Trump Could Be Investigated for Tax Fraud, D.A. Says for First Time

[meow2u3]

Source: NY Times

The Manhattan district attorney’s office, which has been locked in a yearlong legal battle with President Trump over obtaining his tax returns, suggested for the first time on Monday that it had grounds to investigate him and his businesses for tax fraud.

The assertion by the office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., offered a rare detailed disclosure about the office’s investigation into the president and his business dealings, which began more than two years ago.

Mr. Vance, a Democrat, has never revealed the scope of his office’s criminal inquiry, citing grand jury secrecy. The investigation has been stalled by the fight over a subpoena that the office issued in August 2019 for eight years of the president’s tax returns.

Lawyers for Mr. Trump have said the subpoena should be blocked, calling it “wildly overbroad” and politically motivated. Mr. Vance responded to that argument in a new filing that did not directly accuse Mr. Trump or any of his businesses or associates of wrongdoing.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/nyregion/donald-trump-taxes-cyrus-vance.html

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This explains the desperate, escalating authoritarian tactics Trump and Barr are using. Donald is running to run out the clock so he can stay out of prison.

[CaptYossarian]

1. They could have asked any DUer back in 2016.

This is how the feds got Al Capone.

But Big Al never killed 400,000 people.

[George II]

5. Yeah, but don't forget that St. Patrick's Day Massacre! That's MUCH worse than this is....

isn't it? That's why Capone cleared out his vault before Geraldo could break into it.

Seriously, people forget that Capone went to jail because of tax fraud, not the murders, bootlegging, gambling, etc.

And don't forget, while in prison Capone's neurosyphilis progressively eroded his mental faculties. Perhaps that's why trump seems so out of it already?

[CaptYossarian]

23. A lot of parallels between Scarface and the Great Pumpkin.

[iluvtennis]

2. Good. Bring it Cy Vance. nt

[Mike 03]

3. It's a family affair.

I recall a news article posted here several weeks ago implicating Eric Trump in this--or another--investigation.

And Don Jr. was quoted telling a friend (or "friends" ) of his that he predicted his father would lose the election and that several members of the Trump family would be indicted.

[Mr.Bill]

4. Swell. My question is when?

Why are we still investigating crimes that took place maybe decades ago? This country needs to work on justice happening before the criminals all die of old age.

[StarryNite]

10. This

[Wednesdays]

18. If a POC tries to pass a fake twenty at a convenience store

Then you see REALLY swift justice!


So, what are you talking about?

[Warpy]

6. The IRS has a great track record when it comes to jailing mobsters

I have a feeling there were a few forgiven loans in there that were never claimed as income.

Loans from Russians, of course, who required certain services in return.

[SayItLoud]

7. The buzzing sound you have all been hearing since tRUMP stole the election is

document shredding. Just sayin...

[LiberalArkie]

8. I wonder if the Donald is still contributing to the NY democratic party?

[Six117]

9. How is it that this thing is even allowed to be free?

And still called "president". It's sickening.

[Wednesdays]

19. *cough* Fox News *cough*

[BComplex]

27. Fox is truly what connects all of America's nightmares together.

I wish legitimate news agencies would quit calling them "fox news" and start calling them the tabloid entertainment network and conspiracy churners.

[Nexus2]

22. According to another 'norm' as a sitting president, Trump can't be indicted.

And there's no way the current Senate will convict on impeachment and remove him from office.

[JohnnyRingo]

11. Not unprecidented.

Ask VP Spiro Agnew.
I think that's what they tossed him from office

[Bengus81]

12. Hold up until he grifts several hundred MILLION off that TiKToc setup

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And see if he claims a penny of it as income. As usual...FOLLOW THE MONEY.

[Generic Brad]

13. Talk is cheap

DO IT!

[Sherman A1]

14. Yawn

Sure he could be investigated, the question is will he be investigated?

[Grammy23]

15. I won't be too picky about what crimes get him to prison. Just lock the bastard up!

Make it a long, long time. And see to it that his evil spawn are incarcerated, too. It is way past time for their crime spree to end and for them all to get their punishment. I’m eagerly awaiting the day they all get frog marched to the pokey — all dressed in Orange prison jumpsuits. Can’t wait to see what tRump and Ivanka look like after a few months behind bars. A prison haircut ought to be fun to see on them.

[speaknow]

16. Lets stop

Kidding ourselves. If that POS gets the boot
and he goes to trial for anything, his Lawyer's
will say he is unfit to stand
trial and most likely get away with it.

[Judi Lynn]

17. Manhattan DA Argues in Appellate Brief That He Needs Trump's Tax Returns .....

... as Part of ‘Criminal Tax Fraud’ Investigation
MATT NAHAM
Sep 21st, 2020, 8:15 pm

Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance argued an appellate brief on Monday that he should be able to obtain President Donald Trump’s tax returns from a third party—namely, Trump’s finance firm—because news reports indicate that a “criminal tax fraud” investigation is warranted.

The brief filed in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit cited reports from The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and The New York Times to provide a “snapshot” for the court of the Trump Organization’s “financial improprieties” that “could potentially violate New York law.” These articles addressed anything from Trump’s role in hush money payments Michael Cohen paid out before the 2016 election to allegations that Trump inflated his net worth to lenders and investors.

“These reports have identified transactions spanning more than a decade, involving individual and corporate actors who were based in New York County,” the brief said.

The potential New York laws that Vance’s office cited:

As discussed below, such reports place sufficient notice into the public record to render the SAC’s claims implausible. In particular, if misstatements about business properties, wherever located, were conveyed from that business’s headquarters in New York to New York-based business partners, insurers, potential lenders, or tax authorities, those misstatements could establish New York crimes such as Scheme to Defraud (Penal Law § 190.65), Falsification of Business Records (Penal Law § 175.10), Insurance Fraud (Penal Law §§ 176.15-176.30), and Criminal Tax Fraud (Tax Law §§ 1803-1806), among others.

More:
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/manhattan-da-argues-in-appellate-brief-that-he-needs-trumps-tax-returns-as-part-of-criminal-tax-fraud-investigation/

[Bayard]

20. This is where he's going to get hung

My understanding is that New York can indict him, even if the Justice Dept. won't. And there won't be any pardons.

[Cha]

21. Just Do IT! TY!

[Capperdan]

24. Yeh, right

Teaser headlines, like "your stimulus check is on the way" . I'm giving up.

[Catch2.2]

25. I don't trust Vance

He's already shown that he can't be trusted.

[LuvJoesPartner]

26. Why didn't the authorities investigate his taxes

years ago? It appears he has paid off people to get out of trouble. He is 74 years old and has committed many felonies before the presidency. Something is wrong with the so-called justice system.

[Blue Owl]

28. "Could be," Might Be," "May Be,"

How about "WILL BE" -- the time for handwringing is over