Secret Service members asked about protecting soon-to-be-former president Trump full time in Florida

[sabra]

Source: ABC News

As states begin to certify election results that seal a victory for President-elect Joe Biden, even though Donald Trump hasn't conceded there is one clear sign his post-presidency life is taking shape: Secret Service agents in the president's detail are being asked whether they're interested in transferring to Palm Beach, Florida, sources have told ABC News.

The Secret Service's Miami field office also has begun looking at physical reinforcements to Mar-a-Largo, the president's golf club to which he refers as "the winter White House," the sources added. These moves are considered unofficial as Trump has yet to concede to Biden.

Trump, a longtime New Yorker born in the borough of Queens, changed his residency to Florida last year and voted there via absentee ballot earlier this month.

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Renovations to living quarters expected to be occupied by Trump and first lady Melania Trump are underway, ahead of when they'll be living there full time after the Jan. 20 inauguration, sources familiar with the planning told ABC News.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-service-members-asked-protecting-president-trump-full/story?id=74364989

[karin_sj]

1. What a horrid job that would be

[RKP5637]

4. I would quit if forced to do it. n/t

[DENVERPOPS]

46. It was rumored during "W"s administration

That seven secret service agents quit because they were tired of being horrifically mistreated by Jenna Bush, and the SS wouldn't transfer them to another detail......so the flat out quit......

[RKP5637]

47. Could be some this time too! n/t

[azureblue]

94. wait a minute

I thought one of the conditions of the sale of Mar a Lago was that no one will be allowed to live there
https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/05/trump-might-be-in-big-trouble-for-registering-mar-a-lago-as-new-his-voter-address/

At the time of purchasing Mar-a-Largo in 1993, Trump signed agreements with the town of 8,000 that he was opening a club, not a residence. The town wary about new water traffic in converting Mar-a-Lago from a single-family residence to a private club owned by a corporation that Trump controls.

The agreement also bans members from using the club’s guest rooms for longer than seven days at a time three times a year. Trump’s attorney at the time, Paul Rampell, assured town council members that he would not live at the club.

[pfitz59]

105. I hope the town rescinds his tax evasement er easement...

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2020/09/30/trump-taxes-deal-behind-palm-beach-mar-lago-tax-break-veiled-irs-review/3572915001/

[louis-t]

107. You mean he lied? He also used it as his residence to vote.

And he's not allowed to do that. He voted illegally.

[underpants]

2. I'd guess that would be a pretty sweet assignment

Florida and hanging out mostly on a golf course all day.

[catbyte]

8. Under normal circumstances, lol. I've read that the whole family treats them like servants, not

highly-trained professionals there to ensure their physical safety. What a crap job that would be.

[pfitz59]

106. They can be "the silent service"

The agents have the responsibility to refuse demands for service outside their charter. Quiet and observant. Unencumbered and ready for action. Strict professionalism. Could be a great job..

[GulfCoast66]

121. Once he is not president they are there to protect him.

Not fetch things for him. I’m sure they are looking forward to telling him ‘no, sir’.

[SergeStorms]

70. But having to guard the Trump family?

I don't care where you put them, or how much you pay to watch them, there couldn't possibly be any circumstances that would make being around the Trump family palatable.

[underpants]

72. I meant down time.

And hanging out on a golf course isn’t that bad.

[SergeStorms]

76. Oh, OK.

It would still be in the back of my mind that I'd have to return to guarding them sometime. I couldn't deal with that. You must have a much stronger constitution that my own, underpants.

[mdbl]

87. It would not be ok if i had to hang out on a trump golf course

[Dave Starsky]

114. Spending all day, every day on a humid Florida course with Fathead...

Sounds like hell to me. It's not like you can play the game or have any fun. You just have to stand there all day and tell him how masterful he is, like Judge Smails in Caddyshack.

