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(26,485 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:32 PM Nov 2020

Georgia's secretary of state says fellow Republicans are pressuring him to... exclude legal ballots

Source: Washington Post

Georgia’s secretary of state says fellow Republicans are pressuring him to find ways to exclude legal ballots

By
Amy Gardner

By Amy Gardner
November 16, 2020 at 2:22 p.m. PST

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that he has come under increasing pressure in recent days from fellow Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), to question the validity of legally cast absentee ballots in an effort to reverse President Trump’s narrow loss in the state.

In a wide-ranging interview about the 2020 election, Raffensperger expressed exasperation with a string of baseless allegations coming from Trump and his allies about the integrity of the Georgia results, including claims that Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado-based manufacturer of Georgia’s voting machines, is a “leftist” company with ties to Venezuela that engineered thousands of Trump votes not to be counted.

The atmosphere has grown so contentious, Raffensperger said, that both he and his wife, Tricia, have received death threats in recent days, including a text to him that read, “You better not botch this recount. Your life depends on it.”

“Other than getting you angry, it’s also very disillusioning,” Raffensperger said of the threats, “particularly when it comes from people on my side of the aisle. Everyone that is working on this needs to elevate their speech. We need to be thoughtful and careful about what we say.” He said he reported the threats to state authorities.

The pressure on Raffensperger, who has bucked his party in defending the state’s voting process, comes as Georgia is in the midst of a laborious hand recount of roughly 5 million ballots. President-elect Joe Biden has a 14,000-vote lead in the initial count.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brad-raffensperger-georgia-vote/2020/11/16/6b6cb2f4-283e-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html



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Georgia's secretary of state says fellow Republicans are pressuring him to... exclude legal ballots (Original Post) swag Nov 2020 OP
A principled Republican! Laelth Nov 2020 #1
They do exist. LisaL Nov 2020 #5
Hard to pick them out among all the ratfuckers Major Nikon Nov 2020 #48
I know, this just messes my head UP! Leghorn21 Nov 2020 #10
Except for the "both sides" need to elevate their thoughts bs. The Dems are not issuing death niyad Nov 2020 #19
I saw that. He just had to sneak that in there. AleksS Nov 2020 #28
Yes they Rebl2 Nov 2020 #27
He's got the whole world looking over his shoulder. Transparency is the easy route for him. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #34
"A principled Republican!" You wont find any in the House or Senate as they sold their souls. cstanleytech Nov 2020 #45
He isn't, really. He just seems that way by way of contrast. Politicub Nov 2020 #46
Couldn't this be constituted as inference in the election process? nt dware Nov 2020 #2
Good point! burrowowl Nov 2020 #24
Have I mentioned how much I hate the GOP? Blue Owl Nov 2020 #3
I hate 'em more than you. I wish awful, unspeakable things upon that party. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #17
This should not go unanswered! Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #4
If true, and I have no doubt it is, dware Nov 2020 #7
Of course it is. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #9
I'm sorry a sitting Senator did what? SomedayKindaLove Nov 2020 #6
mcturtle probably knows . .. .. Iliyah Nov 2020 #8
He needs to call that voter fraud hotline and report these republicans Ohioboy Nov 2020 #11
Give it up, Lindsey, it's done, just GIVE IT UP! rickyhall Nov 2020 #12
I suspect the "pressure " will yield the opposite of what they want...he will stand firm ashredux Nov 2020 #13
He has no choice, it's his reputation on the line. groundloop Nov 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2020 #15
He actually called out Lindsay hotdamn00 Nov 2020 #18
I think he should accede to their requests. warmfeet Nov 2020 #16
Rod Blagojevich served 7 years for less. nt live love laugh Nov 2020 #53
A few of them that may have a back bone and a few morals left. IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #20
Seems to that this is federal election interference. Has to be laws against this. IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #21
Here is the "Um duh!" moment BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #22
If it weren't for those legal ballots Trump would get a second term. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #23
Get Rudy on this right way!! Zambero Nov 2020 #25
Definitely a profile in courage! ananda Nov 2020 #26
He or Stacy Abrams should ask immediately for an FBI investigation. benfranklin1776 Nov 2020 #29
Wow & he says that Out loud! Cha Nov 2020 #30
Co-Conspirator Lyndsey Graham. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #31
Maybe we should take a look at the South Carolina ballots. halfulglas Nov 2020 #32
Why is a Senator from South Carolina inserting himself gldstwmn Nov 2020 #33
If miss lindsey can not deliver Georgia to 45 truthisfreedom Nov 2020 #35
Calling for civility in the republican party... JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #36
+1 MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #40
THIS, RIGHT HERE, Lou Is Nov 2020 #37
He's such an asshat. William769 Nov 2020 #38
Hope police/FBI have tapped the phones of Raffensperger - it's a criminal offense to threaten an iluvtennis Nov 2020 #39
I feel like we need a way to track SPDem Nov 2020 #41
And by nice SPDem Nov 2020 #43
K&R MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #42
This is beyond exasperating. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #44
And them up. Lock him up. Nov 2020 #47
The GOP are still trying to find a way to steal it. Jarqui Nov 2020 #49
It's obvious to me why Graham has gone so bat-shit crazy. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #50
The threats against his family is so sickening. riversedge Nov 2020 #51
The Senate is at stake more so than Trump. It's not just about Trump. nt live love laugh Nov 2020 #52

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
10. I know, this just messes my head UP!
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:51 PM
Nov 2020

In a good way, a very good way!!

