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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,646 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:55 PM Nov 2020

Trump lawyer details far-fetched strategy to reverse Pennsylvania win for Biden

Source: CNBC

A lawyer for President Donald Trump's campaign on Wednesday revealed that the campaign could be relying on pulling off a complicated — and possibly unprecedented — legal and legislative trick shot to undo President-elect Joe Biden's victory in Pennsylvania and possibly in other states.

That far-fetched strategy would require a federal court to invalidate Pennsylvania's certification of its election results, and then get the state's General Assembly to agree to send Trump electors to the Electoral College.

The idea is buried in a footnote in a three-page letter that campaign attorney Marc Scaringi wrote to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit.

The Trump campaign is asking that appeals court to hear its bid to block the effect of Tuesday's certification of a win for Biden in Pennsylvania.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-lawyer-details-far-fetched-strategy-to-reverse-pennsylvania-win-for-biden/ar-BB1blY6U?li=BBnbfcQ&ocid=DELLDHP



When all other dumbass attempts have failed.
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Trump lawyer details far-fetched strategy to reverse Pennsylvania win for Biden (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP
LOL. dware Nov 2020 #1
Doesn't sook like it would work to me! Lawyers are probably doing this napi21 Nov 2020 #2
It's a scam - Trump still soliciting donations for his "defense fund" William Seger Nov 2020 #4
Billable hours are billable hours. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2020 #11
Like he ever paid his lawyers... n/t Lock him up. Nov 2020 #17
It's hard to get good help for $20,000 per day. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #20
campaign money is free for trump TeamPooka Nov 2020 #22
You got it!!! n/t ewagner Nov 2020 #21
And Pennsylvania law says SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #30
Yes, but... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #35
Right wing logic SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #36
Even though these desperate and shameful lawsuits are failing, it still Mike 03 Nov 2020 #3
The Presidential Election is OVER! FarPoint Nov 2020 #5
Exactly! I just said this yesterday - he thinks he's still campaigning! Iris Nov 2020 #14
They just look more ridiculous by the minute C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #6
It was their intended destination all along bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #7
Trump is using the fight to grift millions of rubes. Vinnie From Indy Nov 2020 #8
Gotta keep the grift going as long as possible (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #9
It's time for some disbarment. Dawson Leery Nov 2020 #10
THIS SunSeeker Nov 2020 #16
Why hasn't that already happened? Or at least proceedings, inquiries, resolutions, etc. TheRickles Nov 2020 #32
When are these judges going to start proclaiming these are, "frivolous lawsuits?" Bayard Nov 2020 #12
I wish they would. It's not going to stop until they do. nt crickets Nov 2020 #29
Marc Scaringi - that's a new one, another added to the dustbin of trump attorneys. George II Nov 2020 #13
These clowns will be doing this birdographer Nov 2020 #15
I still think durablend Nov 2020 #28
Understatement of the year: complicated with not much of a chance to work ... marble falls Nov 2020 #18
Commonwealth Court agreed to hear the Kelly/Parnell DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #19
The RepubliCON party is probably paying for this DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #23
They Suck! mdbl Nov 2020 #24
Are they hoping to get the SCOTUS involved? McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #25
I guess if you have judges ignore all laws and then have a plantiff just make shit up, its more beachbumbob Nov 2020 #26
tRump's legal strategy in the past has always been to wear the other side down no matter how PaulRevere08 Nov 2020 #27
Based on what evidence? SayItLoud Nov 2020 #31
Evidence, EVIDENCE!!!! dware Nov 2020 #33
Verdict first... then the trial! WheelWalker Nov 2020 #41
It's the Republican way. nt dware Nov 2020 #42
This country is one step away from being a totalitarian dictatorship with dump at the helm. IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #34
Your Honor! Trump won the election because I said so! That is proof enough! KWR65 Nov 2020 #37
It's all a reality show now Roc2020 Nov 2020 #38
Would half-baked be a better adjective for far-fetched? LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #39
I don't think so... birdographer Nov 2020 #40
They aren't even claiming fraud anymore. JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #43
This may be an attempt to try and get the U.S. Supreme Court to rescue them. Sloumeau Nov 2020 #44
We shouldn't be Overconfident, because there's One Authority that has yet to Weigh In: Paul Politerude Nov 2020 #45
So "F " the voting will of the people because MF45 lost ? kimbutgar Nov 2020 #46
All of those people.... SergeStorms Nov 2020 #47

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. Doesn't sook like it would work to me! Lawyers are probably doing this
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

because DT is screaming "DO SOMETHING" and they're trying to shut him up!

William Seger

(10,765 posts)
4. It's a scam - Trump still soliciting donations for his "defense fund"
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:03 PM
Nov 2020

... and lying about where almost all the money is really going: campaign debts and Trump family and friends graft.

SCantiGOP

(13,862 posts)
30. And Pennsylvania law says
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:50 PM
Nov 2020

that in that event the Governor, not the legislature, submits the elector list.
The Gov is a Dem.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
35. Yes, but...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:04 PM
Nov 2020

...according to right-wing logic, the legislature could submit its own, ad hoc slate of Trump electors, and the SCOTUS could then rule that the Constitution specifically authorizes "state legislatures" to decide how electors are to be appointed, and that therefore the Trump slate must be the one accepted.

