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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:42 PM May 2020

Senate Republicans issue first subpoena in Obama-era probes

Source: The Hill

Senate Republicans issued their first subpoena on Wednesday as part of wide-ranging investigations tied to the Obama administration.

The Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee voted along party lines to issue a subpoena for Blue Star Strategies, a firm with ties to Ukraine gas company Burisma Holdings.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), the chairman of the panel, has homed in the U.S firm as he probes Hunter Biden's work for Burisma Holdings, where Biden-the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive 2020 Democratic nominee-was a member of the board until he stepped down in 2019.

The subpoena asks for records from Jan. 1, 2013, to the present of Blue Star strategies "related to work for or on behalf of Burisma Holdings or individuals associated with Burisma." He's also requesting an interview with top Blue Star officials to discuss the subpoena.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-republicans-issue-first-subpoena-in-obama-era-probes/ar-BB14n8MG?li=BBnbcA1



This will backfire
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Senate Republicans issue first subpoena in Obama-era probes (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP
These traitors want to get patriots so angry they will react. Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #1
I hope they take this to the courts leftieNanner May 2020 #2
They Should Subpoena Some Bush People And Look Into The WMD Lies While They Are At It DanieRains May 2020 #3
Democrats need to tell these fucks to pound sand. They don't have to respond. Just like pukes for onecaliberal May 2020 #4
GOP set the precedent. Ignore the f'in subpoenas. lagomorph777 May 2020 #27
Couldn't agree more. The reply should be you first. onecaliberal May 2020 #32
Who cares? No one has to answer to subpoenas anymore... Sancho May 2020 #5
+1 bronxiteforever May 2020 #9
They need to do a Trump & ignore the subpoenas dlk May 2020 #6
I'm with you. Play their game but play it harder. Nobody was held in contempt anyway. Firestorm49 May 2020 #28
They might as well... dlk May 2020 #30
Use their Playbook; Run Out the Clock. djacq May 2020 #7
Gee, I thought complying with subpoenas was now optional?? Evolve Dammit May 2020 #8
The company told republicans that they would "freely" . . . Iliyah May 2020 #10
No one cares, Corgigal May 2020 #11
Transparent. If you listen carefully you can hear the command- "Heel! Bad dog. Sic em." mahina May 2020 #12
this is awesome. now we'll be able to investigate trump crimes vigorously unblock May 2020 #13
Oh man! They're going to have a collective stroke when we do this to them. BComplex May 2020 #19
The job is to do stuff for your constituents.. Maxheader May 2020 #14
Ginned up, manufactured, a put-up job, fake, illegitimate, and a big *YAWN* bucolic_frolic May 2020 #15
I hope (and am fairly confident) DFW May 2020 #16
That should be "wasting time, energy and money during a deadly national emergency" muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #20
Article from NY Post today: I'll just post the last paragraph.. Budi May 2020 #17
Toilet paper. Nt BootinUp May 2020 #18
The Democrats Chainfire May 2020 #21
People are dying by the thousands daily and THIS is what Republicans are doing? hamsterjill May 2020 #22
BULLSHIT! liberalmuse May 2020 #23
Do what Republicans do... Ignore the subpoenas world wide wally May 2020 #24
Go to court then Buzz cook May 2020 #25
It's really weird watching them operate this strategy now EarlG May 2020 #26
Subpoenas? Scarsdale May 2020 #29
Don't ignore the subpoenas Pantagruel May 2020 #31
Mike Bloomberg's aide said if they go after the Biden's with this they will go scorched earth Thekaspervote May 2020 #33
Well the US Supreme Court said the rule of law doesn't exist anymore, so this stunt by the fascists turbinetree May 2020 #34
There's not going to be enough towels to wipe the egg off their faces. marble falls May 2020 #35
Looking forward to 8+ years of Trumpgate inquiries BadgerKid May 2020 #36
Do not comply and keep it in court until Trump and GoP Senate JCMach1 May 2020 #37
So Hunter used his name like Ivanka uses hers to make money? rickford66 May 2020 #38
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
3. They Should Subpoena Some Bush People And Look Into The WMD Lies While They Are At It
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:44 PM
May 2020

Ya think?

Rummy, Tenet, and Cheney fell off the face of the Earth.

They got their war, and I am sure they got paid.

onecaliberal

(32,824 posts)
4. Democrats need to tell these fucks to pound sand. They don't have to respond. Just like pukes for
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:46 PM
May 2020

trump do not respond.

dlk

(11,549 posts)
6. They need to do a Trump & ignore the subpoenas
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:46 PM
May 2020

How many Trump administration officials have ignored subpoenas?

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
8. Gee, I thought complying with subpoenas was now optional??
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:48 PM
May 2020

Maybe rabid Goopers will show how it's done. Or try anyhow...

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. The company told republicans that they would "freely" . . .
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:50 PM
May 2020

produce the records. The subpoena is a show, just like the need to attack Hunter Biden.

To be honest, I'm pretty sure they have all documents and records at hand. That is why t-rump and cronies needed to make up shit.

It's nothing there. Mind you, republicans will make up shit tho.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
11. No one cares,
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:52 PM
May 2020

almost 93,000 dead. People can’t pay rent, or groceries.

