Trump team requests recount of Georgia's presidential race

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

President Donald Trump’s campaign requested a recount of votes in the Georgia presidential race on Saturday, a day after state officials certified results showing Democrat Joe Biden won the state, as his legal team presses forward with attacks alleging widespread fraud without proof.

Georgia’s results showed Biden beating Trump by 12,670 votes out of about 5 million cast, or 0.25%. State law allows a candidate to request a recount if the margin is less than 0.5%. Republican Gov. Brian Kemp formalized the state’s slate of 16 presidential electors.

The Trump campaign sent a hand-delivered letter to the secretary of state’s office requesting the recount in an election that has been fraught with unfounded accusations of fraud by Trump and his supporters.

A Trump legal team statement said: “Today, the Trump campaign filed a petition for recount in Georgia. We are focused on ensuring that every aspect of Georgia State Law and the U.S. Constitution are followed so that every legal vote is counted. President Trump and his campaign continue to insist on an honest recount in Georgia, which has to include signature matching and other vital safeguards.”



An officer in riot gear stands between supporters of President Donald Trump and counter protesters as the groups yell at each other outside of the Georgia State Capitol in Atlanta on Saturday, Nov. 21, 2020. (AP Photo/Ben Gray)


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[Rorey]

1. We've crossed over to WAY past RIDICULOUS

OrangeLOSER and his team are looking more pathetic with each passing day.

[olegramps]

11. I have come to actually despise every Republican including their ignorant constituency.

[Rorey]

14. Me too, mostly

I haven't quite reached that level with my next door neighbor.

I knew she was a Republican, but in the 16 years we've been neighbors, we've just never talked politics. That is, until a couple of weeks ago. Right after the election she called me and brought up politics for the first time ever. I don't think she knew I'm a Democrat. I know the affiliation of everyone on my street because I like to be aware before opening my mouth in small-talk neighborly conversations, so I looked everyone up.

Anyway, she said that she doesn't like OrangeLoser's character, but she thought our relationships with foreign governments were improved under him. It's a good thing this was a phone conversation, instead of in person. I did bring up his hate speech, and she couldn't disagree.

I know at her age, and with her background, she won't change, and I'm not going to try to reason with her because there's just no point. But I could actually feel the tension when she realized my views.

We haven't talked since then, but that's really not unusual. We're on friendly terms, waving to each other and yard conversations during nice weather, but we only really have long conversations about a half a dozen times a year.

We usually talk a little more over the holidays, so I'll see if she contacts me this week or answers if I call her. I care about her, and I know she'd be devastated if we had a disagreement about anything. It was just obvious that she gets her information from right wing sources.

I think she kind of wanted to bring up my neighbor on the other side of me, who has a Biden/Harris sign in her yard, so I'd commiserate with her. We're mostly Democrats on my street, so she's probably feeling kind of isolated right now. It'll pass. I hope.

[pandr32]

27. You should probably encourage her to check international news sites

Her idea that "relationships with foreign governments were improved under him" might crash in the face of how ridiculously DT is seen by others. Even Russian sources mock him as a cow that needs to be milked.
DT is seen as a buffoon that needed to be tolerated until he lost--which he did, and now most foreign leaders have expressed looking forward to working with Biden.

[DonaldsRump]

31. The only ones which saw improvement

were Putin, Kim Jung Un (who took full advantage of Trump's incompetence), and a few other fascists like Jair Bolsonaro.

We are a pariah or a laughingstock with most every other country.

Joe Biden will change that the second he takes office.

[Rorey]

45. If we had a more intense relationship I'd do that

I just don't see the point of putting her through any stress. She's been having a lot of health and emotional issues, and I don't think I need to contribute to that.

I really was just shocked to hear her say that. I've had every argument there is to have about OrangeLOSER with my now ex-husband, and I finally reached the conclusion that those folks are just "gone". When my ex started going on and on about how brilliant trump is, I just quit talking to him about it. I knew he'd lost his mind at that point.

[pandr32]

47. I met a sweet old lady who was much the same.

She worked at a local Costco doing demos before the pandemic. She and many of the others worked their to supplement their SS in order to make it through the month. She had voted Republican her whole life and when I told her that Trump was targeting SS she answered sweetly, "Oh--he wouldn't do that!" and so I moved on.

[pandr32]

48. Worked there! Not their!

[Rorey]

50. As passionate as I am

Sometimes we have to let some things pass.

I'm in Colorado, and we're Blue. Trying to change my neighbor's mind would likely ruin the neighborly relationship that we have, and I just don't see any point in doing that. I love where I live and don't want to change the tone of things here.

[olegramps]

32. The respect of foreign nations is in the trash can. Just like your neighbor's intelligence.

[Rorey]

43. It's those "alternative facts" that have her messed up

I'm sure she got her "facts" from FauxNews.

[DENVERPOPS]

40. also, preposterous?????

or ludicrous or laughable or un-fathomable

[634-5789]

2. Another reason to get BOTH DEMS elected in Georgia!

All hands on deck! Save Democracy!

[Omaha Steve]

7. Here is the DU link to donate to the Senate races

Contribute here: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/dufor2020runoff

[Croney]

3. Signature matching? Dream on.

[oldsoftie]

5. How can they be so stupid to think thats even possible??

First of all, we have a secret ballot
Second, arent the signature envelopes discarded after the initial match when opened?

[iluvtennis]

33. The GA Sec of State has repeated many times that the signature envelopes were discarded

after envelopes matched to online voter registration info.

