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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:29 PM Sep 2020

Collins opposes replacing Ginsburg before November

Source: Portland Press Herald

LOCAL & STATE Posted 3:59 PM Updated 22 seconds ago

Collins opposes replacing Ginsburg before November

Maine's senior senator says the Senate may begin the process of reviewing President Trump's nominee to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, but a vote shouldn't take place before the election.

BY ROB WOLFE STAFF WRITER

U.S. Sen. Susan Collins on Saturday said she would oppose replacing the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the November election, though she would not object if the Senate began the process of vetting President Trump's potential nominee. ... "In fairness to the American people, who will either be re-electing the President or selecting a new one, the decision on a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court should be made by the President who is elected on November 3rd," Collins, a key swing voter, said in a statement Saturday afternoon.

{snip}

In her statement Saturday, Collins said she would have "no objection" to the Senate's reviewing the credentials of a Trump nominee, but added that the seat ultimately should be filled by the winner of the upcoming presidential election.

"In order for the American people to have faith in their elected officials, we must act fairly and consistently - no matter which political party is in power," Collins said. "President Trump has the constitutional authority to make a nomination to fill the Supreme Court vacancy, and I would have no objection to the Senate Judiciary Committee's beginning the process of reviewing his nominee's credentials."

She aded: "Given the proximity of the presidential election, however, I do not believe that the Senate should vote on the nominee prior to the election. In fairness to the American people, who will either be re-electing the President or selecting a new one, the decision on a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court should be made by the President who is elected on November 3rd."

{snip}

Read more: https://www.pressherald.com/2020/09/19/collins-still-silent-on-supreme-court-replacement/



The article is mostly the press release reprinted. This happened quickly, so there's not much time yet for a reaction.

Dave Weigel Retweeted

https://twitter.com/daveweigel

Sen. Collins comes out AGAINST a vote for Trump's nominee




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My statement on the Supreme Court vacancy:




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Collins opposes replacing Ginsburg before November


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Collins opposes replacing Ginsburg before November (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 OP
Great! I'll take it. Now vote her out regardless! OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #1
Concerned? yankee87 Sep 2020 #2
Yes, she will. LogicFirst Sep 2020 #30
For now . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #3
LOL...yep, been down this road before Bengus81 Sep 2020 #48
wtf does that mean... Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #4
Doesn't it mean she will not vote for the SCOTUS candidate if Joe wins? DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #7
If a President nominates someone, that President has already chosen the Justice... Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #12
But how will she feel after she comes in second place? StTimofEdenRoc Sep 2020 #5
This x1000 Capt. America Sep 2020 #58
They are all going to say this. They'll just vote after the election JDC Sep 2020 #6
But she said the decision should be made by the President that is elected in Nov. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Dan Sep 2020 #8
For now Etherealoc1 Sep 2020 #9
But she punted! She has no problem with the Judiciary Committee reviewing trump's nominee.... George II Sep 2020 #10
BINGO!!!!! nt sfstaxprep Sep 2020 #60
This is a nothing statement. She doesn't commit to not voting for the nominee... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #11
It IS a pointless statement, because it's already been said that the Senate schedule is such that... thesquanderer Sep 2020 #26
I agree - tho, I was told silly for pointing out it might be delayed until after the election. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #32
Good for her jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #13
IMO, The GOP has counted the votes. Collins' is not needed to confirm. Safe statement Raven123 Sep 2020 #14
Her Dem opponent, Sara Gideon, has been raking in tons of money since last night. Mrs. Overall Sep 2020 #15
PRIOR TO THE ELECTION just another useless republican nt msongs Sep 2020 #16
For now JustAnotherGen Sep 2020 #17
I'll believe her when she Polly Hennessey Sep 2020 #18
Bullshit Yellowdog88 Sep 2020 #19
Collins is trailing by 5+ pts. Let's face it, she sees it as an election ploy. Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #20
-17 OhioTim Sep 2020 #43
Uh-huh. Sure. AngryOldDem Sep 2020 #21
But after the election..... calguy Sep 2020 #22
I wouldn't trust Collins .. jb5150 Sep 2020 #23
I stopped believing anything any republican says Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #24
Don't believe her. The Kavanaugh confirmation Karma13612 Sep 2020 #25
Just like McDonnell Traildogbob Sep 2020 #33
Only for her election chances, and she will be for replacing her in the lame duck. Don't fall for Pisces Sep 2020 #27
Vote Collins out rockfordfile Sep 2020 #28
Snort. She says one thing now and then that concern of hers will kick in. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #29
Prior to the election is just weasel words. It means she will vote to confirm after the election. Statistical Sep 2020 #31
She is against everything until she is for it at the last minute. appleannie1 Sep 2020 #34
Donnie's going to nominate quickly.. paleotn Sep 2020 #35
This will last until Mitch makes the googly eyes at her while promising action on Vinca Sep 2020 #36
Did she not vote for Gorsuch, lets take a looksee............. turbinetree Sep 2020 #37
She just doesn't want it to be an election issue. Gore1FL Sep 2020 #38
Translation: Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #39
Any bets on this latest bout of this Concern? marble falls Sep 2020 #40
her lips say no no Marthe48 Sep 2020 #41
People need to understand that the lame duck is going to be the play. They'll hold it open ... mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #42
she and all Refukkkchickens have acquired Dumbp's pathology - ignore her completely bringthePaine Sep 2020 #44
But she'd still vote for any joker that Trump nominates anyway. NurseJackie Sep 2020 #45
Mitch is trying to save her seat. Mz Pip Sep 2020 #47
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Pobeka Sep 2020 #49
Uh huh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 #50
And then she'll turn right around and vote for the nominee anyway. sakabatou Sep 2020 #51
This is her usual worthlessness. She'll vote for a Trump nominee anyway. Greg K Sep 2020 #52
I'd trust a rattlesnake before I trust Collins Yeehah Sep 2020 #53
Bet you as soon as the election is over she will completely support it before her butt hits the cstanleytech Sep 2020 #54
I do not trust Susan Collins. riversedge Sep 2020 #55
Define oppose quakerboy Sep 2020 #56
and eventually she'll stop persisting, sooner than later Demonaut Sep 2020 #57
Good. OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2020 #59
Don't believe it. She's only there to create a distraction. tavernier Sep 2020 #61
People aren't believing anything she says anymore, duforsure Sep 2020 #62
She'll cave. She always caves. zanana1 Sep 2020 #63
Collins is almost certainly going to lose Polybius Sep 2020 #64
I believe anything that woman says as much as I believe whatever Trump says. Nitram Sep 2020 #65
Translated: show her the sugar. malthaussen Sep 2020 #66
One down! Three to go. mahina Oct 2020 #67
She expressed concern over the timing. She didn't say she's a "no" vote. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #68

