Trump Vs. Biden Race Tightens, Suddenly Looks Like 2016 In Latest IBD/TIPP Presidential Poll
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Source: Investor's Business Daily
Today's Trump vs. Biden poll finds that the race between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden has suddenly gotten much tighter. IBD/TIPP's latest 2020 presidential poll update shows that Republicans are rallying around Trump, Biden is leaking Democratic support, and the gap among independents has narrowed.
The latest IBD/TIPP Trump vs. Biden poll update shows the Democratic challenger leading the Republican incumbent by 2.3 points, 48.1%-45.8%, in a four-way presidential poll of likely voters. Libertarian candidate Jo Jorgensen has the support of 3%, and Green Party candidate Howie Hawkins 0.9%.
Read more: https://www.investors.com/news/trump-vs-biden-poll-race-tightens-like-2016-ibd-tipp-2020-presidential-poll/
I am getting confused and worried. How can Biden leak Democratic support? I am disgusted
Squinch
(50,916 posts)Jamesyu
(259 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,597 posts)PatSeg
(47,275 posts)We really don't need to be freaking out right now. I find this particular poll to be highly unlikely.
dchill
(38,444 posts)rocktivity
(44,572 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,908 posts)Rule of Claw
(500 posts)They just don't. For that to happen there would need to be a huge scandal.
This poll with a conservative turnout model is still 53-46. Joe.
This poll started at 8, went to five, back up to over six, then overnight shifted four points. Tomorrow Joe might be up 8 again. that isn't a race shift issue, that is a poll issue.
kansasobama
(609 posts)That was the only "fake" scandal. You have to realize there are many stupid voters.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)a large group across the nation to get an accurate number where as a dishonest one will try to do the poll in such a manner as to screw the numbers such as only polling people in a specific area where they know a specific political party is strongest.
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)don't matter. It's state by state. BTW a good poll should have at least 1000 folks to be creditable.
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)Until more valid polls show this kind of swing, I'd ignore it.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,576 posts)PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and and fox and help trump convince the dittoheads/trumpers/teabags that democrats would have to have stolen it
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Karma13612
(4,541 posts)PatSeg
(47,275 posts)Not everyone has a high post count. That said, I do think the concern is a bit over the top, but I suppose a lot of people are really nervous.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)Karma13612
(4,541 posts)ALSO reported, via a financial focused news source, that showed the race tightening?
Financial news sources would favor Trump if Im not mistaken.
I am pretending the race is close, but am not losing hope.
Biden is very popular, and I think the debate Thursday is going to help him as long as tRump doesnt become something he isnt capable of being: Sane.
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)They're reporting daily and have shown narrowing each of the last 2-3 days.
Financial news sources would favor Trump if Im not mistaken.
That's tough to say. IBD/TIPP has been out of step with most national polling for much of the cycle. OTOH, that's what happened in 2016 as well and they ended up looking pretty good.
Karma13612
(4,541 posts)I guess the polls are going to tighten anyway?
Just hope Biden stays ahead. Like a majority of us, I cant handle another 4 years of tRump.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)They say a Biden tax increase will be more then offset by Federal COVID Stimulas $$$$$$$$$$ in a Government controlled by the Democratic Party.
They are against Socialism until they are for it.
Karma13612
(4,541 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)shotten99
(622 posts)If there were several polls showing these results, it would likely be accurate. As such, this isn't a concern until all polls consistently follow suit.
ancianita
(35,933 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)They had him winning the popular vote and he didnt.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)Maybe the poll is an outlier, but anyone saying that Biden is leaking Democratic support is full of crap.
Thekaspervote
(32,707 posts)Dems are so very enthused, who says that kind of stuff?
PatSeg
(47,275 posts)I've never seen such enthusiasm among Democrats before, not even in 2008. There is so much more at stake this time.
Thekaspervote
(32,707 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Not this shit again. Joe would not drop nine points all of a sudden. Who the fuck is this pollster?
Polybius
(15,335 posts)They were among the top in 2016, but this year they seem to be giving Republicans more of a chance than any other pollster, Senate candidates especially. We'll know in two weeks how inaccurate they are.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,551 posts)catbyte
(34,336 posts)Cook:
290-168 Biden
https://cookpolitical.com/sites/default/files/2020-09/EC%20Ratings.092920.2.pdf
The Economist:
346-192
https://www.economist.com/us-election-2020
538: Biden 87% chance of winning
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
Botany
(70,447 posts)Trump is bleeding support daily and almost by the hour.
videohead5
(2,165 posts)Has Biden up by 9 points. I can't remember what poll it was?
Thekaspervote
(32,707 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)I am cynical about polls. You think MAGAts are not going to lie to them? To MAGAts, pollsters are practically the Deep State. A voice of authority on the phone. So, they've been lying all along and now they flip to create the illusion of momentum.
You think Democrats who are polled don't know the game? They fear overconfidence, so now a few % of them flip to lying to pollsters to motivate our base.
