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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:00 PM Nov 2020

Top Republicans back Trump's efforts to challenge election results

Source: MSN/Washington Post

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other Republicans on Monday backed President Trump’s efforts to contest his loss to President-elect Joe Biden, despite the lack of evidence of significant fraud and sharp rebukes from election officials who defended the integrity of the vote.

McConnell (R-Ky.) said from the floor of the Senate that the president is “100 percent within his right” to pursue recounts and litigation. McConnell did not repeat Trump’s baseless assertions that fraud had cost him the election, but he said he had met with Attorney General William P. Barr earlier in the day and supports the president’s right to investigate all claims of wrongdoing.

“We have the tools and institutions we need to address any concerns,” McConnell said. “The president has every right to look into allegations and request recounts under the law.”

Separately, Barr on Monday gave federal prosecutors a green light to pursue allegations of voting irregularities in certain cases before results are certified. The memo appeared to reverse previous Justice Department guidance that prosecutors generally should not take overt steps in cases involving alleged voter fraud until results are in and official.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-republicans-back-trumps-efforts-to-challenge-election-results/ar-BB1aR15p?li=BBnb7Kz



With three Trump appointees on the Supreme Court and Trump firing Esper, it almost appears like Republicans are preparing to hold on to the Presidency irrespective of the election results.

This is why it is important to support Democrats in the Senate race in Georgia, otherwise McConnell will claim a mandate to support Trump as the legitimate President.

The fight is not over. Just because we won the election does not mean that Republicans are going to give up power.

https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/11/7/21554114/trump-election-2020-voter-fraud-challenge-recount-biden

Trump is attempting a coup in plain sight

A few years ago, there was a boom of articles called “If it happened there,” imagining how the American press would cover this or that story if it happened in another country. How would we cover the government shutdown if it happened in another country? The Ferguson protests? The Oregon militia siege? George Floyd’s killing? Mike Bloomberg?

Slate’s Joshua Keating popularized the form, but other outlets, including Vox, have deployed it. The intent was to use the tropes of foreign coverage to create a sense of what the literary critic Darko Suvin called “cognitive estrangement”: severing us from the familiarity and overconfidence that can dull our awareness of extraordinary events. And so you’d get leads like, “the pleasant autumn weather disguises a government teetering on the brink. Because, at midnight Monday night, the government of this intensely proud and nationalistic people will shut down, a drastic sign of political dysfunction in this moribund republic.”

But the slight air of parody lent the whole enterprise a sense of unreality. America isn’t a banana republic. It wasn’t happening there. It was happening here, and that made all the difference. In order to even see the danger, to recognize the depth of tensions or the possibilities of fracture, we had to control for American exceptionalism, for the implicit belief that we were the United States of America, and we were different.

If the past four years — and the past four days — have proven anything, it’s that we are not as different as we believed, not as kissed by providence as we hoped. Perhaps we are not different at all. We need to cover it as if it happening here, because it is.


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FoxNewsSucks

(10,423 posts)
1. Democrats need to fight this to the death,
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:07 PM
Nov 2020

because that's literally what it means for millions of people.

And it's just one reason I'm so glad Biden & Harris started off today behaving like they won. Taking the actions that they should. Waiting would have been a huge mistake.

CBHagman

(16,982 posts)
9. That is the quote that captures everything.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:10 AM
Nov 2020

Also, notice the white-hot rage of the Republicans. They are a toxic mixture of self-pity, mendacity, entitlement, and aggression. Quite dangerous.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
4. Biden needs to come out HARD on this
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:39 PM
Nov 2020

None of this “healing” shit. Show us you are going to play hard ball. Dems AND Trump supporters need to see this. I want a leader, not a nice guy.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
5. Yeah I caught the end of a cnn segment where they said as much
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:42 PM
Nov 2020

That Biden was giving trump time and space to let it sink in, out of decency, but since they’re not acting decently it’s time to come out strong

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
11. Biden Is Not Going to Be Doing Much If He Is Taken Into Custody
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 03:56 AM
Nov 2020

Trump has repeatedly pushed Barr to prosecute Biden. Do you seriously think Trump and his supporters will not cross any lines to hold power.

It is going to be up to the people since Republicans in the Senate are falling in line behind Trump confident that the Supreme Court will do nothing on the ground that it is a non-justiciable political question.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
6. Their original plan, if they lost, was to send it to our new Supreme Court...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:46 AM
Nov 2020

and watch as the conservatives side with Trump.

But the fact that the election gave Biden more votes than any other candidate in history, and the way the country reacted and the world reacted, scared them.

Now that the dust is settling, they want to try plan A again.

But I believe the Supreme Court will look like criminals if they hand this to Trump. You're out of luck, GOP.

0nirevets

(391 posts)
8. I could be wrong, but all of this will fall flat. Why? It will cost tens of millions.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:05 AM
Nov 2020

Trump and his campaign is broke, so he'd need Adelson, Koch, or somebody, anybody, to cough up HUGE bucks on what even Fox and Trump insiders know is a losing cause. Trump is going all-in on a known losing hand just to keep the game going, but it's already over. Moscow Mitch is just playing along, doing the minimum obvious GOP anti-anything Democrat dance, but he knows just as well as the others it's over. The SCOTUS will have nothing to say because there aren't any actual court cases in any state to appeal. None, because none of the half-starters had any evidence at all and their cases were tossed. So Trump and his gang of highly paid lawyers, if he had the money to hire any, would have to start from scratch and come up with something solid to challenge or "appeal." But where, and what? And in any case, Trump would need to succeed in multiple states to reverse Biden's historic and massive win, but the state's aren't playing into Trump's lies and conspiracy narrative.

At this point, Trump and McConnell and the GOP are a bunch of barking dogs behind a fence. They may scare a few kids and irritate the neighbors, but the dog will eventually tire out, or it's owners will lock him in the garage.

Peace

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
12. It's probably just cover while he continues doing stuff like send weapons to UAE
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:30 AM
Nov 2020

It’s his M.O.

He’s distracting us from one misdeed or another while simultaneously fleecing his base for lawsuit $$$.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
10. I think that just because
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 03:32 AM
Nov 2020

Trump lost in the lower courts that there is nothing to stop him from filing appeals higher up.

No matter how much people scoff, we are watching yet another attempt for Trump to become a dictator--not that he isn't already, but it has better optics if he seems to win legitimately.

I think it is blatant that he appointed DeJoy to screw with the ballot delivery. And it worked either way for him--he just went to Plan B: If people mailed in their votes anyway, then whatever he was gonna do with the machines was changed to claims over the ballots. Make no mistake about it. Trump himself engineered this crisis, like he always does.

And, elsewhere, the Governors are starting to declare state-wide emergencies, and Federal troops are being deployed to these states to assist with the pandemic. This isn't from Biden. This is from Trump.

Trump lost this election. But we are still in trouble, however inconceivable it may be.

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