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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,297 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:28 PM Sep 2020

Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system

Source: NBC News

2020 ELECTION

Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system
The president said it would be a way to check if anti-fraud efforts are "as good as they say."

Sept. 2, 2020, 6:28 PM EDT / Updated Sept. 2, 2020, 6:52 PM EDT
By Lauren Egan and Pete Williams

WASHINGTON -- President Donald Trump suggested that people in North Carolina should vote twice in the November election, once by mail and once in person, escalating his attempts to cast confusion and doubt on the validity of the results.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote," Trump said when asked whether he has confidence in the mail-in system in the battleground state. ... "If it's as good as they say it is then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do," he said.

It is illegal to vote more than once in an election.

{snip}

When asked about Trump's comments during an interview later Wednesday with CNN, Attorney General William Barr ... said he was unaware of the specific laws in North Carolina and did not respond directly to questions about Trump's earlier comments.

Trump made similar claims about mail-in ballots during his 2016 campaign, essentially encouraging his supporters to commit voter fraud. ... At a rally in Colorado just days before he was elected, Trump told supporters to obtain new ballots because "do you think those (mail-in) ballots are properly counted?"

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-encourages-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-test-mail-system-n1239140



Hat tip, Joe.My.God.

Trump Tells North Carolina Supporters To Vote Twice
September 2, 2020

https://www.joemygod.com/2020/09/trump-tells-north-carolina-supporters-to-vote-twice/

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Also, there's a thread in GD.

Trump just told his supporters to commit voter fraud and vote twice in November.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214013221

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Actually, two threads in GD.

Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214013794

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JoeMyGod Retweeted

https://twitter.com/JoeMyGod

"I don't know what the law in the particular state says" -- Wolf Blitzer has to explain to the Attorney General of the United States that it's actually illegal to vote twice


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Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 OP
Lmao vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #1
That's encouraging voter fraud. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2020 #2
Imagine that. One who's a fraud encouraging fraud! Illumination Sep 2020 #13
Is there ANYTHING AC_Mem Sep 2020 #27
he's doing this on purpose to create fraud so he can try and throw the election out Takket Sep 2020 #3
Can he even do that? vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #6
no, but he's going to try......... Takket Sep 2020 #14
Here's Pendejo45 on election night ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #7
And please wrap your ballot around a soup can. paleotn Sep 2020 #4
sure and his magats will end up in jail.nt. drray23 Sep 2020 #5
he wants to jam-up the jails so... Lock him up. Sep 2020 #30
Nothing but an attempt to clog up the voting in person system so others can't vote /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #8
Vote early, vote often! WVreaper Sep 2020 #9
Theoretically, the second vote wouldn't be counted by a functional system. Hoyt Sep 2020 #10
I think it's 5 years in a federal prison FakeNoose Sep 2020 #18
Vote twice and you, too, can have a room in the Trump wing of the prison near you. Vinca Sep 2020 #11
That did happen in NC rockfordfile Sep 2020 #12
I guess the "Law & Order" thingy kicks in after procon Sep 2020 #15
THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO SPOIL THE ELECTION!!!! Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #16
The only people dumb enough to try crimycarny Sep 2020 #17
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 #19
Hope Rebl2 Sep 2020 #20
Yeah, it's a fraud to encourage fraud, but... Lock him up. Sep 2020 #31
I don't know what's worse EndlessWire Sep 2020 #21
Barr: I don't...I just don't know if you can vote twice in that state. Wolf: You can't vote twice FailureToCommunicate Sep 2020 #24
love it, trump advocating committing voter fraud and I hope beachbumbob Sep 2020 #22
so how does launching this clearly illegal conspiracy no go directly to RICO? bringthePaine Sep 2020 #23
I hope only GOP'ers AC_Mem Sep 2020 #25
I don't know if it's more disturbing to have a president encourage voter fraud... patphil Sep 2020 #26
Right. Break the law and take the consequences. Don't worry. It'll work out all right (for me). Nitram Sep 2020 #28
Why is CRK7376 Sep 2020 #29
Should not be possible PuppyBismark Sep 2020 #32
Of course they do. In our county the voter books are now electronic. yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #33
From my understanding you would be correct. mwooldri Sep 2020 #34
IS THIS NOT A FELONY? vapor2 Sep 2020 #35

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
27. Is there ANYTHING
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 09:06 PM
Sep 2020

that will make our government STOP this madness? What does he have to do, actually follow through on his 5th avenue statement to show that he can literally get away with anything and not be held accountable?

My BP has been so high today that I literally have palpitations over the whole social security deduction mess he is creating (they are MAKING me take the tax deferral that is stealing from my retirement/social security - absolutely no option to opt out), and just seeing him do whatever the f he wants to do, no matter how unlawful or idiotic - it just has not been a good day. I try not to let this affect me physically but on days like today I really just hate him and his satanic lapdogs so much that I worry for my own soul. I don't hate, at least I never did and I have had some damn good reasons in my life to do so, but I literally hate them may the Creator forgive me.