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. wtf does that mean...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:32 PM
Sep 2020

Donnie nominates someone and Biden wins in November and the Senate tosses out the Pig's nomination?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
7. Doesn't it mean she will not vote for the SCOTUS candidate if Joe wins?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:34 PM
Sep 2020

Seems clear to me (of course, nothing is as it seems!)

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
12. If a President nominates someone, that President has already chosen the Justice...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:38 PM
Sep 2020

unless the election ushers in a new admin and then that short circuits the entire process?

oldsoftie

(12,486 posts)
46. But she said the decision should be made by the President that is elected in Nov.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:53 PM
Sep 2020

So if Biden wins, that means she should vote NO. *should*
Of course, if SHE loses, then she could just say "F them" to US and go ahead and vote yes

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. But she punted! She has no problem with the Judiciary Committee reviewing trump's nominee....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:34 PM
Sep 2020

...and that there should be no vote on trump's nominee BEFORE THE ELECTION!

But even when Biden wins, trump's nominee will already be in the process, and if the Committee votes to go to the full Senate, there will be a VOTE on trump's nominee!

She's playing both sides here.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
11. This is a nothing statement. She doesn't commit to not voting for the nominee...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:34 PM
Sep 2020

She's just saying the Senate should not vote ON the nominee. If it comes up to a vote, is she a yay or nay?

thesquanderer

(11,970 posts)
26. It IS a pointless statement, because it's already been said that the Senate schedule is such that...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:00 PM
Sep 2020

...no one would be confirmed (i.e. no vote taken) until after the electiony. So all she did was say she wouldn't do something there was no way she could have done anyway. She might as well have put out a statement that she will not be vacationing on Mars.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
32. I agree - tho, I was told silly for pointing out it might be delayed until after the election.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:04 PM
Sep 2020

Technically, McConnell can extend the session and push through a nominee before the election but I am not sure he'll do it.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
15. Her Dem opponent, Sara Gideon, has been raking in tons of money since last night.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:43 PM
Sep 2020

Collins is concerned about her future.

I donated to Sara Gideon this morning: https://saragideon.com/

Polly Hennessey

(6,784 posts)
18. I'll believe her when she
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:46 PM
Sep 2020

does what she says she will do. A “no” vote from Concerned Susan is highly improbable.

Yellowdog88

(66 posts)
19. Bullshit
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:47 PM
Sep 2020

Her statement means nothing.

