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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:23 PM Nov 2020

I was asked to lie about Hunter Biden, admits Ukrainian businessman

Source: The Times UK

Hares Youssef claims he was promised a US visa in return for information that would damage Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, writes Manveen Rana

After an election campaign built on attacking the reputation of his rival’s son, Donald Trump is facing calls for a new legal investigation into his activities in Ukraine where he and his associates were looking for dirt on Hunter Biden.

The Stories of our Times podcast has spoken to a Ukrainian businessman who has admitted, for the first time, that he was asked to lie about Hunter Biden’s business dealings to damage Joe Biden’s reputation. In return, he was promised a US visa and legal immunity.

Read more: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/i-was-asked-to-lie-about-hunter-biden-admits-ukrainian-businessman-853krxgtz




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I was asked to lie about Hunter Biden, admits Ukrainian businessman (Original Post) sabra Nov 2020 OP
Story is behind pay wall exboyfil Nov 2020 #1
I think that would be the very top of the tRump Gang who would order INS underling to make it happen Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #4
Those servers will probably be clean as a whistle long before January 20. cab67 Nov 2020 #18
That was my first thought. JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #6
Rudy at the Hilton Hair Salom! OhNo-Really Nov 2020 #7
Any receipts? exboyfil Nov 2020 #9
Now you tell us ... where were you when we needed you, up Dotards butt? 42bambi Nov 2020 #2
"I am thoroughly surprised by this", said no one usajumpedtheshark Nov 2020 #3
I have the feeling that, now that the fear of The Wrath of Con has to be fading, BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #5
i think trump admin will spent the remaining weeks destroying all documents AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #8
Any whistleblowing patriots still left? exboyfil Nov 2020 #10
Maybe he will call in Oliver North DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #13
I keep seeing this posted but I've yet to encounter anyone whose read the article. herding cats Nov 2020 #11
Did he make up shit? Or not? LakeArenal Nov 2020 #12
"I was asked..." BY WHOM??? nt Ilsa Nov 2020 #14
The 'offer' came from a member of Dmytro Firtash's 'team' muriel_volestrangler Nov 2020 #15
There it is: the Russian Mob. crickets Nov 2020 #16
Thank you for the snip, Muriel. herding cats Nov 2020 #17
KR! Cha Nov 2020 #19
K&R. nt Wednesdays Nov 2020 #20

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
4. I think that would be the very top of the tRump Gang who would order INS underling to make it happen
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:31 PM
Nov 2020

One thing about Authoritarian Dictatorships is that they are essentially massive bureaucracies where underlings insist on orders before taking risks, such as pushing through a visa outside of usual channels.

Parallel bureaucracies also generate their own "paper trails" (digital also) that can be used to convict them.

Biden should Day One seize private servers tRump Gang has been illegally using.

JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
6. That was my first thought.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:56 PM
Nov 2020

It really matters. If it was Rudy, then he's personally responsible and should answer how he, as a private citizen, would grant a visa and immunity.

If it was Trump or his family, that's direct government corruption. Using govt resources to sway an election is serious enough to impeach him again.

President quid pro quo strikes again.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
9. Any receipts?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:04 PM
Nov 2020

Whatever assets Rudy G. has are going to Hunter. Hunter might also pick up a controlling interest in the NY Post as well.

I assume one of the 100 or so pardons Trump will issue will go to Rudy.

Then again maybe he will only take care of his family and himself instead (like always and not always his family).

it would be hilarious if the only pardons were for his kids and his son in law (and of course himself and Pence).

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
5. I have the feeling that, now that the fear of The Wrath of Con has to be fading,
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:36 PM
Nov 2020

we will see more and more stories of this type.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
8. i think trump admin will spent the remaining weeks destroying all documents
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:04 PM
Nov 2020

the punishment for destroying records is likely much less compared to what’s in those records.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
10. Any whistleblowing patriots still left?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:06 PM
Nov 2020

You know someone who could do a massive data dump to a little server sitting someplace relatively inaccessible. These folks would have to be supported by IT professionals someplace. Not all of them may be political loyalists.

DENVERPOPS

(8,804 posts)
13. Maybe he will call in Oliver North
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:05 PM
Nov 2020

and North's Bimbo, Fawn Hall, to organize all the shredding ??????????????/

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
11. I keep seeing this posted but I've yet to encounter anyone whose read the article.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:37 PM
Nov 2020

It's obviously good clickbait, but it's behind a paywall to a Murdock publication. So, I'll wait until someone can provide more insight into legitimacy of it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
15. The 'offer' came from a member of Dmytro Firtash's 'team'
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020
Mr Youssef claimed a member of Mr Firtash’s team approached him, saying: “We can solve this relationship with America if you can help us.” He said that he was told his friend’s extradition order could be rescinded if he could find enough evidence against Hunter Biden.
...
Mr Youssef said that Mr Firtash was not involved in the approach and there is no suggestion that he was aware of the actions alleged to have been taken by his team.
...
“Somebody from Firtash’s team asked me if I wanted to get my visa back and to be able to travel to the United States again,” Mr Youssef claimed. “They said if we solved the problem in the United States, we can solve the problem of your visa, you can even get immunity, if we can use your investment in mbloom in this Hunter Biden case.”

The allegations have been put to Mr Firtash’s team, but they responded by reiterating the businessman’s earlier claim that he “did not collect any information, didn’t finance anyone who would collect that information, and it would be a big mistake if I decided to get involved in such a fight”.

Colonel Vindman said "This is entirely consistent with what I was tracking".

The direct podcast may be available here: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stories-of-our-times/id1501716010

crickets

(25,959 posts)
16. There it is: the Russian Mob.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

We all knew they were still involved somehow, likely on many levels. This is just one of them.

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