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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:54 AM Nov 2020

Former Trump Appointee Accused of Lying Under Oath Leads Law Firm That Filed Election Suits

Source: Newsweek

Darragh Roche 35 mins ago

One of the lawyers leading the Trump administration's efforts to challenge the results of the 2020 election was previously accused of lying under oath while serving at the Department of Justice.

John M. Gore's law firm, Jones Day, has joined another firm, Porter Wright, in filing a suit in Pennsylvania. At least four lawsuits are already pending in the state and at least one filing alleges "irregularities."

Gore previously served as the principal deputy assistant attorney general for the DOJ's Civil Rights Division but returned to Jones Day in 2019 after he was accused of perjury. He was a partner at the firm before joining the administration in 2017.

The accusation relates to claims by Gore and former Commerce Department transition official Mark Neuman that Neuman did not help Gore draft a letter defending the inclusion of a citizenship question in the 2020 census.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-trump-appointee-accused-of-lying-under-oath-leads-law-firm-that-filed-election-suits/ar-BB1aRFMv?li=BBnb7Kz

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dlk

(11,546 posts)
5. Attorneys who perjury themselves should be disbarred
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:42 AM
Nov 2020

Legal ethics are a joke. Turing a blind eye only promotes further corruption.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
8. legal ethics are not self-executing.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

Did you file a complaint? Do you know if anyone else did?

Perjury is grounds for discipline, as evidenced by Bill Clinton's experience. But it starts with a complaint, then goes through a local process, which is generally followed by an appeal to the state licensing entity.

Unless you filed a complaint (or know that one was filed) that found he permitted himself, and did nothing, there is no basis for your assertion that the barring entity turned a blind eye.

dlk

(11,546 posts)
9. So, where are the complaints?
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:06 AM
Nov 2020

I have experience in this area & have experienced, how one hand washes the other.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
10. You are the one who asserted they are turning a blind eye to it.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

Again - legal ethics is not self-executing. Someone has to file a complaint to start the process. That someone does not have to be a lawyer. But unless someone files a complaint ethics committees have nothing to act on.

I'll repeat - did you file a complaint? Do you know that one was filed?

dlk

(11,546 posts)
15. You're suggesting it's entirely my personal responsibility to solve the problem
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:21 PM
Nov 2020

I fully understand the process and have participated in same, although not in this particular case and what I’ve experienced is one hand washes the other. There’s nothing stopping anyone else from filing a complaint. I can’t be the only person in America who who witnessed corruption or been on the receiving end of it. Additionally, the bar could certainly do better policing its own members. Corruption in any profession doesn’t do that profession any favors.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
16. No, I'm not.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:26 PM
Nov 2020

You asserted they were turning a blind eye to it.

That would be true IF a complaint had been filed and dismissed, despite there being substantial evidence it was true.

So it isn't up to you to solve the problem - BUT - since you are using it to slam the legal profession by claiming it is turning a blind eye to perjury, it is your responsibility to back that up by demonstrating that a complaint was actually filed. You can do that by either having filed it yourself - OR - by knowing that someone else has filed one.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
7. Gore does not "lead" Jones Day.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

He is a partner, but not the managing partner, or even a partner in charge of the office in which he works. He is merely one of more than 500 partners.

pandr32

(11,578 posts)
12. From what I've read the firm is noteworthy for representing controversial clients
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:56 AM
Nov 2020

The Bin Laden family and Big Tobacco have been among them. The firm rakes in lots of dough for their specialty. I would think that because of their specialty stretching the truth or 'alternative facts' would be regularly employed.
We need to stop making outright lies legally acceptable no matter how many millions law firms are paid.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
13. I'm not defending the firm - just noting that the headline about him leading the firm is nonsense.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:58 AM
Nov 2020

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
11. Ah, Republican humor
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

I wouldn't be surprised if they picked a guy named Gore just to rub it in our faces.

"They had to put up with Gore v. Bush - and now Gore v. Biden! Harty-har-har!!"

Turbineguy

(37,315 posts)
14. Well, you sink to the point
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:25 PM
Nov 2020

that the only place you can work is trump.

"should I dress and shave this morning?"

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