Seems she is poised to lose.

When she does, and when trump loses too, the vote will still take place as a last salvo.

To hell with her and her statement.

Thekaspervote

(32,691 posts)
20. Collins is trailing by 5+ pts. Let's face it, she sees it as an election ploy.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:47 PM
Sep 2020

I would hope not..JUST mho, she will fold when the time comes

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
21. Uh-huh. Sure.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:49 PM
Sep 2020

Lots of wet fingers testing the wind today.

She’s in deep shit and she knows it — whatever she thinks it will take to save her seat. If she should win, it will be Impeachment Vote Part II...with much hand-wringing and soul searching, of course.

calguy

(5,290 posts)
22. But after the election.....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:52 PM
Sep 2020

When trump loses and we take the Senate, you can bet she'll be voting to confirm whoever the Trump chooses.

Karma13612

(4,538 posts)
25. Don't believe her. The Kavanaugh confirmation
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:55 PM
Sep 2020

Pretty much tarnished her credibility.

If not before that.
I just wasn’t as aware of her ‘stern stance’ tactics before those SCOTUS hearings.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
33. Just like McDonnell
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:05 PM
Sep 2020

Right? It will be fine AFTER the election. Fuck that bat shit old witch. They will all day that, put in a trumper, after the election, Then void the election due to Dem corruption, meaning they all stay in power even if they lose their own elections.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
27. Only for her election chances, and she will be for replacing her in the lame duck. Don't fall for
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:01 PM
Sep 2020

Her tricks. We need a Dem to repack her to insure the the changes that need to happen in the next 4 yrs

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
29. Snort. She says one thing now and then that concern of hers will kick in.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:03 PM
Sep 2020

She's simply playing to voters in hopes they'll vote for her.

paleotn

(17,876 posts)
35. Donnie's going to nominate quickly..
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:16 PM
Sep 2020

Way before the election. She will be asked how she will vote....after the election....and will have to give an answer. I don't know is still an answer. So far, meaningless gibberish from Susie.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
36. This will last until Mitch makes the googly eyes at her while promising action on
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:18 PM
Sep 2020

whatever her current pet project is. And she'll fold like the cheap tent she is.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
37. Did she not vote for Gorsuch, lets take a looksee.............
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:19 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/07/us/politics/gorsuch-confirmation-vote.html

just fuck the Constitution there Susan, did you not and everyone that voted for that federalist society asshole did you object to give Obama his up or down vote..................your really fucking hypocrite..............

Gore1FL

(21,095 posts)
38. She just doesn't want it to be an election issue.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:21 PM
Sep 2020

Post election is a stupid modifier. Post inauguration is not.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
42. People need to understand that the lame duck is going to be the play. They'll hold it open ...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:32 PM
Sep 2020
CompulsoryPatriotismHat Retweeted

People need to understand that the lame duck is going to be the play. They’ll hold it open through the election, hoping it helps them win. And if it doesn’t they’ll push it through in the lame duck.


NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
45. But she'd still vote for any joker that Trump nominates anyway.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:43 PM
Sep 2020

Screw her. If she fell into a deep well, I wouldn't care.

cstanleytech

(26,222 posts)
54. Bet you as soon as the election is over she will completely support it before her butt hits the
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:55 PM
Sep 2020

asphalt as she will probably be offered a cushy deal to do so.

quakerboy

(13,915 posts)
56. Define oppose
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:55 PM
Sep 2020

In very specific terms. Does that mean she will vote against a candidate that is brought to a vote before election day? Or inaguration day?

Or does it mean when a candidate is brought to a vote, she will express her regret and concern about the disruption of the process as she votes for them?

tavernier

(12,368 posts)
61. Don't believe it. She's only there to create a distraction.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:06 AM
Sep 2020

She’ll bail the end if Mitch needs her to swing back to their side.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
62. People aren't believing anything she says anymore,
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:31 AM
Sep 2020

And she's on her way out, and this appointment will only make many more lose their re-election bids in the republican party. trump is finished on Jan 20th.

Polybius

(15,331 posts)
64. Collins is almost certainly going to lose
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:46 AM
Sep 2020

After she does, there is almost no way that she won't vote for her. At that point, it won't matter anymore since she won't run again.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
66. Translated: show her the sugar.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 12:29 PM
Sep 2020

Just a little reminder to Mr McConnell that he needs to come up with something to buy her vote.

-- Mal

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,315 posts)
68. She expressed concern over the timing. She didn't say she's a "no" vote.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 04:44 PM
Oct 2020

She'll wring her hands, then vote "yes".

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