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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:53 PM Sep 2020

Donald Trump Reportedly Said Jews Are Disloyal To US, Blamed Inequality On Black Americans

Source: Inquisitr/Washington Post

September 23, 2020
Damir Yujezinovic

An explosive new report from The Washington Post, published on Wednesday, detailed President Donald Trump’s private conversations with White House aides and other administration officials.

In private, the report stated, Trump made racially-charged comments about Black Americans and pushed anti-Semitic tropes.

After phone calls with Jewish lawmakers, the commander-in-chief said that Jews “stick together” and “are only in it for themselves,” according to officials.

In the alleged remarks, he suggested that Jewish Americans are disloyal to the United States, promoting an anti-Semitic canard.

Trump has also made insensitive statements about African Americans, suggesting that they are to blame for racial inequality and structural racism, officials said.

Read more: https://www.inquisitr.com/6295576/donald-trump-jews-black-americans/



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Donald Trump Reportedly Said Jews Are Disloyal To US, Blamed Inequality On Black Americans (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2020 OP
So what? ananda Sep 2020 #1
Just hit record on your iPhone, for crying out loud. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #2
It would totally be in his character to say this... VarryOn Sep 2020 #14
Oh boy. On Morning Joe today Donnie Deutsche made an impassioned appeal to Mike 03 Sep 2020 #3
Scarborough is a POS llashram Sep 2020 #45
Not sure how this is worse than constantly implying that if he loses, it is because of fraud. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #4
well, it's a different type of outrage... and there is a bad history on anti-Semitic sentiment LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #28
When he talks to Republican Jewish groups, he always refers to Israel as "your" country. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #5
in another thread here today ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #10
Also PatSeg Sep 2020 #16
yup. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #21
Yes, I've had friends who weren't haters, PatSeg Sep 2020 #24
Here's a blip from WaPo BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #6
So Black people are hindered by a lack of initiative PatSeg Sep 2020 #18
The racist playbooks and tropes are readily available to be used BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #19
Oh yes PatSeg Sep 2020 #20
Well there were a few others in the GOP who thrived on it BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #22
I have no idea how someone like Steve King PatSeg Sep 2020 #25
I'm thinking that after Obama was elected in 2008, he decided to go full on with that trajectory BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #32
I do remember that racism PatSeg Sep 2020 #38
Nazis invented suburbs I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #36
Thanks for the excerpt, BumRushDaShow. 👋 Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #39
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #44
Kushner, Miller, Mnuchin, Adelson, etc. are okay with it dalton99a Sep 2020 #7
You left out Ben Carson or was he the "etc."? Behind the Aegis Sep 2020 #11
fuck trump what a pos gopiscrap Sep 2020 #8
A common theme of all stripes of bigots. Behind the Aegis Sep 2020 #9
Aw nuts. I just wet my drawers in laughter. Firestorm49 Sep 2020 #12
Because he believes only his supporters are truly human DBoon Sep 2020 #15
What is new about his remarks on Jews? I could swear that was a momentary scandal earlier in cult45* niyad Sep 2020 #13
"I didn't say that". End of story. maxsolomon Sep 2020 #17
I though he supported Israel, pazzyanne Sep 2020 #23
Totalitarianism on display bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #26
I've said many times... heckles65 Sep 2020 #27
Evangelicals supoort Israel because it fulfills Biblical prophesy TexasBushwhacker Sep 2020 #35
This is something Hitler would say. progressive nobody Sep 2020 #29
I'm positive he uses far more colorful language in close company... nt EarthFirst Sep 2020 #30
There's the anti-semitism. roamer65 Sep 2020 #31
Outstanding Post...Thank You, just what is needed to get many people out to vote. Stuart G Sep 2020 #33
Those votes are needed, so much. Thank you, Stuart G. Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #40
Support Israel but not Jews. TNNurse Sep 2020 #34
A Russian traitor has the nerve to talk this way? THAT'S disloyalty to the U.S. a**hole!... Illumination Sep 2020 #37
Of course he does, because that is how his Russian masters think of Jews. Behind the Aegis Sep 2020 #41
Jews "stick together." murielm99 Sep 2020 #42
Agitate and deflect. Aussie105 Sep 2020 #43
FR24news - Trump says Jews are 'for themselves' and 'stay together', new report says BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #46
#WeveSeenThisBefore BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #47
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
14. It would totally be in his character to say this...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:46 PM
Sep 2020

But I’m with you...video or audio or it didn’t happen.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. Oh boy. On Morning Joe today Donnie Deutsche made an impassioned appeal to
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:57 PM
Sep 2020

fellow Jews who were voting for Trump, imploring them to recognize the signs of a fascist dictator, and even bringing up the Holocaust. Joe Scarborough pooh-pooed it, stepping on the emotional moment with a stupid joke.