[Grimelle]

83. As of januray 21st

Only trump gets protection.
and that IMO is enough....SMH

[MojoWrkn]

85. Let Corrections Officers "guard" him!

[Lasher]

92. Former presidents are entitled to lifetime Secret Service protection for themselves and their wives

Their children are entitled to this protection until they turn 16.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Presidents_Act

[ResistantAmerican17]

103. What Secret service agent would want to a cell mate of jr's???

[AZ8theist]

73. Is Mar-a-Bed Bug being turned in to a federal penitentiary?

Cuz that's where he's going to reside soon....

[machoneman]

116. Yes, same as my thoughts. Yet, I hadn't thought about this: if they say yes, they must...

...uproot their family, some with kids, to cover Trumpy in that shit-hole club. Sad that this would interfere with their lives.

[C_U_L8R]

3. If Trump leaves the country to live somewhere else

say for example, to avoid prosecution.
Would he still receive Secret Service protection?

[underpants]

17. Good question

I wouldn’t think so but I don’t know.

[Grokenstein]

29. He's a multimillionaire big-tipper who pays all his bills (/s)

...so let him hire his own protection.

[alfredo]

57. I'm sure he has "friends" in the Russian mob that want him alive to pay off his debts

I'm sure if he is asked nice, he will divulge what national secrets he was allowed access.

[DENVERPOPS]

95. Exactly

Trump and His Spawn have probably been working 24/7 during these past weeks, under the cloak of this election stalling, to compile any and every piece of Top Secret Intelligence they can steal. They will need something to grift to foreign countries in the future.
For sure, they are also probably burning out paper shredders right and left. (Remember the large truck sized paper shredder that was backed up to the front door of Cheney's residence for days on end once they knew they were on the way out????)

[alfredo]

111. trump doesn't save any documents. That might have changed. Everything must go to the Nat. Archives.

[onetexan]

77. i was thinking if the Con was thrown into prison does he get SS protection?

[global1]

5. So His Failure To Concede And Get On With The Transition Is Having A Personal Impact On Him.....

It's hampering the work of the Secret Service and their post-presidency protection of him.

[alfredo]

58. He wanted his own private protection at first, not trusting the SS.

[Progressive Jones]

101. I remember that. "Deep State", and all that B.S. nt

[Bayard]

6. Not Russia?

[GoneOffShore]

7. What if no one wants to go? Maybe they should recruit Dan Bongino.

He'd love to clean up after Diaper Donnie.

[Tommymac]

24. Hire The Proud Boys.

[Botany]

9. No need got a nice little place in Colorado for him and his family

[bluevoter4life]

26. We don't want him here

I hear Moscow or Pyongyang is nice this time of year.

[Grokenstein]

30. Any rooms available at Gitmo?

Maybe he can get a spot in one of those swanky Chicago "Black Sites."
Do they offer family rates?

[Botany]

35. That is the Super Max in Colorado

he would not be a problem there.

[DENVERPOPS]

39. Perfect for Trump, Melania, and his spawn.

Absolutely no communication with outside world, TV, Radio, Internet, Computer, Phone........Only one person per cell, and 1/2 hour a day, under escort to play yard.

The only problem is, that there are not enough cells for his entire administration, cabinet, advisors, Republican Senators, etc

After six months of confinement in Super Max, McVeigh BEGGED to be executed. The judge accommodated him......McNichols is still there.......

[niyad]

104. Exactly! I don't want to be within thousands of miles of him, let alone just down the road! Off-

planet?? But our friends in the multiverse might consider that bad manners.

[generalbetrayus]

67. I, for one, would love to be the first one to welcome him to the Florence, CO, Supermax.

The view is lovely from the highway running in front of the prison, if you love loose sand, cactus, and scrub brush, although he wouldn't have even that view available to him. The Supermax has only the finest people.

[Botany]

75. The mother fucker sold out The United States of America

fuck him

[Chainfire]

10. It would make a lot more sense to protect him in a much more secure facility. ;)

And, hey, he loves big beautiful walls!

