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Omaha Steve

(99,579 posts)
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:31 AM May 2020

Biden says he would not pardon Trump

Source: NBC News

Biden committed to ensuring that any prosecutorial decisions would be dictated by the law, in contrast to what he called the "dereliction of duty” by Trump and his attorney general, William Barr.

By Mike Memoli
Former Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he would not pardon President Donald Trump if elected and insisted any prosecutorial decisions would be left to a more independent Justice Department.

Answering questions in a virtual town hall-style event on MSNBC Thursday, the Democratic presidential hopeful was asked by a voter about whether he’d follow the lead of former President Gerald Ford, who pardoned Richard Nixon in large part to help the nation move beyond the Watergate scandal.

Biden, while not speaking to any specific potential charge, committed to ensuring that any prosecutorial decisions would be dictated by the law, in contrast to what he called the "dereliction of duty” by Trump and his attorney general, William Barr.

"It's hands off completely. The attorney general is not the president's lawyer. It's the people's lawyer,” Biden said. “We never saw anything like the prostitution of that office like we see it today.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-says-he-would-not-pardon-trump-n1207531

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Biden says he would not pardon Trump (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2020 OP
that's a step in the right direction, but I also want... Javaman May 2020 #1
+1 for scorched earth policy. Stop playing nice. nt. Hotler May 2020 #7
Absolutley 100%. ffr May 2020 #8
He actually said prostitution? Hahahahaha truthisfreedom May 2020 #2
+1. Barr belongs in prison dalton99a May 2020 #5
Those caricatures (especially Barr) are perfect likenesses. Amazing! nt Lord Ludd May 2020 #22
Biden and Stacy did a great job. This was very important for him to commit to. samsingh May 2020 #3
i was watching it up til Lawrence brought up tara..then i shut it off and didnt even watch Stacey :( samnsara May 2020 #4
I am hoping Biden learned from Obama's mistake in not going after the Iraqi war liars beachbumbob May 2020 #6
Carter had to move on from the crimes of Nixon robbob May 2020 #9
ford already took care of the crimes of nixon before carter took office. besides, nixon beachbumbob May 2020 #12
Yeah, it seems the more they get away with robbob May 2020 #14
3 years of trump admin actions with no repercussions to speak of to him or most of his people beachbumbob May 2020 #15
He said he'd be hands off Bayard May 2020 #10
Bill Barr... dixiechiken1 May 2020 #11
Trump has set the Barr very low. lagomorph777 May 2020 #13
K and R...Thank You for posting..nt Stuart G May 2020 #16
Trump will probably seek asylum in Russia Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #17
This is one of the most welcome posts ever seen! Thank you, Omaha Steve. Wonderful. Judi Lynn May 2020 #18
Easy to say now of course LiberalLovinLug May 2020 #19
Not just no! HELL NO!!! CTyankee May 2020 #20
I fear it only motivates Repugs luv2fly May 2020 #21

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
1. that's a step in the right direction, but I also want...
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:44 AM
May 2020

a scorched earth policy when going after the right wing racist crooks. No one gets away. all get brought up on charges, all have to pay court fees out of their own pockets. I want to cripple the right wing machine that destroyed this nation.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. I am hoping Biden learned from Obama's mistake in not going after the Iraqi war liars
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:09 AM
May 2020

the greatest failing of the obama admin was not doing this. Biden should hammer this home, any and all criminal wrongdoing will be investigated and prosecuted, no matter who.

robbob

(3,527 posts)
9. Carter had to move on from the crimes of Nixon
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:31 AM
May 2020

Clinton had to move on from the crimes of Reagan and Bush senior. Obama had to move on from the crimes of Shrub and Cheney. All so “the nation can heal”. “Looking forward, not back”. “Uniting the country”.

When are we going to wake up and insist on holding these criminals accountable?

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
12. ford already took care of the crimes of nixon before carter took office. besides, nixon
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:08 AM
May 2020

crimes pales in the face of the destruction of the middle east and now we have the criminal GOP/trump cabal and we need deep investigation and McCarthy type hearings into GOP, GOP groups, congresspeople and senators as well as the trump family of criminals and their associates

I see trumps new campaign slogan, "you MUST vote for me so I don;t have to go to prison to die"

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
15. 3 years of trump admin actions with no repercussions to speak of to him or most of his people
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:17 AM
May 2020

what does he have to fear? Now if we start talking about criminal investigations and convictions and NO pardons, well that sets a different tone than "strongly worded letter" doesn't it?

Nearly 60% of america knows trump is a liar thats the people we motivate to vote. The otherside has no way to grow their voter base at all.

Bayard

(22,055 posts)
10. He said he'd be hands off
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

Whatever Kamala Harris or Adam Schiff decide to do as AG is their decision.

I thought both Biden and Abrams did well last night, although sometimes it was hard for Joe to get a word in.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,170 posts)
19. Easy to say now of course
Fri May 15, 2020, 05:48 PM
May 2020

I can see if Biden wins, that two month drag between admins, Trump and his cult will be first crowing that the election was rigged, and try and stay in power. If that doesn't work, he and the Rs will use Fox News and every RW outlet to use a kind of mass extortion against the country that IF Democrats proceed to procecute Trump, they will start a civil war.

Not that they would win against the army, but the resulting chaos and cost and turmoil beginning to foment might make Biden (and lets face it, no D AG would proceed without Biden's blessing) relent at that time and have to make a promise to "move forward".

I hope the Democrats steer away from their usual fear of confrontation, and push ahead anyways. Even if there is bloodshed and violence to quell in the first months. No one said it would be easy. And Democrats too often choose the temporary easy road. But this is about the long term health of the country, constitutionally.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
21. I fear it only motivates Repugs
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:30 PM
May 2020

There is value in holding your cards close and not sharing your hand. Do what you will Joe, but don't talk too much about these kind of plans until after you win.

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