This is pretty explosive, albeit unsurprising to people who have paid attention. He's made offensive and ignorant remarks on this subject before, questioning the loyalty of Jewish people.



llashram

(6,265 posts)
45. Scarborough is a POS
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:18 AM
Sep 2020

2015-16 he wanted trump as potus. I will never ever believe a word from his lying crockpot of a mouth.

jorgevlorgan

(8,288 posts)
4. Not sure how this is worse than constantly implying that if he loses, it is because of fraud.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:58 PM
Sep 2020

and implying repeatedly he will try to get the election results thrown out if he loses.

hedda_foil

(16,372 posts)
5. When he talks to Republican Jewish groups, he always refers to Israel as "your" country.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:00 PM
Sep 2020

That would directly relate to what he said above. He thinks Jewish Americans are loyal to Israel instead of the US.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
10. in another thread here today
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:09 PM
Sep 2020

it was said he didnt display outright antisemitism. i said that is because he thinks all bankers are jews.
but yeah, not true.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
16. Also
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:14 PM
Sep 2020

He probably doesn't think there is anything wrong with what he said. To him, it is just a statement of fact, "Jews are _____, Blacks are ____, Mexicans are ____, Muslims are ____, etc." In his narrow world view, people fall into certain categories and he is just describing them. He rarely sees people as individuals. He also doesn't think there is anything wrong with lying or cheating, as long as you're winning.

That said, he knows that other people often think there is something wrong with the way he talks about people, but he appears quite comfortable with his take on people.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
21. yup.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:36 PM
Sep 2020

i have a friend like that. makes me nuts, but at least he's not a hater. doesnt even hate ppl he ought to.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
24. Yes, I've had friends who weren't haters,
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:48 PM
Sep 2020

but they had stereotypical views about different races or nationalities. When I explained it to them, they often could see they were mistaken. It is easy for people to become a product of the environment that they come from, but conscious people can move beyond that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
6. Here's a blip from WaPo
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:02 PM
Sep 2020
Allegations of racism have marked Trump’s presidency and become key issue as election nears

By Greg Miller
September 23, 2020 at 10:29 a.m. EDT


In unguarded moments with senior aides, President Trump has maintained that Black Americans have mainly themselves to blame in their struggle for equality, hindered more by lack of initiative than societal impediments, according to current and former U.S. officials. After phone calls with Jewish lawmakers, Trump has muttered that Jews “are only in it for themselves” and “stick together” in an ethnic allegiance that exceeds other loyalties, officials said.

Trump’s private musings about Hispanics match the vitriol he has displayed in public, and his antipathy to Africa is so ingrained that when first lady Melania Trump planned a 2018 trip to that continent he railed that he “could never understand why she would want to go there.” When challenged on these views by subordinates, Trump has invariably responded with indignation. “He would say, ‘No one loves Black people more than me,’ ” a former senior White House official said. The protests rang hollow because if the president were truly guided by such sentiments he “wouldn’t need to say it,” the official said. “You let your actions speak.” In Trump’s case, there is now a substantial record of his actions as president that have compounded the perceptions of racism created by his words.

Over 3½ years in office, he has presided over a sweeping U.S. government retreat from the front lines of civil rights, endangering decades of progress against voter suppression, housing discrimination and police misconduct. His immigration policies hark back to quota systems of the 1920s that were influenced by the junk science of eugenics, and have involved enforcement practices — including the separation of small children from their families — that seemed designed to maximize trauma on Hispanic migrants. With the election looming, the signaling behind even second-tier policy initiatives has been unambiguous.

