First covid-19 death linked to Sturgis Motorcycle Rally reported in Minnesota
Source: Washington Post
A Minnesota biker who attended the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally has died of covid-19 - the first fatality from the virus traced to the 10-day event that drew more than 400,000 to South Dakota.
The man was in his 60s, had underlying conditions and was hospitalized in intensive care for several weeks after returning from the rally, said Kris Ehresmann, infectious-disease director at the Minnesota Department of Health. The case is among at least 260 cases in 11 states tied directly to the event, according to a survey of health departments by The Washington Post.
Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rallygoers to testing and the limited contact tracing in some states. As a result, the true scope of infections stemming from the event that ran from Aug. 7 to Aug. 16 is unlikely to ever be known. Public health officials had long expressed concern over the decision to move forward with the annual event, believed to be the largest held anywhere in the U.S. since the pandemic shelved most large-scale gatherings.
Now, just over two weeks after the conclusion of the rally, the Midwest and the Dakotas in particular are seeing a spike in coronavirus cases even as infections decline or plateau in the rest of the country. Besides the fallout from Sturgis, Ehresmann and other health officials attribute much of the increase in the Midwest to people not following public health guidelines, not wearing masks and attending social gatherings such as weddings and funerals.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/02/sturgis-rally-death-coronavirus/
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,545 posts)win stupid prizes!
dchill
(38,444 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)this was a risk he was willing to take and it was worth it to him.
This is who they are. We just need to figure out how to keep them from taking us down with them.
PatSeg
(47,277 posts)until they DO get it and end up in the ICU. Its easy to show great bravado about hypothetical situations. I hope he didn't make anyone else sick, but odds are that he probably did.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)Clearly, they are responding to bad information. What was in his brain that he couldn't see the risks? We'll never know, but I don't rejoice over these deaths. They make me really sad.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)"If I die, I die". He'll spew that RW Trump tough guy bullshit right up to the time his family loses someone because of HIM.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Bravado is just an excuse to behave irresponsibly.
durablend
(7,455 posts)Don't you feel like you've been stuck?
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Seriously, where I was raised, a nation where there was a lot of poverty and an expectation of self-control and discipline IN ORDER TO SURVIVE FROM BASIC THIRD WORLD PROBLEMS, they would have given him very little sympathy. They would have blamed it on him for being reckless with his survival skills.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)Hope you enjoy the show, folks.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,728 posts)I am in Olmsted County where the Mayo clinic 3 miles from my house is. They have been excellent in reporting cases in and around the state.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Lyon County. Huge Wedding in Ghent two weeks ago,now there is a major out break in Marshall and Redwood falls.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,728 posts)Just an hour or so from Sioux Falls.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Sturgis related. Know of the Family that had this Wedding. In that area,10-15 in a family is very common and when a wedding or Funeral happens,you would find upward of 200 + relatives in attendance. Understand the spreaders came from Marshall and were employed by the same Company. As a result,that company went into shut down mode last week because of call outs related to this Wedding.
Again,who knows where the source came from originally,some of the workers at that Marshall Plant commute from Sodak border area.
Celerity
(43,113 posts)for a few urgent reasons. Same for most of the EU. Americans not welcome, and they have Rump to thank. It's a shame, as it hurts our tourism here, and would give many Americans a break from MAGAt Madness.
Stay safe WR.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)fifteen miles northwest of Marshall. Jokingly called the Belgium Capital of Minnesota.
Celerity
(43,113 posts)370 people, so not surprised I was not in the know.
I will stick to Belgium, lolol. We adore Antwerp. Some of our best friends are from there. A horrid tragedy the whole country has had with COVID-19.
😢
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)named after their European points of Immigration.
Celerity
(43,113 posts)progree
(10,893 posts)capita
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/minnesota-coronavirus-cases.html
Minnesota daily new cases, 7 day moving average (not per capita, this is the raw count)
8/17: 604
9/1: 807
+34% in 15 days
========================================================
Daily new cases, PER 100,000, 7 day moving average,
#1 Iowa - another close neighbor of SoDak
#2 South Dakota
#3 North Dakota
...
#23 Minnesota
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
Scroll down to the "Cases and deaths by state and county" table.
