Two MI GOP Election Officials Now Want to 'Rescind' Their Vote Approving Wayne County Results

[pat_k]

Source: MEDIAite

On Tuesday night, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann initially voted against certification, deadlocking the county board in a 2 – 2 tie, which would’ve pushed the vote certification up to a state board for review. The shocking move ignited a fierce, public backlash and over the course of a three-hour public meeting, the pair ultimately changed their minds, endorsing a second, unanimous vote validating the vote, which included hundreds of thousands of votes for President-elect Joe Biden from majority African-American Detroit.

But almost exactly 24 hours later, Palmer disputed the promises she was told she received from one of her Democratic canvass board colleagues. She claims that, contrary to what she was told on Tuesday, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson has not pledged to conduct a audit of the county’s votes to clear up the minor clerical errors found.
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It’s not clear if this affidavit will have any effect on a certification vote that has been closed and registered with the state. At least one report cited the canvass board’s Democratic vice chair saying the vote was final since, earlier on Wednesday, the state finished its full certification of the 2020 vote in all 83 counties.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/breaking-two-mi-gop-election-officials-now-want-to-rescind-their-vote-approving-wayne-county-results/

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[patricia92243]

1. This would start a precidence. Every canvasser that did not like

the way a vote was going would just rescind their approval.

[Greybnk48]

2. Their 15 minutes is over.

They need to go the fuck back to their respective farms or minimarts, or wherever they usually work.

[Orange Buffoon]

3. What about the other guy?

There's nothing about him in the story, just Monica. His vote would also be needed to monkey wrench it.

[mr_lebowski]

5. He's a full-blown racist so I'd imagine if Monica is allowed to do this he would as well (nt)

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Palmer. "Monica" is not our friend. . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Palmer, not "Monica". She is not our friend or endeared to us. . . . nt

[dalton99a]

22. William Hartmann is a rabid racist.

[ck4829]

4. Hmm, I wonder what that part, "I certify under penalty of perjury", means

[RandySF]

6. Bensen made it clear on MSNBC that her oddice would look over the Detroit City Clerk's work.

[RandySF]

7. The State Board is up next.

Same party makeup. They meet next week.

[McCamy Taylor]

8. Probably threatened by right wingers

[kwijybo]

10. The right wingers are claiming they and there families were threatened by the left

and that's the only reason they changed their vote in the first place.

[RandiFan1290]

19. Welcome Back to DU

trump lost!

[pat_k]

27. It was rightfully outraged poll workers and public they felt "threatened" by.

For three hours, an obscure county board in Michigan was at the center of U.S. politics

After the vote, the two Republicans had to face a lineup of poll workers, clerks and voters, who berated them for declining to certify an election in which 878,000 people had voted.

After three hours of anger, the Republicans agreed to a compromise, and Wayne County’s election was certified after all.

Their experience signaled the enormous pressure that Trump and his Republican allies have put on the once-obscure offices and officers that administer American elections, by asking them to give legal weight to his outlandish claims.

In this case, it also demonstrated the mighty pushback that can arise from voters when those officers appear to give Trump what he wants.

Inside the Wayne County annex building in downtown Detroit, the board members took their seats at the front of the room. They were divided, politically and literally. Two White Republicans sat on the left. Two Black Democrats sat on the right. Between each one was a clear plexiglass divider, a measure to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

[madaboutharry]

9. This is a sickness.

[raccoon]

13. I sincerely hope they won't be allowed to do that. Nt

[bucolic_frolic]

14. This is a psychological jiu-jitsu game to support Trump - yield and then reverse

Classic move, like yielding to your enemy for a split second to relax his energy, then slamming hard into the void you created.

[mr_lebowski]

24. Just like Rudy and his dropping of a big part of PA case, supposedly because they were

'being threatened and harassed'.

Just like the Erie, PA poll worker with the bullshit story about post-dating ballots ... recanted his story when the big bad FBI threatened him, then the next day put out a video saying he never recanted.

It's a tactic, and it's being coordinated. Bannon is behind all these I'd wager.

[sinkingfeeling]

15. MF45 said they were harassed. I think he might be the one doing it.

[pat_k]

28. "harrassed" in a public meeting by angry poll workers and public

They faced outrage in a public meeting -- you know, like any public office holder must at times face.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142631887#post27

[Bigredhunk]

16. -

I wish all these fux would follow their cult leader to an island somewhere so we can get on with things.

[Maeve]

17. These stupid games deserve to be slapped down in court

They are played for the adoration of the shitgibbon and his cult, not for the good of the country.

[SKKY]

18. Call me silly, but I just can't trust someone...

...whose printed name and signed name are pretty much exactly the same.

[DownriverDem]

20. Can they do that?

I live in a Wayne County suburb. We have an awesome SOS. I hope this can be stopped. If not, the vote moves to the State Board of Canvassers. Of course there are 2 repubs on it and I'm sure they will make trouble too. I hate repubs.

[Baitball Blogger]

21. Someone obviously offered them money.

[LymphocyteLover]

23. Trump called them

"In Wayne County, the two Republican canvassers at first balked at certifying the vote, winning praise from Trump, and then reversed course after widespread condemnation. A person familiar with the matter said Trump reached out to the canvassers, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, on Tuesday evening after the revised vote to express gratitude for their support. Then, on Wednesday, Palmer and Hartmann signed affidavits saying they believe the county vote “should not be certified.” "

Seems grossly wrong if not criminal.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-local-elections-arizona-michigan-29da6aac9cc41e47f3095855e7af7031

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Yup - breaking on WaPo too

Wayne County Republicans ask to ‘rescind’ their votes certifying election results

ByTom Hamburger, Kayla Ruble and Tim Elfrink
November 19, 2020 at 1:44 a.m. EST


DETROIT — President Trump called a GOP canvassing board member in Wayne County who announced Wednesday she wanted to rescind her decision to certify the results of the presidential election, the member said in a message to The Washington Post Thursday. “I did receive a call from President Trump, late Tuesday evening, after the meeting,” Monica Palmer, one of two Republican members of the four-member Wayne County canvassing board, told The Post. “He was checking in to make sure I was safe after hearing the threats and doxing that had occurred.”

The call came after an hours-long meeting on Tuesday in which the four-member canvassing board voted to certify the results of the Nov. 3 election, a key step toward finalizing President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the state. In affidavits signed Wednesday evening, the two GOP members of the four-member Wayne County Board of Canvassers allege they were improperly pressured into certifying the election and accused Democrats of reneging on a promise to audit votes in Detroit.

In an interview, Palmer estimated that she talked with Trump for about two minutes Tuesday. She said she felt no pressure to change her vote from him. “His concern was about my safety and that was really touching. He is a really busy guy and to have his concern about my safety was appreciated,” she told The Post.

Asked if they discussed the presidential vote count, she said: “It’s hard for me to describe. There was a lot of adrenalin and stress going on. There were general comments about different states but we really didn’t discuss the details of the certification.” Asked again about possible pressure from such a call, Palmer said: “It was not pressure. It was genuine concern for my safety,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/19/wayne-county-rescind-certifying-election/

[pat_k]

29. He was "concerned about my safety" sounds like a mafioso to me.

You know. "I'm just concerned. We sure wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you. This is a nice little business, but. . . "

[BumRushDaShow]

31. "sounds like a mafioso to me"

EXACTLY my thought when I found this story (almost included it in that post too)!

[world wide wally]

26. The master of chaos has a plan to confuse things so much that the Kangaroo Supreme Court will take

case and hand it to the Marmalade Menace.

[onetexan]

30. The Con isn't going to succeed but that won't stop him from trying to burn everything down on his

way out.