[Mike 03]

11. Guantanamo Bay works.

[CentralMass]

14. He'd even be able to wear some nice jumpsuits that match his skin color.

[mr_lebowski]

16. Aren't people kept in actual cages there?

It's PERFECT!

[stopdiggin]

12. pretty sure Melania won't be living there

(for long anyway) --- --- --- ---

[Kahuna]

59. LOL! nt

[MyOwnPeace]

60. Serious question.......

if she "goes her own way......."

are we responsible for her too?

[stopdiggin]

110. I think that's entirely likely

sorry for the heartburn.
----- -----

[procon]

13. Trump can't give up the limelight.

He won't stay in Florida when he can move back to his NYC Penthouse. There's no posh downtown in Florida with skyscrapers, gourmet restaurants, designer shopping, fashionable parties and top notch entertainment.

Trump wants to be seen. All the newspapers, TV networks are there, all the wealthy elites, the notorious international strongmen, the money... Everything he craves is in NYC.

[underpants]

15. Yeah but anyone he wants to be seen with doesn't want to be seen with him

He loves hobknobbing with celebrities but now he is a pariah. It’s a really bad idea to be seen near him or with him in any way.

He can hold court at the omelette station and putting green in his little fiefdom there in Florida. He wants to go back to NYC (god knows Melania does) but he really can’t.

[Siwsan]

51. Well SOME celebrities might still want to be seen with him. Chachi, Antonio Sabato, Jr

Perverted Uncle Ted Nugent, "Kid" Rock - the curdled cream of the fetid crop.

[GoneOffShore]

25. He only needs ego stroking. His diet is crap, he doesn't drink, he actually hates people.

And once he's no longer pResident, people will avoid him.

He's going to die a cold and lonely death.

[keithbvadu2]

53. Oh, no! He's going to hold rallies and his supporters will buy tickets.

Oh, no! He's going to hold rallies and his supporters will buy tickets.

Lots of tickets!

[Dave Starsky]

115. He won't have NBC or the American taxpayer footing the bill for them.

He'll have to rely on his own rubes to fund the venues, security, etc.

Maybe Wal Mart can donate a few of their abandoned parking lots to the cause.

[keithbvadu2]

117. They better get cash up front

[mr_lebowski]

18. Wonder who's paying for these renovations?

"Renovations to living quarters expected to be occupied by Trump and first lady Melania Trump are underway, ahead of when they'll be living there full time after the Jan. 20 inauguration, sources familiar with the planning told ABC News"

What am I saying?

He expects the American People to be paying for new gold toilets I'm sure.

[greatauntoftriplets]

19. Will they be given combat pay as an incentive?

[Under The Radar]

20. He shall receive not a minute or dollar more than Carter gets.

The secret service is governed and falls within the department of homeland security. With Biden being fair and just, I am sure that he will limit Trump to what Jimmy Carter, George W. Clinton and Obama receives in protection.

[joho260]

37. George?

I didn't know funk musicians get Secret Service protection!

[Under The Radar]

42. George W. ....should have added a comma.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

62. Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, or your security detail will follow, whatever.

[Marcuse]

88. Prescient.

Our country and our cities, they have been betrayed for money
Ooh, and somehow the people, they will make a change, yeah
There's not a doubt in my mind, if hunger and anger place the blame
There won't be a country left to change
We got to see what we're doing in the name of comfort
We've got to see, we've got to feel the warning signs
But in order to get it together, we've got to get our heads together
Everybody is going to make it this time

[Ziggysmom]

21. Melania's boyfriend HANK is in NYC, she'll head there!

https://www.yourtango.com/2017304856/who-hank-siemens-facts-details-rumors-photos-melania-trump-boyfriend-affair

[tikka]

22. Why isn't Palm Beach doing something about this?

When trump bought Mar a Lago, one of the stipulations was that it could either be a residence or a golf course. Why is the city letting him get away with this?

