South Florida restaurants and casinos reopen as governor vows no more COVID-19 shutdowns

[TomCADem]

Source: USA Today

MIAMI (AP) — Some coronavirus restrictions started easing up Monday in parts of South Florida. In Miami-Dade County, restaurants were allowed to welcome back diners to indoor seating for the first time in almost two months, provided masks were worn and the establishments operated at 50% capacity.

In Palm Beach County, officials issued an order allowing tattoo and body piercing parlors, as well as tanning salons, to reopen starting Monday.

In Miami-Dade County, most indoor dining has been banned in the county since early July to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

“This does not mean this is over by a long shot,” Mayor Carlos Gimenez said in an online news conference. “While we’re heading in the right direction, we’re not out of the woods.”

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/09/01/coronavirus-florida-desantis-vows-never-lock-down-state-again/3454055001/

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Didn't DeSantis make this promise back in June, before shutting down when cases skyrocketted? Now, DiSantis has pushed for rapid reopening of schools with in-person classes, and we have yet to see what impact will that have over the next three weeks. Oh well, maybe it will just go away.

[DBoon]

1. Florida is #2 in cases per capita

right behind Louisiana.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

This is like pouring gasoline on a fire.

[IronLionZion]

18. They are still #1 in new cases and new deaths

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

[DBoon]

19. so they are pouring gasoline on an even bigger fire?

[IronLionZion]

25. Florida is going for "herd immunity" peak the curve

consequences be damned. So we may have fewer voters in Florida around November. And it could be disproportionately impacting people who believe this is a liberal media hoax.

[progree]

28. NY Times has them #24 highest state in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Scroll down to the "Cases and deaths by state and county" table.
Sort it by the "per 100,000" column that follows the "cases in last 7 days" column

Florida is the 24th highest state on this list (IOW just above the median)

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As for the trend:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

Daily new cases, 7 day moving average (not per capita, this is the raw count)
6/20: 2,892
6/21: 3,103
7/17: 11,870 The peak -- when converted to per capita, Florida was about the worst of all states
8/31: 2,949 (back to the June 20 level, which was hardly paradaisical)
Down 75% from the peak

So they've come a long way down, but are still at a way too high level: 96 per 100,000 population in the past 7 days, which comes to 14 per 100,000 population per day (from the first link above)

Now is not the time to throw all that progress away, and start right back up from the June 20 level, but oh well

Seems like too many states use a downward trend as an excuse to be stupid again, without considering what the actual level means in suffering, deaths, and likelihood of increasing again if restrictions are way loosened.

[sakabatou]

2. Great, more outbreaks -_-

[aquamarina]

3. It appears that certain governors are

trying to force a herd immunity strategy. There is no other explanation for this stupidity.

We are being led by idiots and at his rate, we will never get through this pandemic.

63 days until the election; 141 days until the inauguration.

[ananda]

14. Except that herd immunity doesn't apply to coronaviruses.

There is no such thing.

[aquamarina]

17. I know that.

You know that.
The medical community knows that.
Scientists know that.

I'm just saying, it looks like certain politicians are trying to force it - in the same manner that Trump said the virus will miraculously go away in April.

[ananda]

31. Agree.

I guess the death cult base will go along with it.

They go along with everything that brings harm
and death to people, even to themselves.

[aquamarina]

34. Of course they will.

Trump is their Jim Jones.

[DBoon]

21. The theory boils down to killing milions of vulnerable individuals

and hope everyone else comes out of it alive

Herd immunity through infection is mass murder

[IronLionZion]

27. They want to kill millions

because they are assuming it will kill mostly people they don't like

[Sherman A1]

4. Well, hope they all enjoy themselves while they can do so

I had no plans to visit Florida in the future, but this is certainly an incentive to never go there for any reason.

[Evolve Dammit]

5. Open the spigot Floriduh. With suppression of actual numbers, how will you ever know the toll?

Guess that's the idea. No numbers, no problem. Have a drink or ten. Cover your cough? Sneeze on your buddies?

[Vinca]

6. Plan on having fewer guests for Thanksgiving.

[soothsayer]

7. They've gone mad

[ananda]

15. True dat.

The Republican death cult is truly insane
and maniacally homicidal.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. They won't call the next time a "shutdown". The latest term nowadays is to do "a pause".

[Loge23]

10. Ducks of a feather...

Gov. DeSasterous brought in faux Covid expert and failed MD Scott Atlas to shore up his fantasy of a completely open Florida.
Atlas, on cue, delivered the official approval of the idiot IPOTUS to an eager-to-please DeSasterous.
Don't like the real numbers? Fire the tracker.
Don't like the advice of proven, medical experts trained in epidemiology? Bring in a quack - Scott Atlas.
(deleted the original due to a mistaken duplication)

[Baclava]

11. Moo? Go Herd! Moo moo moo, take one for the home herd! Moooo, u go, atta baby

[DBoon]

24. I think they have this type of herd in mind

Note: Lemmings don't really do this

[Thekaspervote]

12. I really hope that it impacts him personally!!

[Aviation Pro]

13. Cases tripled today, fatalities hit 190

Tell me how Florida has this under control.

DeathSentence lives in a fucking fantasy world.

[obamanut2012]

42. They didn't triple, that was a backlog of Quest test results

[RhodeIslandOne]

16. PREPARE TO DIE!!!!

The Trump Death Cult rolls on.

