many of the diplomats who have committed crimes in the United States and have been protected by the same treaty obligations are neither white nor American.

Violating treaties on the other hand, which is pretty much what most people want here, does tend to be strongly associated with the behavior of white people in America.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
23. Diplomatic immunity crosses the globe. That's why she tried to use it in the first place.
Mon May 11, 2020, 05:45 PM
May 2020

And absolute power corrupts, absolutely, no matter what country is involved.

If there is anything particularly interesting in this case, it's that it doesn't seem to be working for her.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
22. Of course white privilege is pervasive everywhere.
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:29 PM
May 2020

but in this case I doubt if it would’ve made any difference what race the woman is. The fact that she was a diplomat’s wife is all that is relevant

Skittles

(153,104 posts)
28. agreed
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:37 PM
May 2020

This is all so ridiculous....by all accounts it seemed to be a terrible accident, but she made things SOOOOO much worse by running.....she should have stayed and retained a lawyer and face the justice system.........now she has disgraced herself, her country, and very much added to the distress of the victim's family. Disgusting.

Bleacher Creature

(11,250 posts)
2. Trump's done some awful things, but ambushing the victim's family last year still stands out for me.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:29 PM
May 2020

He literally has no ability to empathize with other human beings, which is why he thought that setting up a meeting with their son's killer was a good idea.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
3. Remember when Trump tried to spring this absconder on the family so they could hug it out
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:29 PM
May 2020

More delusion from the dipshit in chief.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
8. Looks like she won't be traveling outside the Continental US anytime soon.
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:35 PM
May 2020

Another case of the 'rule of law' being perverted, by the entitled class.

RainCaster

(10,815 posts)
9. Yet another bit of fucked up justice that Joe Biden will have to fix.
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:52 PM
May 2020

Part of rolling back all the DFT's messes.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
14. Family members of diplomats plus this stuff all the time
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:25 PM
May 2020

Living and working in Washington, I have read stories of foreign diplomats committing crimes much more egregious than this one -- and simply flying away home, protected by the soiled badge of diplomatic immunity. And the U.S. has been historically feeble in its responses to their crimes. In one a woman was struck by a car and totally paralyzed. The driver Wass the son of the ambassador from, I think, Nigeria, and he simply flew home with justice unable to touch him. Another, even more egregious, the son of the ambassador from Brazil stabbed a man to death outside a bar in Georgetown. Same thing. he was spirited away home, untouched by the hand of American justice.

One was an accident, the other a cold blooded murder. The first was carrying "diplomatic immunity", presumably because he held a high level position at the Nigerian embassy, that protected him from American justice. In the second case, the murderer, son of a diplomat, was spirited out of the country and Brazil refused a call to extradite.

In another instance, the chief of police in Paramus NJ booked, printed and mugged the wife of a Soviet ambassador (not "the" ambassador, one of those lesser luminaries who sign papers at consulates). The State Department was furious and sent a delegation to the Paramus town jail to free the woman, poor baby, who had been arrested for shoplifting at a local Bambergers Department Store. The State Department issued a stern and serious rebuke to the police chief who just laughed at it and said he, frankly, didn't care about the hacks in Washington -- if you come into his jurisdiction and commit a crime, you're going to be treated like any other criminal.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
15. I'm actually surprised
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:50 PM
May 2020

that Scotland Yard is going so far as to issue an international arrest warrant -- that's cutting it very close to violating the Geneva Convention on Diplomatic Protocols.

IMHO she should be tried in federal court for the crime if the UK is willing, but there are reasons these agreements exist.

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
19. It's not only Diplomats and their family members
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:23 PM
May 2020

Do you remember the accident caused by Matthew Broderick????????? And I am sure there are countless others......
even on U.S. soil.............

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Matthew Broderick? That has nothing to do with anything
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:27 PM
May 2020

He was criminally prosecuted and paid his fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Broderick#1987_car_crash

He was charged with causing death by dangerous driving and faced up to five years in prison, but was later convicted of the lesser charge of careless driving and fined £100 (US$175).
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. It was a shooting, and the bouncer survived
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1982/12/02/diplomats-son-released-after-tavern-shooting/61398782-7a94-4acb-845e-ef22cd32cb03/

Antonio F. Azeredo da Silveira Jr., son of the Brazilian ambassador to the United States, was arrested Monday night and charged with shooting the bouncer of a Northwest Washington bar, but the charge was dismissed yesterday because the man has diplomatic immunity, according to law enforcement sources.

Silveira, who refused to give police his name or address at the time of his arrest, was initially listed as John Doe and charged with assault with a dangerous weapon. The charges were formally dropped in D.C. Superior Court yesterday after Silveira identified himself at the D.C. police central cell block Tuesday night, sources said.

According to a D.C. Police affidavit filed in court, Silveira pulled two pistols in The Godfather nightclub at 4934 Wisconsin Ave. NW, and was chased out of the establishment by the bouncer, Kenneth W. Skeen, and one other person. After a short chase, Silveira allegedly shot Skeen three times, before being subdued.

Skeen, 23, of Silver Spring, was listed in satisfactory condition at Georgetown University Hospital yesterday. He declined to be interviewed, but he was described by a visitor as being upset that the charges against Silveira were dropped.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
29. Ouch. This old brain is starting to get too freaking creative
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:29 PM
May 2020

Yes, that was the case I was talking about -- but, wow, my memory recast it seriously wrong. I had it in my mind very clearly that the report was a knifing that led to a death and that the perp was spirited out of the country before the police found him.

I'm my own best example of why I don't have much faith in eyewitness testimony.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
24. General Flynn is available again.
Mon May 11, 2020, 06:10 PM
May 2020

For the right amount of money, he can grab her and throw her in the back of a private plane.

He’s got nothing else to do right now.

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