Sources Confirm Trump Remarks on Fallen Soldiers

[brooklynite]

Source: Politicalwire

President Trump denied in series of tweets that he had called fallen soldiers “losers” and “suckers,” as was reported in a blockbuster article in The Atlantic earlier in the evening.

The Associated Press, however, has multiple sources who confirmed the president’s disparaging remarks.

Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2020/09/03/sources-confirm-trump-remarks-on-fallen-soldiers/

[Zoonart]

1. He is lying on Twitter right now.

Calling it fake news designed to hurt his election chances.

[Drome]

7. I Still Want to Punch James Comey in the Face

Dumbass threw a monkey wrench into Hillary's 2016 campaign eleven days before the election, while, astonishingly, making no mention of the fact her opponent's campaign had very suspicious ties to Russia!

I really hope to meet the moron someday. Whatever the fine, or the 30-120 days in the nearest county jail will be worth the enjoyment!

[Kid Berwyn]

12. Hold your fire. It was Turtle.

From Politico 2018:

Joe Biden said Tuesday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell stopped the Obama administration from speaking out about Russian interference in the 2016 campaign by refusing to sign on to a bipartisan statement of condemnation.

That moment, the former Democratic vice president said, made him think “the die had been cast ... this was all about the political play.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia-obama-joe-biden-359531

[StevieM]

13. Nope. I will blame James Comey, and keep criticizing his actions, until the day I die. (eom)

[Kid Berwyn]

14. Don't blame you for feeling that way.

What NPR found...

...Former Vice President Joe Biden also has complained that the White House wanted Republicans to join in a bipartisan statement announcing and condemning the interference campaign. In Biden's telling, however, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., wouldn't go along.

But that didn't stop then-Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., from alluding publicly to the Russian campaign in a letter to then-FBI Director James Comey. And Comey reportedly wanted to announce the active measures in an op-ed column, as Newsweek reported in March 2017. Two sources with knowledge about the matter told Newsweek that Obama administration officials blocked the effort.

There's no way to know what difference it might have made for U.S. officials to have confirmed and condemned the Russian interference in real time.

Obama administration officials have said they worried about appearing to put their thumb on the scales for Clinton. Combined with Obama's belief that Clinton would win, their political calculus appears to have boiled down to: Let's ride this out.

Source: https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/587614043/fact-check-why-didnt-obama-stop-russia-s-election-interference-in-2016

There are links to details.

FTR: I’ve had a problem with the FBI since Nov. 22, 1963.

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1182&context=fac_pm

[DonaldsRump]

2. I am so glad this is coming out now

And I am furious that is coming out now...why didn't this come up in 2018? It would have helped us get back the Senate.

[Skittles]

6. they needed their supreme court justices

it would increasingly appear that these folk are realizing Trump is no longer "useful"

[dhill926]

3. hammer him 6 feet into the ground with this...

[GoneOffShore]

16. Get the sharpened stake, just to be sure. And coat it with silver.

[TomCADem]

4. Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are 'Losers' and 'Suckers'

Wow, Trump wanted to exclude wounded veterans? These are people who sacrificed the most, yet Trump just wants to hide and ignore their service.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

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Yet another, related, explanation concerns what appears to be Trump’s pathological fear of appearing to look like a “sucker” himself. His capacious definition of sucker includes those who lose their lives in service to their country, as well as those who are taken prisoner, or are wounded in battle. “He has a lot of fear,” one officer with firsthand knowledge of Trump’s views said. “He doesn’t see the heroism in fighting.” Several observers told me that Trump is deeply anxious about dying or being disfigured, and this worry manifests itself as disgust for those who have suffered. Trump recently claimed that he has received the bodies of slain service members “many, many” times, but in fact he has traveled to Dover Air Force Base, the transfer point for the remains of fallen service members, only four times since becoming president. In another incident, Trump falsely claimed that he had called “virtually all” of the families of service members who had died during his term, then began rush-shipping condolence letters when families said the president was not telling the truth.

Trump has been, for the duration of his presidency, fixated on staging military parades, but only of a certain sort. In a 2018 White House planning meeting for such an event, Trump asked his staff not to include wounded veterans, on grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees. “Nobody wants to see that,” he said.

[tclambert]

5. I think he means they were suckers for not bribing a doctor to say they had bone spurs.

Why go off to way when all you need is a doctor's note to get out of it? It will cost a lot less than paying off a porn star.

[stopdiggin]

8. Tammy Duckworth must really send him

off with the heebee jeebies then. (and of course I mean the smart, articulate, kick ass woman part)
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[usaf-vet]

9. tRump continues to lie about his comments about those who have died in combat or been captured.

“In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, ‘Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.’ In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as ‘suckers’ for getting killed.”

“I never called John a loser and swear on whatever, or whoever, I was asked to swear on, that I never called our great fallen soldiers anything other than HEROES.”

— President Trump, denying on Twitter tonight that he ever called Sen. John McCain a loser.

“He was a war hero because he was captured… I like people who weren’t captured… He lost and let us down. I’ve never liked him as much after that. I don’t like losers.”

— Trump, quoted by NPR, talking about McCain in July 2015.
https://politicalwire.com/2020/09/03/trump-on-john-mccain/

Report: Trump disparaged US war dead as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers’
https://apnews.com/b823f2c285641a4a09a96a0b195636ed

[dalton99a]

10. Kick

A former senior administration official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly, confirmed to The Washington Post that the president frequently made disparaging comments about veterans and soldiers missing in action, referring to them at times as “losers.”

In one account, the president told senior advisers that he didn’t understand why the U.S. government placed such value on finding soldiers missing in action because they had performed poorly and gotten caught and deserved what they got, according to a person familiar with the discussion.

Trump believed people who served in the Vietnam War must be “losers” because they hadn’t gotten out of it, according to a person familiar with the comments. Trump also complained bitterly to then-Chief of Staff John F. Kelly that he didn’t understand why Kelly and others in the military treated McCain, who had been imprisoned and tortured during the Vietnam War, with such reverence. “Isn’t he kind of a loser?” Trump asked, according to the person familiar with Trump’s comments.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-said-us-soldiers-injured-and-killed-in-war-were-losers-magazine-reports/2020/09/03/6e1725cc-ee35-11ea-99a1-71343d03bc29_story.html

[onetexan]

11. Makes me furious & sick to my stomach how this draft-dodging Idiot disrespects our troops & vets

The good news is now that it's been documented and wide open that the majority of our military is no longer with this dangerous man and will translate to votes for Biden.

[Marthe48]

15. Impeached traitor thinks more of rw militias

Than the people willing to sign up and protect the country.

[Illumination]

17. See...He really is a heartless ***hole! This is proof!