[Bengus81]

20. Atta boy DeSantis, keeping tourists away must be your mission in life right now.........

[Initech]

23. Yeah before this I was planning to visit my relatives in St. Petersburg this year.

But now they hardly leave the house (if ever), and I don't know when / if I am going back to Florida anytime soon.

[Initech]

22. Florida's response to COVID explained perfectly here:

[PatSeg]

26. Oh well Florida, it was nice knowing ya!

[yaesu]

29. governor vows no more COVID-19 shutdowns, well gov, its all up to covid, not you. nt

[Cetacea]

30. A very evil way to win a swing state

The three counties that are the highest in covid cases are BLUE, and seniors are leaving the Trump camp. Desantis won by only a few thousand votes (if he did in fact win).
And the largest Casinos are in those counties (Hard Rock, etc)

[Roy Rolling]

32. New State Slogan

Florida—the Darwin State

[icymist]

33. Did somebody say 'Herd Immunity'?

There's a new quack in the White House advising Trump on COVID-19, arguing for 'herd immunity'

There's a new doctor on the White House pandemic team, one who is telling Donald Trump what he wants to hear. The neuroradiologist, Scott Atlas, comes from Stanford's conservative Hoover Institute and caught Trump's eye during his appearances on Fox News, where he promoted "herd immunity" as a strategy to combat the coronavirus pandemic. Five sources close to the administration and Trump's thinking tell The Washington Post that Atlas has influenced administration policy on testing and on reopening schools.

Why is a doctor who does not have a background in infectious diseases or epidemiology on the team? He's telling Trump what he wants to hear, reportedly calling himself the "anti-Dr. Fauci," contrasting himself with the nation's leading infectious disease specialist, the one Trump doesn't want to hear from. Atlas—who, again, is not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist—subscribes to the theory that young, healthy people don't die from coronavirus and that it’s only people in nursing homes and other vulnerable populations who need protection from it. Everyone else needs to catch it and build resistance to it: herd immunity. Soumya Swaminathan, the World Health Organization’s chief scientist, calculates that 65 to 70% of the population would need to be infected for herd immunity to be achieved. Reaching 65% infection in the U.S. would mean 2.13 million deaths if the virus has a 1% fatality rate, the Post calculates. So, yes, Atlas is a full-fledged member of the death cult and that is why Trump brought him on the team.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/31/1973790/-There-s-a-new-quack-in-the-White-House-advising-Trump-on-COVID-19-arguing-for-herd-immunity

Link to tweet

Bandy X Lee, MD, MDiv
@BandyXLee1
·
Sep 1, 2020
You asked about this. It means: “you’re going to die, you’re all going to die under me (not after me).”

We need to listen to what he is saying, not what we assume, because he has a mindset that is unimaginable to most of us and will project it matter-of-factly onto others.

Jason Campbell
@JasonSCampbell
Donald Trump: "At some point I will not be president. Hopefully that will be in five years from now. But I will not be president. And they're going to die, they're all going to die"


Bandy X Lee, MD, MDiv
@BandyXLee1
·
7h
And then CONSULT THE EXPERTS. There are specialists of his disposition even among mental health experts. Do not fall into to the trap of believing any opinion is as good as expert opinion; intelligent people look for the best experts, ESPECIALLY when we have no room to gamble.

[keithbvadu2]

35. If it is safe:

[johnnyfins]

36. Funny thing is

people have already been through one shutdown. If the virus gets bad again, the PEOPLE will decide. They just won't go out. Some idiots will, but everyone isn't that stupid. And you cn't make them go to a retsaurant, bar or casino.

[Bengus81]

37. After our Dem Gov in Kansas took a hard stance on covid Republicans BLEW it....

Laura Kelly did a great job and had nothing but PUKES bitching at her. A big day in Kansas when CV first broke out was 250-300, many days it was much less. Later she introduced a four phase plan for slowly re-opening. Numbers had to be hit to move to the next phase.

Nut job Republicans took her all the way to the State Supreme Court so people could pack the mega churches on Easter. They won but in Wichita even Republicans kept them closed. But...later on they said screw it and opened up everything to everybody ignoring her Librul plan.

Now...skyrocketing cases,we've had several 1200+ days--in fact yesterday was another one of those. But...the idiot Republicans that caused the mayhem and death will of course get re-elected.

[progree]

41. Kansas - yes, is setting all-time-highs in daily new cases (7 day moving avgs) just about every day

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/kansas-coronavirus-cases.html

What's more, it's 7th highest state per capita in daily new cases, 7 day average.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Go to: "Cases and deaths by state and county"

Sort by the "per 100,000" column that follows the "Cases in the last 7 days" column.

Surprise (about zero talk about this) : #1-Iowa, #2-North Dakota, #3-South Dakota

[Warpy]

38. De Satan seems incapable of learning

that doing the same thing over and over again won't lead to a different result no matter how many times he tries it.

Either that or he's bought into Republican eugenics and the theory that the disease will kill us off while leaving the plutocrats healthy.

[marie999]

39. Are they allowed to take the mask off when the eat?

[Drome]

40. The Usual Idiots

Trump is Keyser Soze, natch. Ron De Santis is Kevin Pollak's character. You might disagree, as it's been many a year since I've seen the film.