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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:24 AM May 2020

New Mexico mandates masks in public, inside and outside, as state begins to reopen

Source: The Hill

New Mexico will require face coverings in all public spaces starting Saturday as the state moves forward with the first phase of its reopening plan, Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) said Wednesday.

“As the state opens up more and more and risk increases, the only way we save lives and keep the gating criteria where it is is if we’re all wearing face coverings,” she said during a briefing. “This is not something we’re used to or accustomed to and I just really want us to do the right thing.”

The state is mandating everyone wear face coverings in indoor and outdoor public spaces. People exercising outdoors are exempt from the requirement.

“It’s not a guarantee against the virus, but it really helps slow the spread, and that’s why we’re mandating it,” the governor said.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/497689-new-mexico-mandates-masks-in-public-inside-and-outside-as-state-begins



Starting Saturday, retailers can operate at 25 percent capacity. Other non-essential businesses, such as office spaces and call centers, can also operate at 25 percent capacity but the order encourages employees to work from home wherever possible.

The order will also allow houses of worship to open with 10 percent capacity.
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New Mexico mandates masks in public, inside and outside, as state begins to reopen (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2020 OP
NM has a plan. good. riversedge May 2020 #1
Yep, hope the damned things turn up when they're supposed to Warpy May 2020 #2
My son and daughter-in-law live in New Mexico ribrepin May 2020 #6
Will it be enough to keep trump's armed goons at bay? PSPS May 2020 #3
Hey, at least the state is laying down some rules. stopdiggin May 2020 #4
I'm in south central New Mexico, very right-wing Republican duhneece May 2020 #11
a bit off topic stopdiggin May 2020 #13
Awaiting Death Count Donnie's New Mexico Lawsuit against wearing masks in 1...2.... Brainfodder May 2020 #5
N.M. GOP has already asked AG Barr for help left-of-center2012 May 2020 #8
People exercising outdoors should have to wear two masks Blues Heron May 2020 #7
Sounds like more's going on than just SARS-CoV-2. Igel May 2020 #9
the little snorting pig yesterday was definitely a pig-human Blues Heron May 2020 #10
I wear a mask almost everywhere. ForgoTheConsequence May 2020 #12
yeah. and, incidentally, the science agrees stopdiggin May 2020 #14
70 people got it at that outdoor protest Blues Heron May 2020 #17
nonsense (nt) stopdiggin May 2020 #18
If someone tells you science says don't wear a mask Blues Heron May 2020 #19
I actually have quite a bit of science stopdiggin May 2020 #21
I'm not running through a protest. ForgoTheConsequence May 2020 #24
why are you so afraid of wearing a mask? Blues Heron May 2020 #30
I told you already, I wear a mask everywhere (when I'm close to people). ForgoTheConsequence May 2020 #31
They come at you fast, they don't care, sometimes you can't move into traffic Blues Heron May 2020 #15
You sound worked up. ForgoTheConsequence May 2020 #25
just put on a mask bro Blues Heron May 2020 #27
Same here but I already run in the street. Ace Rothstein May 2020 #16
And you shouldn't be expected to. ForgoTheConsequence May 2020 #26
You got to wonder about people talking down masks during a pandemic Blues Heron May 2020 #28
I'm more concerned about the body police. ForgoTheConsequence May 2020 #33
Outside seems a bit silly in most areas MosheFeingold May 2020 #20
"suppose I can jog for a bit .." stopdiggin May 2020 #22
"People exercising outdoors are exempt from the requirement." left-of-center2012 May 2020 #23
Seems silly until you get the rona Blues Heron May 2020 #29
Because I live in NM MosheFeingold May 2020 #32

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
2. Yep, hope the damned things turn up when they're supposed to
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:56 AM
May 2020

It's going to be a whole load of fun in triple digit heat.

My guess is that the cities will be mostly compliant. Rural areas will be less so, if only because there are fewer places to go and fewer places to get the masks.

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
6. My son and daughter-in-law live in New Mexico
Thu May 14, 2020, 05:21 AM
May 2020

They have been wearing masks and are complaining about the heat. It's just starting to warm up here and I can see what they are talking about. It's going to be a fun summer.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
4. Hey, at least the state is laying down some rules.
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:37 AM
May 2020

Credit where credit is due.
I guess next we'll have to see whether the "can't tell me" crowd shows up in force to protest the tyranny of wearing a mask.
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duhneece

(4,112 posts)
11. I'm in south central New Mexico, very right-wing Republican
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:45 PM
May 2020

My comment to our wonderful Governor has prompted many comments opposed to masks...claiming tyranny as you said. My husband is very excited and pleased...I'm concerned if folks here don't wear masks.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
13. a bit off topic
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020

but ask some of these jokers if they think that wearing hard hats and steel-toed boots at the worksite is "tyranny." And then explain to me how that is "different." I'll wait.

"You get to decide whether or not you feel like wearing your hard hat at work today?"

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
5. Awaiting Death Count Donnie's New Mexico Lawsuit against wearing masks in 1...2....
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:51 AM
May 2020


Where will be the first assholefest in New Mexico?
I feel their feeble minds spinning and 200 no maskers showing up in New Mexico before the end of the week for that prized jackass photo op they are known for?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
8. N.M. GOP has already asked AG Barr for help
Thu May 14, 2020, 08:51 AM
May 2020

Says the governor has no right telling citizens to protect themselves against a deadly virus.