[stillcool]

28. I remember reading something about that...

but I think it was part of a loan thing, or a tax thing, or an occupancy thing? Since he registered and voted using that address they must have straightened it out. The golf course isn't on the property of Mara-la-go, but I think that might be the loan that was at issue....a really long lease on the golf property. The article also says the Secret Service would be in West Palm Beach. Guess there will be a change in their upkeep.

[Aerator]

33. Palm Beach also gave him permission to put in a temporary helicopter pad for Marine One.

The pad has to be removed once he is no longer President ,no more flying in by Helicopter is allowed .

[jmowreader]

38. Not "residence or golf course." Residence or hotel.

Trump's Palm Beach golf course is in West Palm, which is on the mainland. Palm Beach itself is a narrow island.

Interestingly enough, Trump Golf Palm Beach is a block from the airport (which means the sound of jets can distract you from playing your best golf), and the golf resort property wraps around the Palm Beach County Jail. Yeah Don, you really know how to make your guests feel special.

But no, Tikka is right: Trump can't live at Mar-a-Lago. The property is in a residential neighborhood, and rich people are serious about that shit. He received permission in 1993 to repurpose the property as a hotel, and the agreement is very clear: as long as Mar-a-Lago is a hotel, he may not reside there for more than three weeks a year, and no more than seven days at any one time. If he tries moving in with this agreement still in effect, he will quickly find out that his neighbors really do have money and they really do have lawyers on speed-dial.

My bet is he builds a new house on Trump Doral rather than fighting the Palm Beach City Council.

[tikka]

41. Thank you

[flibbitygiblets]

48. Also, it's VOTER FRAUD. MAL is not a legal residence.

Yay, we finally found the voter fraud, it was coming from inside the (white) house.

[LPBBEAR]

23. I certainly wouldn't

take a bullet for that POtuS. Oops, damn, I must have been looking the wrong direction when that guy fired at Mr. Trump.

[GoneOffShore]

27. It's doubtful that anyone would waste a bullet on him. A bag of poo perhaps, but not a bullet.

They cost money.

[James48]

31. Only a part time gig

Until his conviction and sentencing for all his crimes. He’ll get a nice safe spot in prison, where those Bureau of Prison thugs can keep an eye on him.

[scarletlib]

32. Wonder how that is going to go.

When the plans for the club, tennis courts, etc. were approved, it was approved as a business not a residence. He was limited to 3 day visits as a residence.

He got away with longer stays because he was POTUS. Town of Palm Beach may not be as amenable to this violation post presidency. They have more money than he does so his money, status will not be as prestigious in future.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

34. Where will they stay when Trump is moved to Leavenworth?

[jmowreader]

40. This question has never been raised before...

...but if Trump winds up in prison, the Secret Service will probably terminate his protective detail until he is released.

[andym]

36. They'll probably have to draw straws..Shortest ones lose and the losing agents

will have to go to Mar-A-Lago.

[DENVERPOPS]

43. I'm sure the renovations

are all being done with Taxpayer money, because he says the Secret Service requested them for security reasons.

He sure as hell needs to get the hell out of NY, ASAP.........

At any rate, they better keep him isolated so he can't sell all the TOP SECRET intel that he has collected to sell to other countries....

What intel TRUMP INC doesn't want, but that is damaging to him and RepubliCONs is being shredded 24/7...........

[MyOwnPeace]

63. I would think that the "security" issues

have already been covered since he's "had" to take his "small breaks away from the hard work" for the past 4 years.
And while I don't remember from back then, didn't we pay a shit-load of money to "secure" Bush's ranch (you know, where he "cleared brush" for just about 1/5th of his term, only to have him move to a gated community in town so he could have his studio to paint?

Lot's of details in all of this, I'm sure.

And I'm almost ready to OK a blank check just to get his fat A$$ out of OUR HOUSE!!!

[DesertRat]

44. No mention of their young son

Sad.

[Vinca]

45. It pains me the orange blob will still be milking taxpayers for their hard earned dollars.

Suddenly the cost of golf carts will be quadrupled and the jerk will probably want an official food taster hired.

