Russia claims it chased a U.S. warship out of disputed waters with a "ramming" threat

[groundloop]

Source: CBS News

Moscow — Russia's defense ministry claimed on Tuesday that one of its warships had caught a U.S. Navy destroyer operating in Russia's Pacific territorial waters and chased it off. The U.S. Navy issued a statement describing the incident as the latest "freedom of navigation operation," challenging what the U.S. considers illegitimate territorial claims by other nations, but it did not provide details on how it ended or whether there was any action considered unsafe by Russian forces.

The USS John S. McCain, a guided-missile destroyer, violated Russia's territorial waters by moving less than two miles beyond the maritime border at 0317 GMT into Peter the Great Gulf, the Russian ministry said in a statement.

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The Admiral Vinogradov, an anti-submarine destroyer in Russia's Pacific Fleet, sent a warning to the U.S. ship and threatened to "use a ramming maneuver to drive the intruder out of its territorial waters."

The U.S. Navy's Pacific Fleet said in a statement that the USS John S. McCain had "asserted navigational rights" in the area "by challenging Russia's excessive maritime claims."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-us-warship-uss-john-mccain-ramming-threat-us-navy-freedom-of-navigation-operation/

[Aristus]

1. Putin flexing his muscles now that his loyal lapdog is on the way out?

Was the choice of ship a thumb of the nose at Arizona?

[underpants]

2. Sounds like everyone is whipping it out

Nice little pissing match we have going here.

[SomedayKindaLove]

3. Trump spending his last days

Playing chicken with the USS John S. McCain

[marble falls]

5. Not quite. The USN and the Russians as well as the Chinese do this reularly at sea and ...

... in the air. We've had collisions with the Russians in the Black Sea a few years back. The bear overflies Alaska and Canada a lot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/world/asia/navy-ships-war-russia-usa.html

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/true-story-1984-russian-submarine-collided-us-aircraft-carrier-168070


https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27021/ship-collisions-us-navy-history/

K-22 vs USS Voge: On August 28th 1976, the Soviet submarine K-22 collided with the U.S. Navy fast frigate USS Voge. Voge had been stalking K-22 and the Soviet Navy captain was unaware of her presence until a collision was imminent. Voge received hull damage but there were no injuries.

K-134 vs USS Kitty Hawk: On March 21st, 1984 the Soviet attack submarine K-134 collided with the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan. K-134 was seriously damaged and had to be towed away from the collision site.

USS Yorktown vs Bezzvetny: On February 12th, 1988 the guided missile cruiser USS Yorktown and the guided missile destroyer USS Caron were conducting freedom of navigation operations inside Soviet waters in the Black Sea when Yorktown was bumped by the Soviet Navy frigate Bezzavetny. Yorktown sustained minor damage but continued sailing. There were no injuries.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/us/russia-military-alaska-arctic-fishing.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/28/us-jets-intercept-russian-military-aircraft-off-alaska-coast/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/politics/us-canada-jets-intercept-russia-alaska/index.html



https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3110262/us-bombers-enter-chinas-adiz-pla-navy-mounts-massive-exercises

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2020/05/21/the-us-china-are-close-military-confrontation-south-china-sea/


These things are done by all nations. Part of it is to measure threat response, part of it is statecraft, part of it is testosterone.

[Harker]

4. "The Bedford Incident" comes to mind.

The film provided the potent reminder that it wouldn't take much.

[keithbvadu2]

6. That was one intense movie.

One that could be used in leadership classes.

[Harker]

9. Yes.

The brink is a very dangerous place.

I think Richard Widmark was well cast. He was a lifelong Democrat and gun control advocate.

[Grins]

7. Terrific film. I've used it before...

... as examples of what could go wrong with people like John Bolton in positions of authority.

[Grins]

8. And the other one...

The Captain of the second Russian submarine in “The Hunt for Red October”, so cocksure he took down the safeguards that allowed his own torpedo to blow up his sub. His 2nd in command turns to him and shouts, “You arrogant ass! You've killed us!”

[Harker]

10. It always has struck me as all the edgier

for depicting MAD at a tactical level.

[ManiacJoe]

11. Seems like an odd place for the US Navy to be...

... assuming Google Maps is showing me the correct place.