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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 03:49 PM Nov 2020

Rudy Giuliani Just Floated His Wildest Election Conspiracy Yet

Source: Vice News

Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s top campaign lawyer, laid out a string of baseless charges claiming that Joe Biden’s campaign had rigged the election in state after state Thursday afternoon, spinning out conspiracy theories that have already fallen apart in numerous court cases as he called for Biden’s clear election wins to be overturned in multiple states.

“It’s a common plan, it’s a common scheme, it comes directly from the Democrat Party and it comes from the candidate,” Giuliani claimed, arguing “mass cheating in this election” after accusing local officials from Atlanta, Detroit, Madison, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Phoenix and other cities of rigging the election in a coordinated conspiracy with Biden.

This wide-ranging conspiracy theory has fallen apart when actually tested in the courts, however. Trump’s campaign has failed to produce any actual evidence of widespread voter fraud in any of the states where they’re trying to overturn the election results. And they’ve lost more than two dozen cases, while scoring just one partial victory in a case that had to do with just a few hundred ballots.

Giuliani tried to brush by that losing streak, claiming all the judges were biased against the campaign too, even though both Democratic and GOP-appointed judges have thrown out the Trump campaign’s arguments.


Read more: https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3v4by/rudy-giuliani-just-floated-a-wild-conspiracy-theory-that-joe-biden-rigged-the-election-in-multiple-states
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Rudy Giuliani Just Floated His Wildest Election Conspiracy Yet (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2020 OP
That's his wildest yet? grumpyduck Nov 2020 #1
The Kraken that we have been promised turns out to be the ghost of Hugo Chavez Gothmog Nov 2020 #2
Hugo "back from the dead" Chavez helped to rig an election in America with communist money? Botany Nov 2020 #5
If a little Venzln money could rig the election, think what could be done w massive R moneybags. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #14
Well, according to Maduro, Chavez shows up once in a while as a bird, and the bird talks to him Escurumbele Nov 2020 #27
She released the Karen OriginalGeek Nov 2020 #22
That disclaimer should read, "This claim about election fraud is Bullshit!" Mr. Evil Nov 2020 #24
I would rather have an election rigged by communist money than mob money LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #26
Even tucker does not believe in the Kraken Gothmog Nov 2020 #37
nice opinion piece and analysis nt msongs Nov 2020 #3
Mass cheating means letting the brown people vote and then counting those votes. Botany Nov 2020 #4
The real conspiracy Wicked Blue Nov 2020 #6
I have a question for old Rudy. If Democrats are so brilliant they can cook up schemes to steal Vinca Nov 2020 #7
Sorry had to fix that title: Rudy Giuliani Just Floated His Wildest Erection Conspiracy Yet cayugafalls Nov 2020 #8
Well, all the GOP-appointed judges are Deep State. Appointed by Bush. Or something. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #9
Sounds like he's really earning the huge fees he's procon Nov 2020 #10
Since Biden is the candidate for the Democratic Party, Mme. Defarge Nov 2020 #11
The kraken has been release and I am having fun laughing at this silliness Gothmog Nov 2020 #12
How come I have to be on meds and they don't? TrogL Nov 2020 #40
Everyone is against us!!! Whaa!! wysimdnwyg Nov 2020 #13
Impeccable logic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #15
We should never allow conspiracy theorists anywhere near the White House ever again. Initech Nov 2020 #16
Giuliani has turned into a raving lunatic. He needs to be treated. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #17
There is something seriously wrong with that man's brain. pat_k Nov 2020 #18
He is getting paid 200k a day for this BS? McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #19
Projection bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #20
Bazinga!!! Talitha Nov 2020 #31
I thought the craziest on was that Venezuela, Warpy Nov 2020 #21
I'm sure Alito and Thomas agree.. mountain grammy Nov 2020 #23
Can someone sue this jerk? If he cannot provide proof of anything, he should be disbarred Escurumbele Nov 2020 #25
Rudy needs to up the entertainment value. Mr. Evil Nov 2020 #28
Sue all their asses, Joe world wide wally Nov 2020 #29
I see disbarment in the cards for these two for floating the most stupidest, craziest and SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #30
Flipped over to fox/Putin propaganda network earlier...and OMG ! Hulk Nov 2020 #32
Shit for brains proves it at last warmfeet Nov 2020 #33
His hair Rebl2 Nov 2020 #36
So when does the president get declared a vexatious litigant? jmowreader Nov 2020 #34
You know maybe they are doing this because they are going to be found out to have done some chowder66 Nov 2020 #35
LOL Gothmog Nov 2020 #38
The expert report relied on by Rugy and Sidney Powell confused Michigan and Minnessota Gothmog Nov 2020 #39