[Evolve Dammit]

49. I find no humor in this anymore. He needs removal and prosecution. For the rest of his life. Scum.

[DemoTex]

50. Florida? Pensacola? FPC Pensacola?

Federal Prison Camp Pensacola

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Pensacola

[pfitz59]

108. A shame the Feds closed the one at Eglin

The prisoners were the greens-keepers at the bases's immaculate golf course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Eglin#:~:text=Federal%20Prison%20Camp%2C%20Eglin%20was%20a%20Federal%20Bureau,Field%206%2C%20Eglin%20Air%20Force%20Base%20in%20Florida.

[MyOwnPeace]

113. Isn't that the prison

where a guard who is a Trump supporter complained "He's not hurting the right people?"

Yeah, he deserves to be there - among "his kind of people!"


https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/424263-trump-supporter-complains-shutdown-is-not-hurting-the-people-he

[malthaussen]

52. I would LOVE to hear the results of this question. :) n/t

[Mindspin]

54. Just like the majority of Americans over the past 4 years...

their only hope lies in high cholesterol.

[FailureToCommunicate]

55. Secret Service SHOULD get ready for Trump staying in New York. His court appearances will

mean he will have to be there a LOT.

At least until he is moved to the SuperMax in Colorado.

[EarthFirst]

56. Why is this preparatory phase given such attention...

...when the Biden transition is forced to use back channel communication in an effort to secure their transition tasks?

[Oscarthegreat]

61. Much ado about nothing

Trump will be in prison, and I doubt Secret Service agents are allowed in there.

[MyOwnPeace]

65. But, but.....

Who's gonna' protect Donnie from "BIG BUBBA?"

[JohnnyRingo]

64. I'm sure they'll have to pay country club membership fees

I meant to say we'll pay membership fees and greens fees when they go play golf with him, and of course we'll tip the beer girl.

Can't wait to see his presidential library.

[MyOwnPeace]

66. OK, Johnny, let's have some fun.......

Guess what book will be in the "library:"

I'm going "PENTHOUSE!" (and if Melania was featured in any of them, copies will be on sale in the gift shop!)

[JohnnyRingo]

80. At least one wall plastered with that fake Time cover he flouts.

I would expect the library to be more of a display of fast food menus, volumes of Golf For Dummies, and gold flake snow globes.

He could have a exhibit of his what he says is his favorite book; A tattered bible in a glass case that self immolates when you push the button. God in a booming voice recorded by that Allstate guy saying: "You can fool some of the people...."

[MyOwnPeace]

81. And what about holograms..........

maybe the one of him going up the stairs with toilet paper on his shoe - Melania smacking away his hand when he wants to hold it - the Japanese Prime Minister rolls his eyes - tRump pushes aside the Prime Minister of Montenegro...............
Or maybe a history of how the hair works.............

[JohnnyRingo]

89. Good one.

[kairos12]

68. Get one of the Nazi militias to do it.

[brooklynite]

69. See "Guarding Tess"

[TeamPooka]

71. Palm Beach may disagree with Donny's plans. Maralago isn't allowed to be a primary residence.

that was part of the deal when he opened the place.
of course he will ignore the law and Palm Beach will roll over like lapdogs but we'll see...

[Towlie]

74. Rikers Island would be a better place for Trump.

 
← not here

[hadEnuf]

78. We are going to have to pay off all of the debt incurred by Trump's tax giveaways to the rich.

So I'm sure there is a discount rent-a-cop agency near Mar-a-Lumbago that would suffice.

[Cadfael]

79. So the Secret Service officers get to decide if they want to go to

Florida with him? Wouldn’t it be funny if they all said “mmmm...no thanks, I’m good here”

[keithbvadu2]

82. Ivanka and her two bros would lose the protection. Right?

Ivanka and her two bros would lose the protection. Right?

Taxpayer savings.

