U.S. Justice Alito Says Pandemic Has Led To Unimaginable Curbs On Liberty
Source: Reuters
(Reuters) - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito said the COVID-19 pandemic had led to previously unimaginable curbs on individual liberty, singling out restrictions on religious events. The justice, who is seen as a conservative, told a meeting of the Federalist Society late on Thursday he was not underplaying the severity of the crisis or criticizing any officials for their response.
But he added: We have never before seen restrictions as severe, extensive and prolonged as those experienced for most of 2020. "The COVID crisis has served as sort of a constitutional stress test," he said during his address over a video link for the conservative organization's annual conference. Think of worship services! Churches closed on Easter Sunday, synagogues closed for Passover in Yom Kippur, he said. It pains me to say this, Alito added, but in certain quarters, religious liberty is fast becoming a disfavored right.
The justice said freedom of speech was also under threat. Although that freedom is falling out of favor in some circles, we need to do whatever we can to prevent it from becoming a second-tier constitutional right, he said. Alitos remarks on free speech echoed his words from 2016 at the same event when he referred to college campus culture that conservatives say stifles free speech to avoid offending political sensibilities on matters such as gender, race and religion.
Social norms had created a list of things that was now unacceptable for students, professors and employees to say, he added on Thursday. You cant say that marriage is a union between one man and one woman, he added. Until very recently thats what a vast majority of Americans thought. Now its considered bigotry.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-supremecourt/u-s-justice-alito-says-pandemic-has-led-to-unimaginable-curbs-on-liberty-idUSKBN27T0LD
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Squinch
(50,918 posts)after 9/11 when all that Patriot Act bullshit got passed.
Polybius
(15,336 posts)But that should have been struck down 9-0. Did it ever even go to court?
sandensea
(21,604 posts)Treason doth never prosper...
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)as brown people. There are even some on DU who support racial profiling at airports even though it has been proven to be for show and does nothing for security. People like having the perception of security as long as it impacts someone else.
paleotn
(17,884 posts)Ole Sam is like the pigs in Animal Farm. THEIR "first tier" constitutional rights are more constitutional than the rights of anyone else. And like most "rights" wankers, Sam doesn't seem to understand that his rights end precisely where the rights of others begin. More libertarian lunacy from the lunatic society.
atreides1
(16,067 posts)He might want to brush up on history...like what happened during WWII!
Polybius
(15,336 posts)First, wouldn't it have to pass the Senate too? Even if it does (or it can be done by an executive order), I think it may be struck down by the SC.
rockfordfile
(8,699 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,007 posts)the court toilets.
Deplorable scum.
Blue Owl
(50,279 posts)Look at the other countries that took the right steps and compare with the botch job Dumbed-Down Donny did...
empedocles
(15,751 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Which of those is listed first, Sammy?
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Generally speaking, they didnt keep them in place long enough to effectively combat the pandemic. They may have to be re-instituted as a result.
With all due respect, Justice Alito, your concerns are noted.
-Laelth
Mustellus
(328 posts)Oh, wait. The Invisible Hand of Evolution (TM) (C) is always at work. As conservatives prepare to die for their Free Dumb.
Red Mountain
(1,727 posts)groundloop
(11,514 posts)And of course we mustn't forget that we'd be FAR better off right now in regards to the pandemic if people would just fucking wear a mask, but tRump has made mask wearing into a political statement.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)power to spy on the citizens. So he is full of it when he complains about the loss of liberty.
The only liberty for he is that of white, traditional Christians.
Grins
(7,199 posts)You can Google it!!!
OAITW r.2.0
(24,301 posts)True patriotism would have been for all Americans to heed the science ....had we all done that, we would have defeated the virus months ago and all of those precious liberties would have been totally restored.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)He could be on the court another 15+ years! If we do not win both of the Georgia Senate seats, we need to get at least two seats in 2022. Otherwise, McConnell will cause gridlock and refuse to cooperate on anything, including must-pass budget bills. He will bet that Biden would not shut down the government to get what he wants, and probably be right.
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Initech
(100,041 posts)See: 1918 - 1920 and we're basically doing most of the same things they did back then. Ugh... the stupid hurts!
former9thward
(31,946 posts)In fact, President Wilson, did not mention the disease even once. Everything was left up to localities.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)To OBSERVE what medical staff are enduring EVERY DAY! What a heartless bastard!!!!!
Midnight Writer
(21,717 posts)catbyte
(34,341 posts)bullshit argument to its logical conclusion, we should abolish all public indecency laws and let it all hang out. And forget seatbelts, smoking bans, and auto insurance, among a myriad of other public health & safety laws.
Obtuse asshole.
ashredux
(2,599 posts)You had to even have a coupon book stamp to buy sugar! My Freedom!!!
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)of people exercising their religious liberty, according to Alito's twisted logic thought processes.
Marthe48
(16,905 posts)God is whereever I think of him. I don't need a building or other people to feel the connection to my faith. Or my religion.