IOW, it was never 18 points, and it's not 2.3 points now. And this poll is nonsense anyway. An outlier to create a horse race for Republicans and to motivate their base.
Lock him up.
(6,920 posts)National polls mean Look at the swing-states polls: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ but don't get complacent: Tell everyone to get out with OXIGEN MASKS if they can and go get in the lines! Bring portable CHAIRS and play CARDS or whatever else!
(Apologies for caps but it REALLY matters.)
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Please go to fivethirtyeight.com and look a the average of polls. Biden's average of the polls is 10.2 percent over Trump.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Just like 2004 - Kerry IMHO won in Ohio - but they used fucked polls to persuade Dems not to contest it.
Fuckers.
PatSeg
(47,275 posts)That chart shows that Biden for the most part has been consistently going up over recent months.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)it needs to be a big enough blue wave landslide that it shuts these assholes up for a while.
538 still showing a comfortable lead for Biden, slim lead for Senate Dems, and solid majority for House Dems.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
RandySF
(58,493 posts)patphil
(6,150 posts)From their point of view, nothing has changed.
All the other polls have shown Biden doing well. I guess we'll have to see what the latest FOX and Rasmussen polls say to see if the Republicans are really gaining ground.
My guess is they aren't.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)None of them showed Biden lower than the upper single digits and one had him up 12. Don't sweat one poll. It will drive you nuts
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)to have abt keeping this kind shit from being posted??????
LiberalFighter
(50,784 posts)Where does he get his understanding of interpreting polls?
By the way, it appears that the IBD/TIPP "poll" is online/live type of poll.
C Moon
(12,209 posts)Early on, Trump was looked at by us as a ridiculous choice by the GOPI can remember he wasn't even able to find a VPand then as election day neared, the polls began showing a tighter race. Although, it still looked as though Hillary would take it. But with the help of Putin, Trump was able to get the electoral votes.
But there is a difference this time: everyone knows who Trump is politically. He made vague promises in 2016: his own healthcare plan, etc. He didn't come through.
I still believe Putin had a hand in changing votes in 2016...there were too many strange things going on at the booths. And I believe Putin will be at it againbecause NOTHING was done to prevent it. But this time, the mailed in votes are going to hurt that stealing.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I believe he was more important than every other factor put together in that election.
denbot
(9,898 posts)Citing known conservative source (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/investors-business-daily/),
Check.
Yeah, seems legit.
Now, where did I leave that alert button..
matt819
(10,749 posts)I chose this race caller because he's the only one whose name I know, which is because his daughter was one of my teachers in high school about a gazillion years ago.
In any case, this is what it's all about to "The Media."
Someone oughta do a similar race call for this race, or any other political race.
concretebluetwo
(114 posts)..right wing.
I suspect this is contrived to give the fascists ground to claim legitimacy after they steal the election or to complain about the election being stolen.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,636 posts)THAT'S INSANE
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,313 posts)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
President Trump is running out of time. Joe Biden leads by double digits in national polls, and state-level polling is only slightly closer. In fact, Bidens lead is so large that traditionally red states like Georgia, Iowa, Ohio and Texas might now go blue. Weve entered the last two-week stretch before Election Day, and Trump needs the race to tighten were way past the point where a normal polling error could let Trump close the gap. Still, Trump has a meaningful chance per our forecast a little worse than the chances of rolling a 1 on a six-sided die and a little better than the chances that its raining in downtown Los Angeles. And remember, it does rain there. (Downtown L.A. has about 36 rainy days per year, or about a 1-in-10 shot of a rainy day.)
The last two weeks of the campaign can be an incredibly stressful time, though, so here are eight tips from editor-in-chief Nate Silver to stay sane, including advice like paying attention to polling averages (not individual polls) and not putting too much stock in how either campaign feels (they usually do not have a better read on the race than the polls.)
Should you trust the polls this year? Yes. But we understand that many people have lingering questions after 2016, even though Trump was just a normal polling error behind Hillary Clinton. So heres what 15 pollsters told us theyve changed since 2016 (a lot of them weight by education now) and what still worries them about 2020.
TheFarseer
(9,317 posts)Got over half a percent. Im pretty plugged into the crowd that you would suspect could vote for him and Im just not seeing it.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)iluvtennis
(19,835 posts)Red State Prisoner
(138 posts)The Siena College/The New York Times Upshot is better. A+ rating. Relax, take a break, and vote.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Ricky-by-the-lake
(14 posts)The race has always been expected to tighten as we get closer to Election day. We dont want another November surprise like we had in 2016.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)I'm trying to remain optimistic given the early voting enthusiasm that seems to be out there, but it's getting harder and harder. Please democrats, GOTV!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Initech
(100,040 posts)reader1
(55 posts)Someone by the name of Jed Graham, who is a Trump supporter, started to conduct polling just around a week ago. Also, if you read his polling carefully, you would have noticed this is a snapshot of a one day poll of just 200 people. So disregard this poll, it is worthless.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)applegrove
(118,492 posts)Alert: source
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/investors-business-daily/
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