Sort it by the "per 100,000" column that follows the "cases in last 7 days" column
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,601 posts)dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)No one in that crowd wearing a mask.
And the portapotties...I havent been anywhere in so long, I forgot all about those. Ewww.
Looks like there will be many cases coming from Sturgis.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)This event ended 17 days ago. He was in ICU for several weeks?
Even if he was there for 3 days at the start (Aug 7), he came home, incubation period, got sick on the 12th or 13th, went into ICU a day or 2 later. That's 19 days tops. That's not several weeks.
Either this is sloppy writing, or the guy was never actually there. Unless he transferred from an ICU in MN to one in Sturgis, then got transferred back. That is unlikely.
I'm going with sloppy writing.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)he could have already been "positive" BEFORE he even went and it only manifested while there and he may have left and went right into the hospital. I.e., he could have already been infected a week or more before even going there.
That was the whole danger of having an event like that. You had the risk of a number of attendees who may have already been infected and were either asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, mildly symptomatic (think it was "just a cold" ), or very symptomatic but didn't give a damn. Because. Sturgis. Coronavirus-is-a-hoax.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,075 posts)... two days ago my head felt like total junk and I was worried enough that I may have caught CV-45 that my blood pressure went up, head pounding. I used some Costco® AllerFlo nasal spray and it went away in a couple of hours. No doubt the winds brought some ragweed pollen my way. That is the only thing that hits me and members of my family that hard.
Just saying that with many people, if you don't think you are sick, you minimize the symptoms and carry on until it lasts a couple days and then see the doctor.
PS: I am not a MD nor do I play one on TV. Just my own experiences and observations.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)Although given what is going on with a raging pandemic (and about to go into flu season), I think some tend to consider other "possibilities", which is why there is an oft-updated checklist of possible symptoms, some of which don't comport to being due to a run-of-the-mill "cold" or even an allergy.
The bigger issue with this virus is that people get all kinds of combinations and permutations of symptoms when they DO actually have symptoms. Some have a fever but others don't. Some have gastrointestinal problems, others don't. Apparently a strong initial indicator is a "loss of taste" (although even that could be due to a severe sinus blockage and "taste" usually relies on the "smell" ). Another biggy seems to be the tiredness and ache - and to a level that seems to be worse than what a full-blown flu might incur. The initial "common" symptom was apparently shortness of breath.
So it is just a mess.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,075 posts)... eom.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)I agree with everything you wrote, but the article was still poorly written. In fact, another reply to my post says they changed it!
Oooooops!
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)including from Minnesota - e.g.,
Minnesota man is believed to be the first death due to infection at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
By Jeremy Olson Star Tribune
September 2, 2020 12:06pm
A participant in last months Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota is among the 1,830 people in Minnesota who have died of COVID-19, the Minnesota Department of Health reported Wednesday.
The rider was a man in his 60s with underlying health conditions who was hospitalized and placed in intensive care following his infection with the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
Minnesota health officials have identified at least 49 participants in the Sturgis event who have tested positive for the infection. Several other states have reported infections among Sturgis participants as well.
https://www.startribune.com/sturgis-rider-from-minnesota-dies-of-covid-19/572296082/
What is not known is when he actually "left" the event and was hospitalized nor do they say when he originally arrived there because apparently SD had reported a big pile of "early arrivals" there too. So it's entirely possible that he left early on (it "officially" ran 8/7/20 - 8/16/20), returned home "ill", entered the hospital with severe breathing difficulty, and was put into intensive care immediately (particularly if he had "underlying conditions" ), and remained until he passed away - which could have been several "weeks".
You can't make the assumption that he stayed until the end, came home, then went into the hospital and thus couldn't have been in ICU for "several weeks".
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)I used the case where he got there the first day and left on the 3rd.
Still under 3 weeks.
Three is not several.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)(yes I am gonna mess with you... IMHO if they had said "a couple weeks", people could legitimately argue that "a couple" = "2 weeks".
But "several weeks" could be anywhere from (more than one obviously) "2 weeks" up to some "low" number of weeks like 3 weeks! Because at "4 weeks" they could say "a month".
We just don't know because no one really knows (except for his family/friends/the hospital & the local/state health departments) when he got there and how long he stayed before returning to Minnesota.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)F&W
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)..that Bum & I were kidding around with each other.