After rolling back regulations designed to encourage affordable housing for minorities, Trump declared himself the champion of the “Suburban Lifestyle Dream.” He ordered aides to revamp racial sensitivity training at federal agencies so that it no longer refers to “White privilege.” In a speech at the National Archives on Thursday, Trump vowed to overhaul what children are taught in the nation’s schools — something only states have the power to do — while falsely claiming that students are being “fed lies about America being a wicked nation plagued by racism.” The America envisioned by these policies and pronouncements is one dedicated to preserving a racial hierarchy that can be seen in Trump’s own Cabinet and White House, both overwhelmingly white and among the least diverse in recent U.S. history.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-race-record/2020/09/23/332b0b68-f10f-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
18. So Black people are hindered by a lack of initiative
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:22 PM
Sep 2020

not societal impediments? Unlike Trump who had the "initiative" to take $400 million from his father and go bankrupt 5 or 6 times? Donald is a real "pulled myself up by my bootstraps" kind of guy.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
19. The racist playbooks and tropes are readily available to be used
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:25 PM
Sep 2020

They have been around for hundreds of years, and certainly before anyone in his family got off the boat here.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
20. Oh yes
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:29 PM
Sep 2020

I can remember hearing such crap when I was very young, but you hardly expect to hear it today from a public figure. Many might think it, but few would say it out loud. For some bizarre reason, Trump seems to think that no one will ever repeat the horrible crap he says. I honestly think he just can't help himself, it just comes rushing out of his mouth. Once he starts ranting, he often can't stop.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
22. Well there were a few others in the GOP who thrived on it
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:42 PM
Sep 2020

like Steve King (Idiot-IA). Thankfully that one was finally shown the door.

As an "entertainer" (like most), he has one persona "in private" and the other "for the public". However when one starts mentally going downhill, the 2 personas start crossing and there is a tendency for stream-of-consciousness utterances.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
25. I have no idea how someone like Steve King
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:53 PM
Sep 2020

lasted in office as long as he did. He was never subtle or tactful. It was like he had time traveled from the 1950s. I have to wonder if what he was thinking might have actually been worse than what he spoke out loud. Maybe we were getting the filtered version?

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
32. I'm thinking that after Obama was elected in 2008, he decided to go full on with that trajectory
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 06:30 PM
Sep 2020

And when the racists were "given permission" to celebrate their white nationalist and nativist leanings after the 2016 election, he was free to just blurt out whatever he might have even said privately... and do so non-stop. He would have kept at it too if not for being primaried.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
38. I do remember that racism
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:09 PM
Sep 2020

became more overt with some segments of society after Obama was elected and then with Trump, they let it all out. It was as if someone took off all the restraints.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
36. Nazis invented suburbs
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:23 PM
Sep 2020

He called them garden cities. Figures trump sees himself as the racial purity keeper of the suburbs.

Behind the Aegis

(53,949 posts)
9. A common theme of all stripes of bigots.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:07 PM
Sep 2020

This is nothing new. Hell, as witnessed by other remarks, people are more upset by Jews/Blacks who are in his sphere of influence, then they are by the blatant bigotry of the POS sitting in the WH; but that attitude is also not uncommon.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
12. Aw nuts. I just wet my drawers in laughter.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:37 PM
Sep 2020

President “of the people” - all the people, not just the wealthy people.

I guess not. What an ASS.

DBoon

(22,356 posts)
15. Because he believes only his supporters are truly human
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:54 PM
Sep 2020

implied is that the rest of us are wild animals who should be shot on sight

niyad

(113,259 posts)
13. What is new about his remarks on Jews? I could swear that was a momentary scandal earlier in cult45*
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:41 PM
Sep 2020

Reign of terror.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
26. Totalitarianism on display
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 06:03 PM
Sep 2020

He's not going to change or back off. It's not the individual issues only, it's the sum of the issues and the pattern of behaviors. The whole GOP is going there. Voters would be wise to face up to it. And once they use right wingers to suppress the left, they'll turn on the right wingers too.

heckles65

(549 posts)
27. I've said many times...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 06:08 PM
Sep 2020

Conservatives like Israel because they like imperialism and domination of darker skinned peoples, which is what they see Israel as representing.

Not because they suddenly started liking Jews, because they haven't..

Behind the Aegis

(53,949 posts)
41. Of course he does, because that is how his Russian masters think of Jews.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:09 AM
Sep 2020

Check out "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion", free from the FBI.

Aussie105

(5,380 posts)
43. Agitate and deflect.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 01:36 AM
Sep 2020

The usual Trump approach to making friends and influencing people.

Nothing new here. Old man shouting at the Moon.

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
46. FR24news - Trump says Jews are 'for themselves' and 'stay together', new report says
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:08 PM
Sep 2020
  • President Donald Trump has reportedly said that Jews “are there for themselves” and “stay together” after an appeal with Jewish lawmakers.
  • The president made the comments privately to senior officials in his administration, according to a Washington Post report.

  • https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/09/trump-says-jews-are-for-themselves-and-stay-together-new-report-says.html
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