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muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:06 AM Sep 2020

Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict: Casualties mount in Nagorno-Karabakh

Source: BBC

Nearly 100 people, including civilians, have died as battles rage on between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

The mountainous enclave is recognised as part of Azerbaijan, but has been run by Armenians since a war ended in 1994.

The self-proclaimed republic has reported 84 military deaths since Sunday, as well as civilian victims.

Azerbaijan has not revealed its military losses, but has confirmed seven civilian deaths.


Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54338454



Armenia and Azerbaijan allege shelling attacks outside Nagorno-Karabakh

Armenia and Azerbaijan have accused each other of launching attacks outside of Nagorno-Karabakh, with claims of one civilian death, as the UN security council said it would hold emergency talks to try to end the fighting over the contested region.

Armenia’s foreign ministry said one civilian was killed in the Vardenis after Azerbaijani forces shelled “civilian-military infrastructure” in the border town of Vardenis miles away from the breakaway territory. It also claimed a civilian bus in the town was set on fire by an unmanned drone.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry had earlier accused Armenia of shelling the Dashkasan region, north of Nagorno-Karabakh – a claim the Armenian foreign ministry denied.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/29/un-to-hold-emergency-talks-on-azerbaijan-armenia-conflict
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Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict: Casualties mount in Nagorno-Karabakh (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 OP
I'm sure Putin will be happy to help IronLionZion Sep 2020 #1
Well, only if they're 'invited' in, of course ! nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #2
Putin invites himself in IronLionZion Sep 2020 #3
Turkey is more likely to join in, on Azerbaijan's side muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #4
Turkey really hates Armenia IronLionZion Sep 2020 #5
Armenians are Christians...so, along with the Greeks, they raped and pillaged them after WWI. Lucky Luciano Sep 2020 #7
Another war over mountains Roc2020 Sep 2020 #6
That's rather capitalist, isn't it? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #8
It's still a fight over dirt. EndlessWire Sep 2020 #10
Armenia says its fighter jet 'shot down by Turkey' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #9

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
1. I'm sure Putin will be happy to help
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:49 AM
Sep 2020

by rolling troops through Georgia to their base in Armenia and probably annex some territory along the way.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
3. Putin invites himself in
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 09:34 AM
Sep 2020


They'll use their base in Armenia as the excuse. It's not like anyone has the means to stop them.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
4. Turkey is more likely to join in, on Azerbaijan's side
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 10:10 AM
Sep 2020

They're cheering them on, and have had to deny sending troops already - though the accusation coming from Russia just makes it all look more unstable:

An aide to Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev denied on Monday that Turkey had sent fighters from Syria to Azerbaijan amid fighting over the breakaway region of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Armenia’s ambassador to Russia said earlier that Turkey had sent around 4,000 fighters from northern Syria to Azerbaijan and that they were taking part in the fighting, the Interfax and RIA news agencies reported.

“Rumours of militants from Syria allegedly being redeployed to Azerbaijan is another provocation by the Armenian side and complete nonsense,” said the aide, Khikmet Gadzhiev.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/armenia-azerbaijan-turkey-denial-int/azerbaijan-denies-turkey-sent-it-fighters-from-syria-amid-karabakh-fighting-idUSKBN26J16K

Turkey Vows Support for Azerbaijan in Escalating Nagorno-Karabakh Conflict

Turkey says it will back Azerbaijan with all means necessary as fighting entered a second day Monday between Azeri and Armenian forces over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh enclave, in a sign the conflict could be widening.
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was quick to voice support for Azerbaijan, labeling Armenia "the biggest threat to peace in the region." The Turkish leader called on "the entire world to stand with Azerbaijan in their battle against invasion and cruelty."
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"Turkey troops will not be on the front line, Azeri forces don't need them," said Turkish analyst Ilhan Uzgel. But Uzgel says Ankara remains Baku's key military ally.

"Turkey is already supporting Azerbaijan militarily," he said, "through technical assistance through arms sales, providing critical military support, especially in terms of armed drones and technical expertise. The line for Turkey's involvement, is Russia's involvement; actually, that is a red line for Turkey. Turkey doesn't want a direct confrontation with Moscow."

https://www.voanews.com/south-central-asia/turkey-vows-support-azerbaijan-escalating-nagorno-karabakh-conflict

Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
7. Armenians are Christians...so, along with the Greeks, they raped and pillaged them after WWI.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:45 PM
Sep 2020

I have Greek friends that will never be in the same room as a Turkish person. The animosity and hatred is very real after 500k and 1500k Greeks and Armenians respectively were murdered after WWI.

Roc2020

(1,613 posts)
6. Another war over mountains
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 PM
Sep 2020

people dying because of a stupid war based only on pride. No natural resources there.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
8. That's rather capitalist, isn't it?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:32 PM
Sep 2020

It's a war over where about 150,000 people live. No, there aren't huge natural resources, so at least Trump won't want to go in and steal something. Think of it as a war over a section of Vermont - it's about the same population density.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
9. Armenia says its fighter jet 'shot down by Turkey'
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:34 PM
Sep 2020
Armenia says one of its fighter jets was shot down by a Turkish jet in a major escalation of the conflict over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

The Armenian foreign ministry said the pilot of the Soviet-made SU-25 died after being hit by the Turkish F-16 in Armenian air space.

Turkey, which is backing Azerbaijan in the conflict, has denied the claim.
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Azerbaijan has repeatedly stated that its air force does not have F-16 fighter jets. However, Turkey does.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54345622
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