Not likely to work, but it would be a real shit-show, because you'd get two sets of electoral votes from PA (etc.) showing up, with two resulting "final electoral college tallies," one giving Biden 306 EV and the other giving Trump 270+, and Congress might decide to blow off the SCOTUS ruling, since there's nothing in the Constitution giving the judiciary any authority in determining electors. (Incidentally, since it would be a matter of competing totals, and not a failure of either candidate to get a majority, it wouldn't be decided by the House state delegations, either. In short, we'd have a full-blown constitutional crisis, and likely a second civil war.)

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. Even though these desperate and shameful lawsuits are failing, it still
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

infuriates me because it's so disrespectful to our country and to Biden/Harris.

Iris

(15,642 posts)
14. Exactly! I just said this yesterday - he thinks he's still campaigning!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:01 PM
Nov 2020

Also doesn't seem to understand want an election actually is with his comment to the PA GOP Senators that "they flooded the market." WTF is he talking about?

bucolic_frolic

(42,982 posts)
7. It was their intended destination all along
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:30 PM
Nov 2020

They're like thieves who wait for the cash drawer to be left open and can't help themselves

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
8. Trump is using the fight to grift millions of rubes.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:33 PM
Nov 2020

The lawyers are using the fight to get a taste of all that money flowing into Trump's coffers.

Bayard

(21,979 posts)
12. When are these judges going to start proclaiming these are, "frivolous lawsuits?"
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:50 PM
Nov 2020

Telling the trump people to go away and don't come back here wasting my time.

durablend

(7,455 posts)
28. I still think
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

He's going to have his own swearing-in ceremony (w/Paula White) at the same time the "real" president is.

marble falls

(56,943 posts)
18. Understatement of the year: complicated with not much of a chance to work ...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:35 PM
Nov 2020

... but he forgot stupid, unethical, "Wile E. Coyote"-like ...

DeminPennswoods

(15,264 posts)
19. Commonwealth Court agreed to hear the Kelly/Parnell
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:36 PM
Nov 2020

challenge to Act 77 that expanded absentee ballot voting. A law that was passed by the GOP-controlled state legislature and was in effect for the April-moved-to-June primary with no objection from either candidate.

It won't affect the presidential certification, but the state was injoined from certifying any uncertified down ballot elections.

The judge issuing the order was an R, Patricia McCullough. Unfortunately she won her 10 year retention election in 2019, so no chance to dump her until 2029.

DENVERPOPS

(8,780 posts)
23. The RepubliCON party is probably paying for this
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

so they can stall and have more time to trash the United States and everyone in it, as they go out the door.
You know, their SCORCHED EARTH LEGACY..............

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
26. I guess if you have judges ignore all laws and then have a plantiff just make shit up, its more
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:32 PM
Nov 2020

than just farfetch

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
27. tRump's legal strategy in the past has always been to wear the other side down no matter how
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:37 PM
Nov 2020

valid their cause was. I don't think his mind get around the fact that the other side has deeper pockets this time.

dware

(12,239 posts)
33. Evidence, EVIDENCE!!!!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:00 PM
Nov 2020

We don't need no steeenking evidence, our word alone should be enough, just trust us on this.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
34. This country is one step away from being a totalitarian dictatorship with dump at the helm.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020

Hopefully that is all averted. I can not conceive why we got this close to a total breakdown of our voting system. Scary as hell.

Roc2020

(1,613 posts)
38. It's all a reality show now
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:36 PM
Nov 2020

Everybody knows it's over except some Trump supporters that are clinging to fantasy that Trump can still win..those are the people Trump wants to keep milking for cash.

birdographer

(1,299 posts)
40. I don't think so...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:14 PM
Nov 2020

Half-baked indicates that it has been baked, it's half done. It may not be fully baked, but it's halfway there. I don't even like far-fetched, now that you mention it. Although I guess it was fetched. I would be ok with "stupid," mostly.

JohnnyRingo

(18,613 posts)
43. They aren't even claiming fraud anymore.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:26 PM
Nov 2020

Just somehow convince the court that it should invalidate the popular vote and let the state republicans decide who gets the electoral votes.

...pretty please Mr Judge, with sugar on top?

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
44. This may be an attempt to try and get the U.S. Supreme Court to rescue them.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:36 PM
Nov 2020

They take this to the appeals court. Then it gets shot down. Then they appeal to the Supreme Court.

"Oh, Great Supreme Court, we have no evidence of fraud, but lots of people called Trump on election night and thought he won. That means the will of the people should be overturned, right?"

 

Paul Politerude

(34 posts)
45. We shouldn't be Overconfident, because there's One Authority that has yet to Weigh In:
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:56 PM
Nov 2020

Jesus! If our Lord and Savior hears the anguished pleas of His People, the Evangelicals, who have been scrupulously and meticulously faithful to the values He preached 2,000 years ago, well, the Lord may have to come down here and Set Things Right!

Hallelujah!

kimbutgar

(21,027 posts)
46. So "F " the voting will of the people because MF45 lost ?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:27 PM
Nov 2020

That is the ultimate bs.

I can’t wait for January 20th it can’t come soon enough.

SergeStorms

(19,108 posts)
47. All of those people....
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:47 PM
Nov 2020
meant to vote for Trump, but somehow got confused and voted for Biden. Of course they have oceans of proof to support that, as soon as they can fabricate it. Easy-peasey, lemon-squeezy, in legal terminology.
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