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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 09:45 AM Sep 2020

Centrist House group offers bipartisan COVID-19 relief deal

Source: The Hill

A bipartisan group of about 50 House lawmakers will offer their own coronavirus relief plan Tuesday in a bid to revive stalled stimulus negotiations between Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the White House before the Nov. 3 elections.

The Problem Solvers Caucus, comprised of centrist Democrats and Republicans, will propose a $1.5 trillion package that provides another round of stimulus checks, boosted unemployment insurance and much-needed aid for cities and states.

The proposal represents a last-ditch effort to strike a deal on COVID-19 relief with party leaders still about $1 trillion apart and lawmakers set to leave Washington for the campaign trail at the end of the month. The plan also comes as moderate Democrats and Republicans, many facing tough reelections, are voicing frustration about the weeks-long impasse as the pandemic has killed nearly 200,000 Americans and put millions out of work.

The Problem Solvers’s “March to Common Ground” framework calls for $1.52 trillion in new money, though up to $2 trillion could be available if coronavirus conditions worsen, sources said. Pelosi is digging in on Democrats’ demand for a $2.2 trillion package, while the White House says President Trump could support a little more than $1 trillion in funding.



Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/516442-centris-house-group-offers-bipartisan-covid-19-relief-deal



Both Pelosi’s office and White House officials have been briefed.
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Centrist House group offers bipartisan COVID-19 relief deal (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2020 OP
I'll stick with Pelosi, thanks. Voltaire2 Sep 2020 #1
Not a fan of this group. Tech Sep 2020 #2
Problem Solver's Caucus is really the Bacon Saver's Caucus bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #3
I would vote yes ouija Sep 2020 #4
No thanks not fooled Sep 2020 #5
Saw an interview on cable news this morning left-of-center2012 Sep 2020 #6
Eff The Hill and eff the Problem Solvers pecosbob Sep 2020 #7
I'm more open to this than most here Polybius Sep 2020 #8
I'm with you left-of-center2012 Sep 2020 #9
What is a "centrist Republican?" MissMillie Sep 2020 #10
Come up with another half a trillion and we'll talk BlueIdaho Sep 2020 #11

Tech

(1,769 posts)
2. Not a fan of this group.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 09:56 AM
Sep 2020

My rep is on it and he votes with Trump almost 90% of the time. He is definitely party over country.

bucolic_frolic

(42,980 posts)
3. Problem Solver's Caucus is really the Bacon Saver's Caucus
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 09:57 AM
Sep 2020

As in 'save my bacon! I might get booted from Congress!'

ouija

(397 posts)
4. I would vote yes
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:07 AM
Sep 2020

Because when Biden takes office January 21, first thing he will have to do is pass another 3 trillion dollar package as retail and commercial real estate goes bust. This would be a stop gap measure.

not fooled

(5,799 posts)
5. No thanks
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:54 AM
Sep 2020

The great Charlie Pierce had these tools figured out from the get-go. This article is from 2018 but pertains even more now as Dems look to possibly take more control after the November election:

[link:https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25323488/nancy-pelosi-speaker-mark-penn-problem-solvers/|]


The whole challenge, of course, was an attempt by the well-funded corporate gnomes of the Third Way, and No Labels, and the Problem Solvers Caucus—which is notable in political history for never having solved a single problem—to defang the new Democratic majority before it really gets rolling even in the mildest leftward direction.


The caucus was born out of meetings of congresspeople organized by No Labels, which was founded in 2010 as a bipartisan group, backed by wealthy donors, ostensibly dedicated to civility and good government. Nancy Jacobson, Penn’s wife, is the No Labels CEO, and Penn is also closely involved with the group. Gottheimer was elected to Congress in 2016 and co-founded the caucus, with Rep. Tom Reed, R-N.Y., shortly thereafter.


And Mark Pocan initially got snookered but wised up quickly. Again, from 2018 (funny how this group pops up whenever Dems have or appear likely to increase their power):

[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/opinion-no-labels-mark-pocan_n_5c06b110e4b0cd916fb0b042?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJn5e6vRCWxsou5liwijdSLd-sFMVGnrOjlJJlRB9GBYZV2Kbtscb3qyH1PHanZW8qWiz26zuwUTtGmpvqHZvuQwkVJidTN3UGn812DlNF03pzRHfDY1F5SjdlkLyGAwZ6rR7cJUzl0WBAnR-h8dYsO0vcCZT3prEBuQlgvgCro3|]

I was duped.

When I was elected to Congress in 2012, I attended the Bipartisan Program for Newly Elected Members of Congress at Harvard University. I was so excited to be a member of a branch of government for the most awesome country on the planet....

The moment we were sworn in, we were given lapel pins to brand us as the Problem Solvers Caucus, which was sponsored by No Labels.

However, things quickly went south. I attended a few meetings at the outset, but the rhetoric wasn’t about finding ways to get things done and breaking gridlock ― rather it was more about finding more centrist, more corporate and more special interest-focused things to do.

Soon thereafter, No Labels became involved in elections with a closely contested U.S. Senate race in Colorado, backing Republican Cory Gardner over Democrat Mark Udall.

That didn’t seem right. A group that wasn’t supposed to pick labels was doing exactly that: picking a label. When asked to join the Problem Solvers Caucus, members were never told that this would be part of the program...

While No Labels was originally advertised as a group committed to getting things done and breaking gridlock, it now seems more focused on stopping Pelosi and providing a fast track for special interests and lobbyists.

Worse, this past week I’ve read a few articles regarding what No Labels has been up to in the last couple of years.

First, the organization spent almost twice as much helping re-elect Republicans as it spent helping Democrats. Second, reporters reviewed email correspondence that showed No Labels contemplating a plan to attack Pelosi and use her leadership as a wedge to divide congressional Democrats. And third, it’s clear that No Labels never had any meaningful ultimatums or demands on rules for leadership during eight years of a Republican-led House, or over the last four years of a Republican-led Senate. No Labels only has challenges for Democratic leadership in the House, specifically, for our next speaker, Nancy Pelosi...

Look, I get it. No Labels is slick, and I got duped. But no other current or newly elected member of Congress should fall for its shtick. No Labels is a centrist, corporate organization working against Democrats with dark, anonymous money to advance power for special interests. Period.

So newly elected members, learn from my mistakes. Run. Fast. No Labels needs a label: “Warning: Wolf in sheep’s clothing inside. Join at your own risk.”



left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. Saw an interview on cable news this morning
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:14 AM
Sep 2020

Apparently this is getting some support, at least for a starting point.

pecosbob

(7,531 posts)
7. Eff The Hill and eff the Problem Solvers
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:35 AM
Sep 2020
Mark Pocan, a former caucus member and co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, a left-leaning organization, says he was "duped" by No Labels and the PSC, saying that rather than "breaking gridlock", it is "a fast track for special interests and lobbyists."


All they are interested in is corporate profits.

Polybius

(15,309 posts)
8. I'm more open to this than most here
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

I’m barely surviving on my state unemployment. I need the $1,200 and even more importantly, I need at least $400 a week unemployment from the federal government. Let’s at least look at the bill they propose before we say no.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. I'm with you
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:58 AM
Sep 2020

I'm 74, on SS, and in poor health.
I need help.

Refusing to listen to a proposal doesn't pay my bills.

MissMillie

(38,519 posts)
10. What is a "centrist Republican?"
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 07:10 PM
Sep 2020

Gop has gone so far right they don't know what the middle looks like anymore.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
11. Come up with another half a trillion and we'll talk
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 07:15 PM
Sep 2020

They ain’t negotiating the price of a yacht here - the money needs to cover the need.

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