About 9% of Americans exposed to COVID-19 by mid-summer. That's a long way from herd immunity.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: USA Today

By the end of July, about 9% of American adults had been exposed to the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, according to a new study of dialysis patients, the largest yet looking for evidence of the disease in people's blood.

The infection rates varied from essentially zero in some states that avoided infection by mid-summer, to more than one-third of residents in parts of New York hard-hit in the spring.

The upshot is the American public is a long way from achieving "herd immunity" – having enough infections to prevent further spread of the virus.

Infection rates are so patchy that even if some areas have had high infection rates, people there are unlikely to be protected because others will bring the virus in from elsewhere, said William Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.



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[AZ8theist]

1. Yes, but herd STUPIDITY will overwhelm the nation...

At least in RUBE AMERICA.

Keep having super spreader events, you FUCKING IMBECILE.

Keep killing your supporters. Keep losing voters. Keep doing to America what you did with EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS YOU TRIED.

FUCKING TRAITORS LIKE YOURSELF ARE DESTINED FOR THE TRASH.

[paleotn]

3. Not red America. It's rube America.

I like that. Can I borrow it?

[AZ8theist]

4. Certainly!!

Just pay me a copyright fee of $0.0023 per calendar year.

So in the year 2150 you owe me about a buck three-eighty.

Sounds fair.....

[paleotn]

2. Lightyears and

about 1.4M more deaths away from herd immunity by my rough calculation. Safe to say herd immunity is not a viable option. Math is hard for fascists. They don't teach it in nazi school I guess.

[Pobeka]

5. There is NO hard evidence long term immunity exists for COVID19 after infection.

In fact, there are cases of multiple infections of the same individuals.

The jury is still out if long term immunity is even possible, only a specialized vaccine can provide some sort of long term immunity.

[WA-03 Democrat]

6. Name another corona virus vaccine....

[Igel]

14. I'd go one further.

Identify how widespread immunity resulting from vaccinations differs from widespread immunity from natural infection.

Then, once you've established that there's a theoretical distinction that can be drawn (cut things finely enough, there's one to be found), show that this is in any way the actual state of affairs.


Just as there's no "HARD" evidence of herd immunity for this (simply because it requires herd immunity to be established in order to measure it), there's no hard evidence that the abstract distinction has any bearing on reality.

[TheFarseer]

7. Only chance is a vaccine

We just can’t do a lockdown. Too many people will cheat and screw it up. This half-assed strategy we’re doing now isn’t cutting it. But not enough people are getting it to achieve here immunity. Come on Pfizer!!!

[NickB79]

8. And that 9% gives us 200,000 dead

A true 100% herd immunity approach would leave MILLIONS dead.

[Igel]

15. That's very "no true Scotsman".

Problem is, nobody knows for sure what the herd immunity percentage is. Early estimates made assumptions that turned out wrong--not that we've tested and falsified the predictions by showing the actual numbers are different, but if you change the assumptions you change the predictions.

Herd immunity has never been billed as being at 100%. Some estimates put it as low as 20%. Herd immunity isn't "nobody can catch it" but more like if somebody is infectious, it will not lead to an uncontrolled outbreak--it will have a small number of links in transmission and then that route of transmission will die out on its own.

[Steelrolled]

9. The infection rate is varies a lot

For high infection rate states like Florida and Louisiana, herd immunity could start becoming meaningful.

[NickB79]

11. Even in those states, it's not evenly distributed

Major cities could see herd effects by now, but rural areas and suburbs might not. And if immunity is only transient like some other coronaviruses, those outlying areas could serve as reservoirs to reinfect population centers as immunity wanes in 6 months.

[mdbl]

10. Trump's plan is herd infections

and it seems to be working. His rallies are a major part of that plan.

[truthisfreedom]

12. But hair furor clearly said herd mentality.

That’s all we need. To think like lemmings.

[DeminPennswoods]

13. Could be achieved at less than that

according to the studies cited in this article.

Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8518493/Covid-19-herd-immunity-develop-20-study-claims.html

[FakeNoose]

16. I sincerely doubt that 9% of our population has been tested

As of July CDC was "guessing" that about 1% of Americans have been tested for Covid, and they pulled that number out of their ass.

Even if they've actually tested 10 million Americans - which I doubt - it's still way short of 9% of our population.

The truth of the matter is that SOME people have been tested regularly and frequently, such as White House employees, professional athletes, medical & hospital personnel. But most of us won't ever be tested, because we aren't showing symptoms and they won't waste test kits on us.

Keep on wearing your masks kiddies, this is not going to end soon.