Right?
Midnight Writer
(21,717 posts)IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)it now says:
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)I wonder if it was in the print version the original way. No delete and edit there.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)I would hope their print version has higher standards since they have deadlines.
The online versions of most news outlets have been getting sloppy for years since they figure they can always correct it quickly.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)Not available unless I drive to the big library, 25 miles north.
My little library only has Chicago & south suburban papers.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)and since this story came out this afternoon as a breaking news (well after whatever print edition cutoff time they probably have), it's not in today's printed paper (just scanned through it and I even tried a search on on the term "sturgis" ). Would need to check tomorrow to see if they run it in that issue.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)Let me know if copy editors did a different job on the piece.
I get that e version from the Chicago Trib, but have never even looked at it.
To be honest, I got a ridiculous deal on the subscription.
They offered 2 months for a buck.
I tried to sign on, but the thing stuck on "submit". I gave up after 2 tries.
Email says, " You forgot something". Then they offer 3 months for a buck.
Try again. Same thing.
Send email to circulation telling them what happened.
The apologize and offer me 12 month for 2 bucks.
Because the link took me to a different form & they gave me a promo code, the thing didn't hang up on Submit.
So I got a year's subscription for $2!
This happened in June, so I've got nearly 10 months left!
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)Their online "live" site updates pretty much 24/7 but the print edition obviously not so much and it tends to have way less than what they put online. I know you remember the days of the "morning" and "evening" editions of papers. That has gone the way of the dodo.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)First is how the article appears as a column on the page (appears on pg. 7 taking up a space that is 2/3rds of a page wide and a ballpark of 3/5 of a page long) and the second is a zoom of it. Looks like they used the last revised content for print.
Initech
(100,040 posts)LittleGirl
(8,279 posts)and how many end up as long haulers that suffer without end?
Elect a Clown, Get a Circus.
for those that die because of their entitlement attitude.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)AZ8theist
(5,409 posts)More on the way!!
suegeo
(2,571 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,075 posts)... anyone that has visited the Black Hills knows that tourist trap attractions are a dime a dozen out there. There is a whole segment of the SD population that relies on tourism and hunting to get them through the year.
And the state sales tax, every county and municipality relies on it as they add their own 1 to 6% depending on local, "initiatives".
Celerity
(43,113 posts)White Power Cornfed Brunette Barbie, Kim Reynolds, are having a contest to see which one can virtually tug job Trumpy the best without (one would hope!) actually physically petting his orange mushroom. Ernst is in the mix too. The true meaning of Mini-Strokers.
ashredux
(2,599 posts)That was a Super Super Spreader Event
catbyte
(34,336 posts)I just wonder how many people he put at risk.
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)I used known infection rates and morbidity rates and came out with 6,800 of the actual people who attended Sturgis dying of COVID-19.
Not that I want that. I am sorry for this guy and his family and the rest of the people he infected, because you know he did.
The irony is he probably flies one of those yellow Gadsden 'Don't Tread on Me' flags. Because when he exercised his 'right' to attend Sturgis, not social distance and not wear a mask, he actually treaded on the rights of those around him.
I think we've been 'rugged individuals' for so long that sometimes we forget that we also need to look out for each other.
Delphinus
(11,825 posts)That is a lot of folks dying from that event. Will you ever know if those numbers are correct?
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)I never wish death on people, but some bring it upon themselves and we cannot stop them.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)dalton99a
(81,404 posts)patphil
(6,150 posts)would rather "suffer in silence" than admit they caught the virus there.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)LittleWoman
(259 posts)When examining the covid19 cases resulting from the Sturgis Rally you need to consider not only the cases of the rally attendees and their families, etc when they returned to their home states, but you must also consider who they might have infected on their way home. If they rode their bikes they probably had to stop for gas and food and maybe hotel accommodations along the way depending on how far they had to go. I expect it is likely that there will be an increase in cases in these sorts of travel stops along the main routes to Sturgis, for example along I-90. These cases might not come to mind when considering the Sturgis Rally but they are part of the spread. In many ways this event might be considered the super spreader event from Hell.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)and that's more important to some people. Which sucks pretty bad for anyone he infected.