Meanwhile, he’s getting DEATH THREATS

Oh and fuck off Lindsay, you sniveling little nosy scumbucket

niyad

(113,066 posts)
19. Except for the "both sides" need to elevate their thoughts bs. The Dems are not issuing death
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:10 PM
Nov 2020

threats, sir. Other than that, he does indeed appear to have some principals.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
28. I saw that. He just had to sneak that in there.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:47 PM
Nov 2020

Sure, republicans are sending me and my wife death threats, but really both sides are the real problem.

No sir. The side making the death threats is the problem. Period. End. Stop.

Rebl2

(13,469 posts)
27. Yes they
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:40 PM
Nov 2020

do exist. More like republicans from many, many years ago. This type of republican should be applauded. I may not agree with their political views, but I appreciate them standing up and doing the right thing.

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
34. He's got the whole world looking over his shoulder. Transparency is the easy route for him.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:15 PM
Nov 2020

Modern republicans are not principled until they aren't republicans.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
46. He isn't, really. He just seems that way by way of contrast.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 10:23 PM
Nov 2020

I hope this is a harbinger to a fissure in the GOP.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
4. This should not go unanswered!
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:40 PM
Nov 2020

If we can get proof this happened, especially with Lindsey Graham, we should start proceedings to remove him!

SomedayKindaLove

(528 posts)
6. I'm sorry a sitting Senator did what?
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:43 PM
Nov 2020

Tried to interfere and influence the audit of a federal election?

Maybe we should raise 8M and do a state audit of the SC Senate race.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
14. He has no choice, it's his reputation on the line.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 07:36 PM
Nov 2020

From a political standpoint he can't have any large discrepancies in the vote count which would indicate incompetence. tRump, Moscow Mitch, and Miss Lindsey don't give a hell who they throw under the bus, but some people need to keep their reputations intact.

Response to groundloop (Reply #14)

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
16. I think he should accede to their requests.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:03 PM
Nov 2020

I hope it is very blatant in its partisanship. The courts, and the voters, will parse this all out.

We will win.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
21. Seems to that this is federal election interference. Has to be laws against this.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:15 PM
Nov 2020

Team Biden needs to get their lawyers on this. Leave no stone unturned.

BumRushDaShow

(128,483 posts)
22. Here is the "Um duh!" moment
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:15 PM
Nov 2020
“Other than getting you angry, it’s also very disillusioning,” Raffensperger said of the threats, “particularly when it comes from people on my side of the aisle. Everyone that is working on this needs to elevate their speech. We need to be thoughtful and careful about what we say.” He said he reported the threats to state authorities.


His "side of the aisle" calls complaints about their nonsensical rhetoric "demanding they be 'politically correct'" and then they will tell him to "grow a thicker skin".

His party has been "talking" extremist like this, loudly and in earnest, since at least 2010 with the rise of the teabaggers and "teh crazies". And the average Republican sat back and let them do it and any that finally had enough of the childishness and tried to call them out on it, found out that it was too late, and the loons went about primarying them, installing even crazier ones.

benfranklin1776

(6,443 posts)
29. He or Stacy Abrams should ask immediately for an FBI investigation.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:59 PM
Nov 2020

As this is a federal offense. Once open the Biden Justice Department can seek an indictment and prosecute the case. Treasonous bastards! 🤬🤬

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
32. Maybe we should take a look at the South Carolina ballots.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:11 PM
Nov 2020

The way Lindsey Graham felt entitled to question if the Georgia SOS couldn't do this for the party, maybe we should see whether Lindsey has been benefiting from this questioning of the legal mail in ballots his state might have done this favor for him.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
36. Calling for civility in the republican party...
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:24 PM
Nov 2020

...is like teaching my dog to drive a car. All he knows is how to chase one.

 

Lou Is

(23 posts)
37. THIS, RIGHT HERE,
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:25 PM
Nov 2020

is grounds for 1) Georgia being awarded to Biden by default, and 2) Lindsey Graham's expulsion from the Senate.

iluvtennis

(19,834 posts)
39. Hope police/FBI have tapped the phones of Raffensperger - it's a criminal offense to threaten an
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:27 PM
Nov 2020

elected official.

Also am very happy the Raffensperger is reporting this - he's been all over CNN today.

Rethugs are nothing but a gang of cheating thugs.

SPDem

(44 posts)
41. I feel like we need a way to track
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:36 PM
Nov 2020

which Republicans have fully crossed to the dark side and which may be redeemable. On a national level. Or maybe I just love lists.

But honestly we could cross link their transgressions or, more rarely, proof that they still have souls. This guy is on the nice list.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,559 posts)
44. This is beyond exasperating.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 09:38 PM
Nov 2020

It's disheartening. American "leaders" are really setting a hell of an example, aren't they? If you don't like the result, demand a do-over and cheat. FML

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
49. The GOP are still trying to find a way to steal it.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 12:34 AM
Nov 2020

It's going to be tough to heal the country.
I will never get over behavior like this.
Never.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
50. It's obvious to me why Graham has gone so bat-shit crazy.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:26 AM
Nov 2020

He is not stupid. He knows that when trump loses, the vindictive SOB will release what he has on Graham. Because if trump is going down so is everyone else he can manage.

I don’t know what it is, but it can’t be minor.

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