"My body, my choice !"
(except the 'guvment' can outlaw abortion?)

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
7. People exercising outdoors should have to wear two masks
Thu May 14, 2020, 07:26 AM
May 2020

they're the worst! All these truly disgusting runners barrelling down the sidewalk at you GROSS GROSS GROSS! go find another place where you aren't INFECTING everybody you filthy pig! FFS put on a mask! Sick of these filthy fucking maskless runners. SO FUCKING GROSS!

Igel

(35,300 posts)
9. Sounds like more's going on than just SARS-CoV-2.
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:21 AM
May 2020

In any event, it pays to remember that they're actually people and not dehumanized "pigs". If the overall, cumulative infection rate is less than 2% that it means far more than 99% of the people you encounter are actually not infecting anybody because they're simply not infectious.

Even if 5% of the population had been exposed, the current infectious population is still really, really low.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
12. I wear a mask almost everywhere.
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:59 PM
May 2020

But I'm not going to wear one when I'm running. I move into the streets or switch sides (you can do this too) when someone is coming in the opposite direction.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
14. yeah. and, incidentally, the science agrees
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:27 PM
May 2020

with your position .. and not the rant you're responding too. By far the most incidence of viral contraction is happening indoors. Outdoor settings, particularly with some distancing .. much, much less of a concern. You're doing good. (and some people aren't going to be satisfied unless you're in a haz-mat suit)

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
17. 70 people got it at that outdoor protest
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:12 PM
May 2020

So yeah, wear a mask when you're out in public. Stop spreading misinformation.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
21. I actually have quite a bit of science
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

and medical opinion backing up that position.

But the recommendations from that community on when masking is mandated, suggested, or deemed unnecessary have always been much more situational, tailored and nuanced to real life occasion than anything you would be interested in hearing. And .. not all of us live in downtown Gotham .. all the while appreciating that it might present a special set of problems. But your reaction to it seems .. a bit overwrought? In any event, you have a nice one, Blues.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
24. I'm not running through a protest.
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:44 AM
May 2020

I'm running on a street and pass maybe 10-15 people over 3 miles (from a distance of over 6 feet)


Also, my B.S. is in public health and my MPH in epidemiology. I'm quite capable of calculating the risks (of which are virtually zero).

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
30. why are you so afraid of wearing a mask?
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:47 AM
May 2020

Do you think it makes you look weak? That's a concern for a lot of fitness bros

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
31. I told you already, I wear a mask everywhere (when I'm close to people).
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:17 AM
May 2020

Why do you assume my gender? Do you assume only men run? You have no idea what gender I identify with. Strange observation.

I don't wear a mask because running 1) It's not necessary 2) I enjoy the fresh air (again no one is around me) 3) I have an understanding of how the virus travels.


I'm not wearing a mask right now and I just sneezed from seasonal allergies. You might want to unplug your router and modem for 5 minutes just to be safe.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
15. They come at you fast, they don't care, sometimes you can't move into traffic
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:47 PM
May 2020

Just find a place to do your sweaty exercise AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE. Please wear a mask when you run. Stop inflicting your unmasked self on others

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
25. You sound worked up.
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:45 AM
May 2020

Maybe I can send you a training regimen and you can work off some of your anxiety and anger.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
27. just put on a mask bro
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:41 AM
May 2020

we could end this thing if you did. Huffing up to someone on a sidewalk during a pandemic is one of the most antisocial things you can do.

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
16. Same here but I already run in the street.
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:58 PM
May 2020

I won't be wearing a mask when I'm running, biking or doing yard work.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
26. And you shouldn't be expected to.
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:47 AM
May 2020

There is a time and a place for (masks) but there is no reason to throw out the hard science to make someone feel better.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
33. I'm more concerned about the body police.
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:00 PM
May 2020

You seem very concerned about what I wear when I'm not close to you and what gender I am. You've embarrassed yourself on the internet and you're not any safer. Congrats!

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
20. Outside seems a bit silly in most areas
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:43 PM
May 2020

I get it in the city (to the extent we have one), but, say, the hiking trail in the Lincoln National Forest I walk on most days?

I'm not jogging. Just going for a stroll. I suppose if the police come after me, I can jog for a bit. But I'm closer to 100 than 90 now.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
22. "suppose I can jog for a bit .."
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:59 PM
May 2020

but only in extremis! thanks for the image! you just made my day!
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Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
29. Seems silly until you get the rona
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:44 AM
May 2020

70 people got it outside at that protest. Just wear a mask. Why be a rebel?

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
32. Because I live in NM
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

I understand the must-wear-mask-outside, if I still lived in NYC or Washington DC.

But my son (wisely) determined it was unsafe for me to live alone in NYC (because of racist attacks in our neighborhood), so he moved me to the middle of the woods in New Mexico, where the population density is . . . . I can see another house with binoculars down in the valley, if I can hold them steady.

The NYC (or even Sante Fe) rules-fits-all approach is silly.

When I go to town to the Wal-Mart, I wear a mask.

To re-purpose Yogi Berra's quote, the spread of Covid "depends on two factors: (1) the density of the population and (2) the density of the population." Factors 1 and 2 are not the same.

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