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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:19 PM Sep 2020

Biden extends lead over Trump to double digits in post-convention poll

Source: The Hill

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden extended his lead over President Trump nationally to double digits, according to a new poll released after the two major party conventions concluded.

Biden is leading Trump by 11 points, with Biden at 51 percent support among registered voters compared to Trump’s 40 percent, according to an Economist/YouGov poll released Wednesday.

Biden’s lead over Trump jumped 2 points from a similar poll released last week, when the Democrat held a 9 point lead over Trump. Biden’s support ticked up one point since last week, while Trump’s dipped one point, based on the polls.

The most recent poll found 4 percent said they are not sure who they would vote for, 2 percent of registered voters said they would vote for another candidate, and 2 percent said they would not vote, according to the most recent poll.

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president?gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhb36BRCfARIsAKcXh6G-HkuanmoeXyShhc0M6FZsV-bVyxaEp8GA4aJJ_2jM8fzkF6vEELIaApm9EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514832-biden-extends-lead-over-trump-to-double-digits-in-post-convention-poll

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Biden extends lead over Trump to double digits in post-convention poll (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
Ole Steve Cornacky M$NBC,,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2020 #1
Yawn... brooklynite Sep 2020 #3
The RCP battlegrounds breakdown has Biden at +2.5 Calista241 Sep 2020 #4
It is doubtful to me that he would be ahead by 7-10 points jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #7
Haven't looked at RCP lately, if that figures in Rasmussen...it explains a lot Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #8
Kornacki, from what I'm seeing, is actually speaking some truth and doing a theophilus Sep 2020 #12
That consistent 50-51 percent jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #2
Right...one main difference, HRC never did get above 50% Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #5
Exactly jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #6
I love the closing weeks of an election bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #9
Is that why the Electoral College was set up by the Founding Fathers? brooklynite Sep 2020 #11
Interesting angle, though they didn't foresee flatout democracy bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #14
I predict a 3rd temper tantrum today when the orange anus sees this Norbert Sep 2020 #10
I'm not sure how much faith to put into polls this cycle. Calista241 Sep 2020 #13
After 2016, I am putting 0% faith in the polls. Initech Sep 2020 #15
Regardless.... paleotn Sep 2020 #16

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
4. The RCP battlegrounds breakdown has Biden at +2.5
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:42 PM
Sep 2020

If that number is that low on November 1, we're probably going to lose. Biden needs to get on it and improve these numbers ASAP.

jorgevlorgan

(8,289 posts)
7. It is doubtful to me that he would be ahead by 7-10 points
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

And above 50%, and still lose the election. But hell it was doubtful to me that undecideds and 3rd parties would break 80-20 in favor of trump in key states so... Yeah

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
8. Haven't looked at RCP lately, if that figures in Rasmussen...it explains a lot
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:50 PM
Sep 2020

The Economist poll aggregator does not include Rasmussen, we all know their leanings, or Emerson due to poor polling methodology
https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
12. Kornacki, from what I'm seeing, is actually speaking some truth and doing a
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:07 PM
Sep 2020

fairly good job. I am not going to watch anybody, ANYBODY, that goes on about the "race tightening" very much. Unless, they then explain that Biden is still way out in front. The tightening Kornacki explained in a segment today was by a .0something amount. Sure MSNBC wants a horse race. At the top. Fuck that shit. Only by "pretending" it is close can Putin and the Pubs steal it and get away with it. Again.

Peace!

jorgevlorgan

(8,289 posts)
2. That consistent 50-51 percent
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:31 PM
Sep 2020

Shows solid support. Even the close polls show him at that level or close. Remember Hillary won the percentage of support that polls showed her at in each state. But third part and undecideds went a far different direction than expected. His 50-51 percents support means that he will likely fall at least in that range after the votes are counted.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
9. I love the closing weeks of an election
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:51 PM
Sep 2020

Each campaign fighting to capture unengaged voters so they can decide the election.

We were supposed to have an enlightened, informed citizenry.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
11. Is that why the Electoral College was set up by the Founding Fathers?
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020

Perhaps its because I started out in the trenches as a Ward Committeeman in Philadelphia, but I've never overestimated the political engagement of the average voter.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
14. Interesting angle, though they didn't foresee flatout democracy
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:43 PM
Sep 2020

They filtered out, of course, women, blacks, and men without property from voting.

And allowed state legislatures to select Senators, rather than the masses voting, which was changed about ... 1912?

And setup the Electoral College as a final check on national office, once removed from vote pluralities.

And allowed Congress to decide elections with no clear winner.

I took one course in Am Political Thought, a rarity, even today, since Pol Thought is usually taught pre and post Enlightement basically.
But Founders feared factions, mob (the masses) rule, bad decisions made by emotions of voters. But they also disliked parties, and didn't see the Electoral College as dominated by parties. Been kind of long since I thought about it, but I got the idea electors were supposed to be elders, elder statesmen, retired judges, a kind of reserve against election results. Not political party rubber stamps. They muffed on that one.

And I don't recall any argument that the genuine undecideds are not very well informed. But to me it's an Achilles heel that explains 2016.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
13. I'm not sure how much faith to put into polls this cycle.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:10 PM
Sep 2020

Trumpers have been called racist for voting for Trump since 2016, and I don't see how accurate polling data will be given that people don't want to be accused of being racist.

I have family members whom I KNOW are going to vote for Trump. Thankfully they're all in Georgia, which won't really have the chance to sway the election. But I also know that they wouldn't tell a soul who's not a member of their family which way they're going to vote.

It's like the Dave Chappelle skit from years ago. A white guy will talk about stuff that's super personal, like sex, and not care who hears about it. But once Dave asked him who he was going to vote for, the guy was like "What's with all the personal questions?"

I'm hoping and praying Biden wins, and wins easily. But I have a sneaking suspicion we're all gonna be super pissed off.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
15. After 2016, I am putting 0% faith in the polls.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:07 PM
Sep 2020

I won't believe anything until it's actually election night, and even then I will be scared as hell.

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