They are so up their own asses, they can’t see how foolish this is. Living in the past, like I’m sure the dead would like to be.

mahina

(17,643 posts)
12. Transparent. If you listen carefully you can hear the command- "Heel! Bad dog. Sic em."
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:53 PM
May 2020

Turn on your owner. He isn’t worthy of loyalty and you are going to be destroyed for helping him.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
13. this is awesome. now we'll be able to investigate trump crimes vigorously
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

since republicans are investigating the previous administration, we'll have an easy retort when they whine about us investigating them once biden is president.

they'll say it's bad form or whatever for the party in power to investigate the previous one.

we'll be able to point out they have no leg to stand on after doing exactly that.


and of course, this is completely aside from the fact that democrats are only ever interested in investigating actual crimes, whereas republicans are only ever interested in smearing democrats.

Maxheader

(4,372 posts)
14. The job is to do stuff for your constituents..
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

Not muck up the justice system with fictitious bullshit...

Kanaas was good at that when brownbutt was the guv...bastard, him and kohack..

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
15. Ginned up, manufactured, a put-up job, fake, illegitimate, and a big *YAWN*
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:59 PM
May 2020

and to the general public, very transparent motives.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
16. I hope (and am fairly confident)
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:03 PM
May 2020

The Democrats should keep a think and detailed file of all Republican actions in this matter, written and video, and use the phony accusations during the fall campaign for GOTV purposes. The message is, "if Republicans are wasting time, energy and money on prosecuting a popular former president they KNOW is innocent, what do you think they'll try to do to you when it's YOUR turn?"

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
20. That should be "wasting time, energy and money during a deadly national emergency"
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:21 PM
May 2020

We need to remind people that Republicans are pursuing partisan wild goose chases for electoral propaganda, when their constituents are dying. They could be passing the Democratic relief bill, rather than trying to fool people into voting Republican. It's not just "when it's your turn", it will be "Americans died because the Republicans didn't do their job".

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
17. Article from NY Post today: I'll just post the last paragraph..
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:04 PM
May 2020
https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/joe-bidens-phone-calls-with-former-ukraine-president-poroshenko-released/amp/


Recording of calls between Joe Biden, ex-Ukraine President Poroshenko leaked

SNIP

The released recordings do not mention Hunter Biden or Burisma.

Derkach, a former member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions, has pushed for a corruption case against the Bidens. He and Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s personal attorney, met in Kiev in December.


Derkach has previously claimed Biden pressured Ukraine in December 2015 to force Shokin’s resignation and dangled $1 billion in loan guarantees as an incentive.

Biden’s campaign responded to the release of the recording, claiming it was part of an ongoing effort by the Russians to hurt Biden.

They heavily edited this, and it’s still a nothingburger that landed with a thud,” Biden spokesman Andrew Bates told the Washington Post.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
22. People are dying by the thousands daily and THIS is what Republicans are doing?
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:27 PM
May 2020

SMH...

Heartless jerks. Every last one of them.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
25. Go to court then
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:45 PM
May 2020

use the same arguments the Trumpers used. Once the courts rule against those bogus excuses, go back to court and demand that they enforce the house subpoenas.

EarlG

(21,945 posts)
26. It's really weird watching them operate this strategy now
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

Clearly, they were planning to do this all along -- open an election-year investigation into all of Biden's alleged "dirty deeds." Obviously the point was not to uncover any actual dirty deeds, but, just as they did with Hillary and Benghazi, to churn up enough FUD to get people wondering if there was any "there" there.

This FUD strategy worked in 2016 (with an assist from Putin) because Trump was able to cause just enough doubt about Hillary to squeeze out a victory in a handful of swing states and win the electoral college while still losing the popular vote. Even then, he still only won by a razor-thin margin.

But running the same strategy this time around was inherently risky. For a number of reasons, Biden seems more difficult to smear than Hillary was. And Trump is no longer the untested outsider who implored people in 2016 to just give him a chance and see what he could do -- "what do you have to lose?"

Nevertheless, despite Trump's personal unpopularity, they were going to try it again -- this time, the key to repeating the strategy was the strong economy. Trump could pull off the FUD plan, provided that he could persuade just enough swing-state voters to think, "Well, Trump sure is a jerk, but there's something about Joe Biden I'm just not quite comfortable with, and hey, the economy is doing well, so I guess I'll give Trump one more chance."

But now, in the midst of his terrible handling of the pandemic, and the collapse of the economy, this strategy just looks plain bizarre.

"Sure, Trump seems indifferent to the deaths of 100,000 Americans, and yes, unemployment is going above 20%, and the debt is soaring, and people are losing their health insurance, and everybody is going bankrupt, and the Trump administration doesn't have any kind of plan to get us out of this, but OMG did you see the latest news about Blue Star Strategies work on behalf of Burisma Holdings?!?!?!"

I guess it's too late for them to come up with a plan B though, which is why they're still trying to go down this road.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
29. Subpoenas?
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

IGNORE them, just like every single republican has done. GO TO HELL. Ron Johnson, one of the group of gop members who spent last July 4th. "celebrating" America's birthday in Moscow?? Not a single one of them cares about the rules of law. How much has Moscow Mitch pocketed so far, doing business with a Russian oligarch?

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
31. Don't ignore the subpoenas
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:24 PM
May 2020

Respond openly as innocents do. Then publicize that Democrats don't hide from lawful subpoenas unlike Trump and the GOP.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
34. Well the US Supreme Court said the rule of law doesn't exist anymore, so this stunt by the fascists
Wed May 20, 2020, 06:39 PM
May 2020

can go pound sand.............let this go all the way back to supreme court and let the public see what kind of a double standard they have............since they helped create this shit show

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
38. So Hunter used his name like Ivanka uses hers to make money?
Thu May 21, 2020, 07:06 AM
May 2020

I'm shocked. Isn't that the Trump business ? Branding ?

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