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
2. The Kraken that we have been promised turns out to be the ghost of Hugo Chavez
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 03:53 PM
Nov 2020

the idiot trump supporters have been gushing about a kraken that will be released and all Democrats will immediatedly agree that turmp won. It seems that this kraken is the ghost of Hugo Chavez who arose from the dead to vote for Joe Biden many millions of times


Botany

(70,447 posts)
5. Hugo "back from the dead" Chavez helped to rig an election in America with communist money?
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

Fucking nuts

Escurumbele

(3,378 posts)
27. Well, according to Maduro, Chavez shows up once in a while as a bird, and the bird talks to him
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:53 PM
Nov 2020

So maybe the bird has been able to learn some computer science all these years?

I hope she knows that Chavez is dead, she never mentioned "the late" Hugo Chavez, and supposedly the guy with the affidavit sat with Chavez...That must be Dr. Dolittle who can speak to animals, he can speak bird.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
22. She released the Karen
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:30 PM
Nov 2020

"Hello police? Is this the manager of police? Yes, brown people are messing up the election...I'll hold."

**barely contained laughter**

Botany

(70,447 posts)
4. Mass cheating means letting the brown people vote and then counting those votes.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 03:57 PM
Nov 2020

Giuliani claimed, arguing “mass cheating in this election” after accusing local officials from Atlanta, Detroit, Madison, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Phoenix and other cities of rigging the election in a coordinated conspiracy with Biden.

Wicked Blue

(5,819 posts)
6. The real conspiracy
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:02 PM
Nov 2020

was that all 80 million or so of us who were eligible to vote and could vote, did vote for Joe Biden.

(Shh, don't tell them)

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
7. I have a question for old Rudy. If Democrats are so brilliant they can cook up schemes to steal
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:08 PM
Nov 2020

presidential elections, why don't they bother to steal House and Senate seats as well? What the heck are we doing with 2 Senate seats to be decided in Georgia?

Mme. Defarge

(8,012 posts)
11. Since Biden is the candidate for the Democratic Party,
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:16 PM
Nov 2020

Mr. Giuliani is obviously accusing a different political party of cheating. N’est ce pas?

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
12. The kraken has been release and I am having fun laughing at this silliness
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:20 PM
Nov 2020

Here is a good explanation of the Kraken https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1996922/-Trump-legal-team-holds-a-press-conference-to-explain-how-Hugo-Chavez-stole-the-election-Yes-really

Giuliani then gave way to Sidney Powell, who demonstrated that when it comes to being disconnected from reality, this conference went to 12. Powell immediately veered away from trash can votes and right into how the election was really rigged by voting software written for Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez. Chavez, rather unexpectedly, is apparently very anti-Trump. (That’s really unexpected since he died in 2013.) But Powell launched into an emotional explanation of how "Our votes are counted in Germany and in Spain by a company owned by affiliates of Chavez and Maduro," and these companies are, of course, run by “the number two associate of George Soros.” As Powell went on, she also expressed how Cuba was involved, and how there was an “algorithm” that allowed this Venezuela-Jewish-Cuban cabal to define the values of votes. That algorithm that “probably flipped votes all over the country" because, according to Powell, “Donald Trump won in a landslide.”

Yes, she said that. This came right before the part where she explained that she also has an affidavit from someone who chatted about all this with Chavez (I am still not making this up) and that it was all approved by antifa. It was a Biden-Venezuelan-Jewish-Cuban-antifa conspiracy. And if you think she didn’t mention the Clinton Foundation in this … oh yes she did. All of these groups “had the election rigged for Mr. Biden,” said Powell. She went on to explain: “They can say a Biden vote counts 1.25 and a Trump vote counts 0.75, and that may be the numbers that were used here." All of this was explained to her by the Chavez chat man. Also, there is a server in Germany that is definitely connected. Though we don’t know how. So … just assume everyone not standing on the stage was a part of the conspiracy.

