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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:10 AM Sep 2012

Wild horses sold by US later ending up at slaughterhouses?

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Source: NBC News


Wild horses scour the ground for strands of hay during an adoption event put on by the Bureau of Land Management in Albuquerque, N.M., in 2009.

The Bureau of Land Management faced a crisis this spring. The agency protects and manages herds of wild horses that still roam the American West, rounding up thousands of them each year to keep populations stable.

But by March, government pens and pastures were nearly full. Efforts to find new storage space had fallen flat. So had most attempts to persuade members of the public to adopt horses. Without a way to relieve the pressure, the agency faced a gridlock that would invite lawsuits and potentially cause long-term damage to the range.

So the BLM did something it has done increasingly over the last few years. It turned to a little-known Colorado livestock hauler named Tom Davis who was willing to buy hundreds of horses at a time, sight unseen, for $10 a head.

The BLM has sold Davis at least 1,700 wild horses and burros since 2009, agency records show [1] -- 70 percent of the animals purchased through its sale program.

Like all buyers, Davis signs contracts promising that animals bought from the program will not be slaughtered and insists he finds them good homes.

But Davis is a longtime advocate of horse slaughter. By his own account, he has ducked Colorado law to move animals across state lines and will not say where they end up. He continues to buy wild horses for slaughter from Indian reservations, which are not protected by the same laws. And since 2010, he has been seeking investors for a slaughterhouse of his own.

"Hell, some of the finest meat you will ever eat is a fat yearling colt," he said. "What is wrong with taking all those BLM horses they got all fat and shiny and setting up a kill plant?"

Animal welfare advocates fear that horses bought by Davis are being sent to the killing floor.

Read more: http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/29/14153296-wild-horses-sold-by-us-later-ending-up-at-slaughterhouses?lite

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Wild horses sold by US later ending up at slaughterhouses? (Original Post) trailmonkee Sep 2012 OP
That is awful. nt Live and Learn Sep 2012 #1
Yes, it is awful! Watched a documentary on the horses and they are so majestic Hestia Sep 2012 #2
If he's breaking the terms of his contract, terminate the contract. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #3
+1... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #5
."Since when is anything in this country done legal?" He said talking about the USA... littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #4
They're an invasive species and there is no moral difference 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #6
Members of Congress from the most Ruby Red states spotbird Sep 2012 #9
Technically, cattle are an invasive species, too daleo Sep 2012 #10
Fron a completely non-logical position, I agree. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #11
I am a vegetarian and roody Sep 2012 #12
Trap, neuter, release? Trillo Sep 2012 #7
They're an invasive, damaging and expensive boondoggle. spotbird Sep 2012 #8
Locking - not Latest Breaking News muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #13

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
1. That is awful. nt
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:18 AM
Sep 2012
 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
2. Yes, it is awful! Watched a documentary on the horses and they are so majestic
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:29 AM
Sep 2012

and beautiful and wild. Why is that ranchers who don't pay jack get to put their cattle on OUR lands but the horses can't stay because they vie for the same food source? It seems that people love the west, as long as they can make a dime off it. This is so sad and sickening. I know some people who have adopted the horses and burros. Beautiful creatures.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
3. If he's breaking the terms of his contract, terminate the contract.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:40 AM
Sep 2012

If they don't want the horses that they can't take of slaughtered, find an alternative.

Otherwise, how are horses different than cows...or pigs...or sheep? As distasteful as some people who romanticize horses may find it, horses are meat.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. +1...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:59 AM
Sep 2012

extremely stupid meat, too.

littlemissmartypants

(22,540 posts)
4. ."Since when is anything in this country done legal?" He said talking about the USA...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:23 AM
Sep 2012
There have been no horse slaughterhouses in the U.S. since 2007, when Congress barred funding for U.S. Department of Agriculture horse meat inspectors. Since then horse slaughter has been outsourced. A 2011 report by the General Accountability Office [10] found the export of horses for slaughter to Mexico shot up 660 percent after the ban.
In Eagle Pass, as at other crossings, slaughter horses are checked by USDA veterinarians. A USDA spokeswoman refused to make veterinarians available for interviews, but confirmed that vets sometimes see wild horses bearing the BLM brand in slaughter export pens.
Brand documents leave almost 1,000 of Davis’s wild horses unaccounted for. That means they should still be within 75 miles of his residence -- if he has complied with state law.
Asked if this was the case, Davis first said the horses were still on 160 acres of land he leases from the state of Colorado. Then he said some had been shipped out of state without brand inspections, a misdemeanor punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $1,000 fine.
"Since when is anything in this country done legal?" Davis said in a phone interview.
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/29/14153296-wild-horses-sold-by-us-later-ending-up-at-slaughterhouses?lite

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
6. They're an invasive species and there is no moral difference
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

between eating a horse or a cow.

Banning horse slaughter here was a stupid decision made by emotional people who didn't understand the reality of the situation.

"oh they're soo cute and majestic" isn't the basis of sound policy.

spotbird

(7,583 posts)
9. Members of Congress from the most Ruby Red states
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:40 PM
Sep 2012

grease the hands of political their "Christian" benefactors by insuring there is an endless flow of horses to tend at taxpayer expense. These are the same people who would allow humans to suffer and die for want of adequate medical care.

It is scandalous, and a well kept secret.

It's nice to see that someone else knows the truth of it.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
10. Technically, cattle are an invasive species, too
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:09 PM
Sep 2012

Horses and cattle were both brought to the Americas by the Spanish. Horses were roaming the west and being ridden by natives in the 1700's. On that basis, they probably have a better claim on being non-invasive than cattle.

Bison are a different story.

As for eating horses versus cattle, I tend to agree that there isn't much of a moral distinction, at least one that can be argued on non-sentimental grounds. But I think there should be space for wild horses in the west.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
11. Fron a completely non-logical position, I agree.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:13 PM
Sep 2012

I have no problem with horse being a meat.

That said, I think it'd be good to have a place for wild horses in the west.

(to anybody that links to places in the west where wild horses are protected, I'm agreeing with you. I'm just stating that I think it's a good idea and I don't have enough personal investment in the issue to look it up)

roody

(10,849 posts)
12. I am a vegetarian and
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:38 PM
Sep 2012

I agree about the ethical part.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
7. Trap, neuter, release?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

Is it working with feral cats? Cats aren't horses, so probably there would be differences between how it might work, how horses colonize in the wild.

spotbird

(7,583 posts)
8. They're an invasive, damaging and expensive boondoggle.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:36 PM
Sep 2012

This guy should honor his contract, but destroying the animals is a humane and sensible solution. The current system is a tragic waste to taxpayers and the environment. A few ranchers do very, very well feeding from the government trough, a luxury the rest of the country can't afford as we cut care for needy humans.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
13. Locking - not Latest Breaking News
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

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