He was probably infected before going to Sturgis. You never how many such people you would encounter in situations like this. I would assume that I and everyone else I encounter has COVID, and do what I can to avoid spreading it to anyone else.
progree
(10,893 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)
Daily new cases, PER 100,000, 7 day moving average,
#1 Iowa - another close neighbor of SoDak
#2 South Dakota
#3 North Dakota
...
#23 Minnesota
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
Scroll down to the "Cases and deaths by state and county" table.
Sort it by the "per 100,000" column that follows the "cases in last 7 days" column
========================================================
So far, neighbor Minnesota is not in too bad a shape (around the median in new cases per capita) but it's rising, setting daily new all-time highs
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/minnesota-coronavirus-cases.html
Minnesota daily new cases, 7 day moving average (not per capita, this is the raw count)
8/17: 604
9/1: 807
+34% in 15 days
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)That is a REALLY short timeline from infection to death.
The public health officials might want to send his picture to Harley shops, post it on biker websites etc..."If you were within six feet of this man at Sturgis, get your ass to the doctor TODAY and get tested."
Event was 10 days, he fell ill after returning from the rally, was hospitalized for couple of weeks and then died.
How could you possibly conclude from that he didn't contract the virus at Sturgis?
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)I expect some may have chosen to go for a few days to meet up with friends and attend concerts by certain bands and then left, etc. I believe the entire event "officially" went on from 8/7 - 8/16 and apparently a number of people arrived "early" and probably left "early" (or could have stayed the entire time)... or came "later" and left "later" (to maybe do some touring around the area with less crowds around).
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)To see just how long he was there and try and do the math. Reading an article before the event locals say that many will clear out by the next Wed so they spend around five days there.
Between this clown and the other 48 or so there could be hundreds and hundreds infected and will needlessly suffer or die and never attended an event that should have been canceled.
Crazy
(5 posts)I personally don't believe anyone in south Dakota is even doing contract tracing and if they are others are working overtime to make sure all data and statistics released by the regime are as misleading as possible. Obviously the people are not understanding what's happening for some reason.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)and apparently they are having huge issues with contact-tracing among attendees (and it's obvious why there would be problems).
Hell here in the Philly area just a few weeks ago, our tracers reported only about a 65% "successful contact" rate, with almost 1/3rd of them having either claimed to have had "no contact" with anyone or refused to give names of anyone they did have contact with.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)There are a lot of pics and videos at Sturgis. Some of them might show up seeing how they loved to flaunt not wearing masks and being right next to each other.
BumRushDaShow
(128,494 posts)He was either asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic when he went there and may have left early when symptoms were getting worse.
I think any media and/or further details from either state (SD or MN) about his case, would run into HIPAA issues.
Johnny2X2X
(18,973 posts)Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)Crazy
(5 posts)Sent my two cents to local news...
Great job Kristi and Don in generating a 6% increase in tax revenue for a grand total of $1.3 million by holding the Sturgis rally over citizen objections and ignoring common sense pandemic prevention methods like wearing a paper mask and keeping social distance. I know my elderly aunt who died nearby of covid a few days ago is ecstatic there is some benefit to the good people of South Dakota and organizers; Party on patriots!
God only knows how many senseless deaths occurred and I doubt if anyone including state health department is even trying to figure it out. I'm sure the pain and suffering of the survivors was worth it too. I'm constantly amazed at the intellectual prowess of my fellow South Dakota natives!
moreland01
(736 posts)I saw some of the bikers being interviewed and they all said that they were willing to take the risks. #Covidiots
I don't feel sorry for them at all.
riversedge
(70,087 posts)............
Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rallygoers to testing and the limited contact tracing in some states. As a result, the true scope of infections stemming from the event that ran from Aug. 7 to Aug. 16 is unlikely to ever be known.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)of time @ home, this is such an undermining & I don't give a sh** attitude for you, myself or anyone else! This is our LIVES we're talking about! Looks like we will be in for a long & tragic fall & winter! Medical care may become a scarcity & luxury with these unintelligent uninformed ignoramuses roaming amongst us!
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)Let's see how that works out. Any of those rich RW fucks will probably claim they were at Sturgis to keep the heat off of Trump.