And I blame every r, every conservative for the continuing abridgement of my other rights. The right would be happy to see every liberal pinned to a board like a butterfly.
droidamus2
(1,699 posts)I know of no government agency that is limiting church services specifically because they are religious in nature. They are restricting them because it is a bunch of people in an enclosed space that causes a danger of spreading a deadly virus. It is that simple. I get real tired of people using their religion as a cover for ignoring the laws of this country. Do I think religious people should not be able to believe and practice their religions, no, but I do have a problem with them taking their personal beliefs, for example about same sex marriage, and then hiding behind their religion to cover up their bigotry. The idea of 'a strongly held religious belief' has been so stretched out of shape it has just become 'I am religious and I have strongly held beliefs therefore all those beliefs are religious'. Doesn't always add up to me.
bucolic_frolic
(43,062 posts)how's that for lack of freedom?
steve2470
(37,457 posts)What about that part of the Constitution that reads:
I guess you forgot about that part, huh ?
LudwigPastorius
(9,110 posts)People are just as free as they ever were to shout whatever disgusting slur, or flaming, bigoted opinion at the top of their fucking lungs, Sammy. (see: Trump supporters)
But, the rest of decent society is absolutely free to shun them, or fire them from their companies and institutions for being assholes. You know...like you?
still_one
(92,061 posts)ellie
(6,928 posts)on the Supreme Court? Jesus.
SunSeeker
(51,518 posts)progree
(10,893 posts)orleans
(34,042 posts)BLAME TRUMP
alito won't.
but i do!
LiberalFighter
(50,789 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)things is changing sammy, do try and keep up.
58Sunliner
(4,372 posts)SunSeeker
(51,518 posts)South Korea never had to shut down their businesses because they immediately implemented mass testing, contact tracing and targeted quarantines of the ill. They had a competent national leader, we didn't. 300,000 Americans are about to die because of Trump's malignant negligence.
And you're worried about bans on indoor gatherings without "justification"?
Fuck you Alito!
orwell
(7,769 posts)...is in one of the buildings where other "holy xtians" congregate. "God" would want you to risk the lives of your fellow congregants because worship is a dangerous enterprise.
"Blessed are those that kill their fellow worshipers who do so in the service of an invisible imaginary God."
- the Book of Alito 9:11
All the better to fleece the "flockers" of their hard earned filthy lucre and use masshole intimidation tactics so powerful among herd animals.
This type of "religious liberty" is more akin to religious tyranny.
I can't wait until he meets his maker and she tells him to go fuck off...
What a pathetic clown...
SunSeeker
(51,518 posts)usaf-vet
(6,163 posts)paleotn
(17,884 posts)I'm going to head over to your church on Sunday morning and during the height of the service, march to the front and loudly proclaim you're all a bunch of magical thinking wankers. And then go on a long screed about how your particular brand of magical thinking is destroying the planet and is an existential threat to human survival.
Like I've said before....Freedom? Freedom to do what?
Yeehah
(4,568 posts)and he's on the goddamned Supreme Court.
The USA is fucked up beyond recognition.
Grins
(7,199 posts)More like a disfavored and over-privileged right.
bucolic_frolic
(43,062 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Not too sure he could have made it without his longsuffering missus closeby to work the onlookers:
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Alito's wife leaves hearing room in tears
January 12, 2006 at 2:45 AM EST - Updated July 26 at 4:37 PM
(Washington-AP) Jan. 11, 2006 - At one point Wednesday, the wife of Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito left his confirmation hearings in tears.
Martha-Ann Bomgardner has been sitting behind her husband for hours of questioning over several days.
But she left as Alito was being questioned by Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
He asked the nominee if he is "a closet bigot." Alito said "no" and Graham responded "No sir, you're not."
Graham's question came following others by committee members about Alito's membership in a controversial Princeton alumni group that opposed the admission of women and minorities. He has said he doesn't recall anything about it.
Bomgardner returned to the hearing room after a committee break, smiling and holding her husband's hand.
https://www.wistv.com/story/4352042/alitos-wife-leaves-hearing-room-in-tears/
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Lindsey was doing that "thang" Republicans all do when Democrats questioning Republicans in hearings bring up their vicious beliefs for discussion: "Oh you poor poor baby. Did that dirty old Democrat attack you mercilessly?"
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Just had to say it.
Mickju
(1,797 posts)Fuck him!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)Let's build a reservation where all the Libertarians can move to so they can run around nude and totally unrestrained, with no laws or regulations and see how long they last.
KY.........
japple
(9,808 posts)him to shut the fuck up.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Sometimes you have to choose between liberty or death. Temporary loss of liberty vs permanently dead is a pretty easy decision for rational people.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)We should all have the right to exhale wherever we please.
llashram
(6,265 posts)think differently if he or a loved one gets it, but wouldnt hold my breath.
AllaN01Bear
(18,008 posts)and these idiots are going to be in the court for the rest of our lives ? ugh/
area51
(11,896 posts)If you don't like the US, move elsewhere, Alito.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)Hey Judge! It's a temporary 'adjustment' to protect all of our lives. The drafted and the enlisted had their Constitutional Rights totally buggered.
kimbutgar
(21,056 posts)What an a hole comment.
Harker
(13,985 posts)for cases.
Oscarthegreat
(121 posts)For 29 years I thought that Clarence Thomas was the most stupid Justice, ridiculously light weight and unqualified, but now I realize that compared to Alioto, Thomas is a legal luminary. Alioto is a prize idiot.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II in concentration camps was approximately 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific Coast. Sixty two percent of those detained were United States citizens.
Justice Alito: Wear your damn mask.
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)the flu epidemic killing millions I wouldn't be surprised.
KT2000
(20,568 posts)has resulted in curbs on LIFE for 240,000!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,148 posts)Is the ultimate denial of freedom.