TrogL

(32,818 posts)
40. How come I have to be on meds and they don't?
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:53 PM
Nov 2020

I know I keep saying this but if I trotted this out in front of a medical health professional I'd be marched right in for a meds eval.

wysimdnwyg

(2,230 posts)
13. Everyone is against us!!! Whaa!!
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:21 PM
Nov 2020

Hey Rudy! If everyone is against you, doesn't it seem reasonable to think that would include more than half of the voters?

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
17. Giuliani has turned into a raving lunatic. He needs to be treated.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:57 PM
Nov 2020

Perhaps he and Trump could be roommates in the nearest psychiatric ward. They’re both loony.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
18. There is something seriously wrong with that man's brain.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:05 PM
Nov 2020

He is like a poor mentally ill person standing on a corner yelling his delusional beliefs at passersby.

Any outlet that gives this man a "soapbox" is just reinforcing his belief in his delusions, creating a feedback loop that just sends him deeper and deeper into his psychosis.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out he is following the "orders" of the voices in his head.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
21. I thought the craziest on was that Venezuela,
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:25 PM
Nov 2020

led by Hugo Chavez (who died in 2013) had specifically created Dominion software so it could be hacked to deprive Dumdum of his rightful place on the throne in 2020.

That's the nuttiest one I've heard so far, and I know people who feel compelled to send me QAnon stuff now and then.

It's really too bad medical staff are stretched so thin due to the ongoing pandemic. We could use a cadre of them with syringes full of antipsychotic drugs to make the rounds in DC. We could tell them it's an advance dose of a vaccine that is so great nobody outside government and executive suites will have access to it.

I might come out of retirement for that one.

Escurumbele

(3,378 posts)
25. Can someone sue this jerk? If he cannot provide proof of anything, he should be disbarred
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:47 PM
Nov 2020

to begin with, then sued, then put in jail.

What a horrible monster this guy is.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
30. I see disbarment in the cards for these two for floating the most stupidest, craziest and
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 07:06 PM
Nov 2020

unhinged election cheating mechanisms ever. Why they still have their licenses (if they even do, I heard that Rudi is not paid up on his Wash. DC license or whatever)...How are the courts even allowing them into the courtrooms? Rudi is basically pointing fingers at everybody now, local officials, Biden, voters, judges...who else is left by now to blame or throw into the mix w/ the other people and/or entities that they're blaming?

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
32. Flipped over to fox/Putin propaganda network earlier...and OMG !
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:16 PM
Nov 2020

This was one of the most bizarre press conferences I have ever seen. It was tailor made for the Qanon loons and the fringe idiots who are on a steady diet of fox/Putin BS 24/7, but it was a nut house. With the idiot bimbo who was on Real Time last week, it was some really desperate assholes. Does tRumpf have something on them? Are they being blackmailed?...cause they are so g'damned desperate, it's scary to watch. Somebody is going to pull the life support plug on Rudy...I know it for a fact...lol.

Rebl2

(13,462 posts)
36. His hair
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:38 PM
Nov 2020

dye is melting? Reminds me of an old episode of Frasier where his dad used cheap hair dye and when he sat by a fireplace it started melting.

chowder66

(9,055 posts)
35. You know maybe they are doing this because they are going to be found out to have done some
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:30 PM
Nov 2020

serious illegal shit during this election and they will use the arguments for their defense. So everything they are claiming the democrats did should be looked at in case the Republicans did it - which the chances are high because they always accuse others of what they have done themselves.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
39. The expert report relied on by Rugy and Sidney Powell confused Michigan and Minnessota
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 12:30 PM
Nov 2020

The expert report that is the basis on the fraud claims is fased on an idiot who did not know that Michigan and Minnesota are two different states. He was counting the population of towns in Minnesota, seeing they did not match Michigan towns, and finding fraud.


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