Another recount is more trump madness.

[oldsoftie]

44. And even dumber, Trump has to PAY for it

[DeminPennswoods]

35. I don't think so

But they are seperated from the secrecy envelopes so there is no way to match a ballot with an envelop. Secret ballot and all that pesky stuff.

In Wisc, they pulled a random ballot when the election board determined the mailed ballot should be disqualified. If they did that in GA, it's entirely possible a disqualified Dem voter might result in a Trump voted ballot being randomly pulled.

[iluvtennis]

49. OK, thanks for the clarification. nt

[oldsoftie]

4. While perfectly within the law, its a ridiculous waste of our tax money.

Since we already DID a hand recount just last week.

[doc03]

8. How can it be perfectly legal when the vote has been certified? When is this bs finished

we couldn't even get a recount in Florida in 2000 when there was a few hundred votes difference. If the
Republicans keep this up I bet they will eventually pull some votes out of a dumpster box and flip the state.

[oldsoftie]

25. Because Ga law says if the difference is less than .5% you can ask for one.

It is less than that, so he legally can request it.
Its also legal for him to hit himself in the head with a hammer, but its still stupid.

I'm sure the law is assuming that this would be the FIRST recount. Thats why its such a waste of money; the next recount wont change the difference by more than a handful of votes. if that.

[DENVERPOPS]

41. I agree

I suspect something very sinister with all this stalling they are doing...........

[doc03]

6. How does this keep going on after the vote has been certified? Can they actually do

this? Every day its the same thing I wonder if the media is full of s--t or what. I hear the votes are certified in one state
then it's only the counties, the SOS or Governor has to do it. When is it a gawd damn done deal? This back and forth bullshit has gone on for entire week when originally I head it was to be done Monday.

[Holgar]

16. They're trying to reject our reality and substitute their own.

It's how trmp does business; it's how he's always done business. They want the election to go to the House, where the state delegations hold a 26-24 Republican advantage. They think they can do it by calling the state counts into question.

The request to recount in Georgia is most likely a fail. Georgia has already done a hand recount, it's long past the time for signature matching, and the governor has certified the count. [buzzer sounds] Next!

[christx30]

42. " They're trying to reject our reality and substitute their own."

For the last 8 months, they’ve been trying to do that with science. Now they’re trying to do that with Science’s older brother, Math.

[Laelth]

9. He's entitled to the recount. Fine.

But it’s impossible to signature match, at this point, and he’s demanding that too. That sets him up to deny the legitimacy of the vote if he loses the recount. Not cool.

-Laelth

[doc03]

10. The Republicans I know are absolutely confident he is going

to come out winning. They figure it will go to the SCOTUS eventually.

[Laelth]

13. I am more worried about WI.

Georgia will do a statewide recount (no equal protection violation according to Bush v. Gore in GA). WI is doing selected county recounts, and that was the basis of Bush’s victory in Bush v. Gore—selective recounts deny all citizens equal protection.

In Georgia, Raffensperger has been great. Everything has been done by the book, and it’s hard to imagine the SCOTUS overturning the final, certified result. I suspect your Republican “friends” are in denial and are engaging in wishful thinking.

-Laelth

[Salviati]

29. I don't see how that helps team trump at all.

It was their side that specifically requested a partial recount, because that's all they wanted to pay for. If it does result in overturning the initial results, which it won't, all the prior ruling will do will give Biden a justification to challenge it.

[Rorey]

15. So sad

They're being played by the POS. He knows he's not going to win. This is all positioning.

[IsItJustMe]

34. I would be handing them out mental health pamphlets along with referral to mental health workers.

Goes to show you how misinformed a person is when they sit around all day watching fox entertainment news.
Sad.

[EarthFirst]

21. Re: signature match

On edit: misunderstood the signature match challenge

[Laelth]

22. In Georgia, it's too late.

In order to protect the “secret ballot,” signed envelopes HAD to be detached from the enclosed ballots once the original signatures were matched (and they were). Then the signed ballot envelopes were literally thrown away (to preserve the secrecy of the ballot). There’s no way to do signature matching again in Georgia, as I understand it.

-Laelth

[EarthFirst]

23. Thanks. nt

[EarthFirst]

24. Thanks. nt

[IsItJustMe]

36. LOL

They ask for something that's not possible. So did the governor of Georgia, and he knows better.

[DinahMoeHum]

12. They wanna get their asses beat again? Please proceed.

[Grokenstein]

39. "Count again! Again! AGAIN!!"

"Over and over! Until we get our way!!"

[Blue Owl]

17. The party of insanity

[Paul Politerude]

18. Another 59 Days of This SHIT

Maybe we should start having our elections and inaugurations in the same year.

[beachbumbob]

19. as expected as no recount could be asked for by a candidate until after the certifcation

another wasted effort but hey, still doesn;t change the outcome

[RobertDevereaux]

20. Howsabout we recount the fried synapses in your brain?

[Historic NY]

26. He'll be a 3 time loser

[Happy Hoosier]

28. Oh joyous day!!!!

I get to watch Trump lose Georgia a THIRD time!

[efhmc]

30. Don't the taxpayers of Georgia Have to pay for this again?

Wonder what the total cost will be this time.

[IsItJustMe]

37. I like your positive attitude. Bet yeah, your right. Kinda like Groundhog Day.

[BlueWavePsych]

38. Wasn't GA already certified?

[LisaL]

46. Yes, it's certified. But per their rules, Trump can ask for a recount after the results have been

certified.