November 3 cannot get here fast enough.

Annette
VOTE - once.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
7. Here's Pendejo45 on election night ...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:32 PM
Sep 2020

"I had double the votes in NC than registered voters, this is election fraud.
No wait!!! I win. No election fraud at all. That's just fake news."

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
4. And please wrap your ballot around a soup can.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:31 PM
Sep 2020

So there will be less cans available to shadowy dark guys who aren't strong enough to throw bricks and rocks.

Lock him up.

(6,918 posts)
30. he wants to jam-up the jails so...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 12:20 AM
Sep 2020

... when his turn comes up, there won't be any space left for his oRange a$$ to get incarcerated.

But seriously, at what time does that obvious mob bo$$ gets stopped in his obviously endless crime spree?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Theoretically, the second vote wouldn't be counted by a functional system.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:39 PM
Sep 2020

Other than that, who knows what that buffoon is suggesting?

Lock him up.

(6,918 posts)
31. Yeah, it's a fraud to encourage fraud, but...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 12:28 AM
Sep 2020

... it looks like nobody can arrest the fRaud$ter who defrauded a children's Charity and thousands of gullible 'University' students, or someone tell us where the home of the Brave--who will just go in and handcuff the oRange mob bo$$--is?

EndlessWire

(6,457 posts)
21. I don't know what's worse
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:25 PM
Sep 2020

What Trump said, or what Barr said. Everyone on the planet knows you can't vote twice in an election.

IS BARR THAT STUPID???

#StupidBarr

Look, who's got the list? Let's just put his name under Trump's for aiding and abetting election fraud.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
24. Barr: I don't...I just don't know if you can vote twice in that state. Wolf: You can't vote twice
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:42 PM
Sep 2020

Barr: Well,

Wolf: You're the Attorney General of the U.S.

Barr: Well, um...

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
22. love it, trump advocating committing voter fraud and I hope
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:25 PM
Sep 2020

all his supporters do this as they will be subject to arrest, fines and jail time and I HOPE both ballots are tossed


be great, trump and gop recieved ZERO votes in NC with mail in ballots

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
25. I hope only GOP'ers
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:59 PM
Sep 2020

are stupid enough to listen to him and as usual - get caught. Nobody should be so ignorant that they think it would be okay to vote twice - but then again we are talking about the Archie Bunkers...

patphil

(6,150 posts)
26. I don't know if it's more disturbing to have a president encourage voter fraud...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 09:04 PM
Sep 2020

or have an attorney general say he doesn't know what the voting law is in North Carolina.

Hey Donnie, you're advocating criminal action!
Hey Billy, even Wolf Blitzer knows it's illegal to vote twice!

What a pair of dildos these guys are.
Note: a dildo is a mindless fucker.

CRK7376

(2,198 posts)
29. Why is
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:07 PM
Sep 2020

President Asshole telling me and my family and the rest of the residents of my state to break the law? Oh yeah, he is trying to cheat his way back into the WH again. Aint going to happen JACKASS!!! I wonder if he would pay our legal fees like how he said he would pay those folks hired to rough up protesters at his first run for pres...What a disgusting criminal he is. I hope he gets swamped and spends the rest of his miserable life fighting off all the lawsuits and criminal cases that he will be charged with on January 21st next year.

PuppyBismark

(594 posts)
32. Should not be possible
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 01:05 AM
Sep 2020

I was an election location supervisor in Ohio just a few years ago. It is not possible as there are very good records kept. Our voter books have an indication if the voter has requested an absentee ballot and furthermore, we get an up-to-date list of the latest voters who have been sent an absentee ballot to add the indication to the voter book. Thus, when the voter comes in and tries to vote we know they have an absentee ballot and will not permit them to vote on the machines or vote regular on a paper ballot. We will let them file a provisional ballot which will then be compared to the actual ballots received and only allow it to be counted if the board of elections did not receive the absentee ballot.

I would assume all states have a similar set of procedures to stop duplicate voting.

In short, tRump, it should not be possible to happen, so go suck on it you bastard!

yellowdogintexas

(22,231 posts)
33. Of course they do. In our county the voter books are now electronic.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 02:19 AM
Sep 2020

and will indicate if the voter was sent a mail in ballot. If they were sent a ballot and then try to vote in person, they need to bring the ballot with them, turn it in to us and then vote on the machine. Otherwise we could vote them provisionally and that vote would count if the other one doesn't show up.

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
34. From my understanding you would be correct.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 02:33 AM
Sep 2020

Assuming that records for absentee ballots are accurate too - and NC Board of Elections (as well as the individual counties) do keep good records. After all they uncovered Republican election fraud.

As for the provisional ballots themselves they would all be on paper, even if the county has touch screen voting. Not all counties use touch screen (with a paper backup); the trend has been to paper based voting and counted by a Scantron type of machine.

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