[Paper Roses]

86. Do we have to pay for SS protection for the extended family once he is gone? Sons and daughter too?

I resent paying for tRumps protection and that of his family. They did nothing positive for this nation.

What a mistake this country made when he was elected. We will never be rid of him and his spawn?

[Angleae]

90. Only formuer POTUS, spouse, and minor children (under age 16)

https://www.secretservice.gov/protection/

[mdbl]

84. Does the secret service follow him to jail?

just sayin'

[Buckeye_Democrat]

97. Wouldn't that be interesting!

They couldn't have firearms while with him in prison, right? Too much of a risk.

[NNadir]

91. It would be better if they were asked if they want to be transferred to Leavenworth. n/t.

[aggiesal]

93. Melania New York ...

Pendejo45 in Mad-A-Lardo

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

96. PROTECT THE RESOLUTE DESK!!!

This is the first -- and probably the last -- time I've ever posted in all caps. I think this is really important. Given how much Fat Donnie is literally trashing the WH and government -- including spy aircraft -- on his way out the door, stealing one of the most iconic items in the Oval Office would be child's play. He would take it not because of its value but because he knows it would piss off the Democrats.

Someone must be assigned to protect it so it doesn't end up on a moving van on its way to Mar-A-Lago.

[Renew Deal]

98. On the one hand, living the good life in Florida

On the other, he would kill you if it benefited him. Tough choice

[NoRoadUntravelled]

99. What happens if no Secret Service are willing to do it? nt

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

100. And the grift continues.

The SS will have to rent hotel rooms from Trump at exorbitant rates. They will have to pay a premium rate for golf cart rentals every time he is on the links. When Trump flies his personal jet to and from rallies the SS will be charged at first class rates for the privilege of flying in coach seats. When Trump goes to one of his properties, guess who will rent the SS the cars they'll need to chase Fat Donnie around. Oh, and did I mention that Trump will get the money for every meal the SS eats at a Trump establishment.

Of course, Trump will argue that Melania will deserve the same SS benefits, and so do the kids.

By the way, Mar-A-Lago will have to be upgraded -- new carpet, new paint, new landscape, etc. -- to make it suitable for a president to live in. And then there's the golf courses at each of Trump's resorts, of course.

The grift continues.

[Tiger8]

102. I'm confused....an imprisoned President is a new concept

What happens if Trump assaults another prisoner or a guard? Or Trump tries to escape?

Prison guards would need to physically restrain him, which can get rough. Or if Trump obtained a gun, they'd have to shoot him. I can't picture the SS just standing by.

I think they'd have a treat him like he was Dr. Hannibal Lector. Keep him in solitary confinement. To move him, it would require a strait jacket and a hand truck. Also a mouth guard mask, in case he tries to bite.

[turbinetree]

109. Well first of all he will have to deal with the law in New York,

after all there are laws that he broke and he has to answer to them, so before he galivants down to that place called Florida, maybe he and others should get his tower readied for sleep overs.................

[jmowreader]

112. I suspect in the end...

...they'll assemble Trump's protective detail the same way the Army gets recruiters and drill sergeants: they pick out who they want and issue an ultimatum: either do this job or resign from the service.

[llashram]

118. I wonder if

they will be charged for their meals and rooms. And will they have to pay out-of-pocket while on this
detail?

[GulfCoast66]

122. Highly doubt it. His guard will be much smaller

And will be a permanent assignment. They will have their own apartments or homes. And will work routine shifts. They will get off work and go home.

Before now when he left the WH it was a trip.

Plus we will no longer pay for his travel. No AF1. No Marine 1. No presidential Limo.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

119. Have they gotten rid of the bedbugs?

[BrightKnight]

120. He would be safer in club fed.

They could also control his diet and assure that he is not drinking bleach or cramming a tac light up his ass.

[helpisontheway]

123. You could not pay me enough money to take that job.

A million dollars would not be enough to be that miserable everyday. He has stressed me out as a citizen. No way in hell I would spend my days with that clown and the crooks he calls friends.