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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:01 PM Nov 2020

Trump Ally Urges POTUS to Pardon Himself in Spree, Despite Voter Opposition

Source: MSN/Newsweek

President Donald Trump ally Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has encouraged the commander-in-chief to go on a pardoning spree should he see fit to defend himself and others from actions of the "radical left" in future.

"Trump should pardon Michael Flynn, he should pardon the Thanksgiving Turkey, he should pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials to Joe Exotic if he has too," he said on Fox News. "Because you see from the radical left a bloodlust that will only be quenched if they come after the people who worked so hard to animate the Trump administration."

He added: "I think that the president ought to wield that pardon power effectively and robustly."

Trump faces the prospect of lawsuits and criminal investigations upon leaving office and there have been suggestions he could attempt to pardon himself preemptively from federal crimes, ahead of leaving his position as commander-in-chief.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-ally-urges-potus-to-pardon-himself-in-spree-despite-voter-opposition/ar-BB1blKCH?li=BBnbfcL

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Trump Ally Urges POTUS to Pardon Himself in Spree, Despite Voter Opposition (Original Post) TomCADem Nov 2020 OP
PPP What greater Pompous Power & Privilege? bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #1
How can Rebl2 Nov 2020 #2
Maybe Gaetz would like a preemptive pardon. Marcuse Nov 2020 #3
sounds guilty stillcool Nov 2020 #4
Note to Joe Biden: Mike Niendorff Nov 2020 #5
Is that even possible? moose65 Nov 2020 #6
The "left" can't "go after them" if they're innocent. JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #7
the pardon is a clear admission of guilt, I hope trump tries to self-pardon and then see it beachbumbob Nov 2020 #8
A president can pardon himself? BlueStater Nov 2020 #9
So Gaetz is an a&&hole too, who doesn't care if those that rump pardons, shouldn't really have such SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #10
Is Matt Gaetz (R-FL) hinting to tRumpie that he needs a pardon? KS Toronado Nov 2020 #11
Bingo LiberalLovinLug Nov 2020 #12
Here's Proof Gaetz Has Been A Trump Sycophant For Years Now dishingtrump Nov 2020 #13
What a jerk! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2020 #14
Thanks For The Welcome dishingtrump Nov 2020 #16
Waiting for denials... Maxheader Nov 2020 #15
Don't give him any ideas!!! Initech Nov 2020 #17
If the President can pardon himself.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #18

bucolic_frolic

(43,032 posts)
1. PPP What greater Pompous Power & Privilege?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:06 PM
Nov 2020

Almost God-like! Divine Right of Kings!

I'm not sure that will always play well in the courts, in history, or for the power hungry offspring.

Rebl2

(13,450 posts)
2. How can
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:29 PM
Nov 2020

he pardon himself when he hasn’t been charged with a crime yet? Also if he could do this, isn’t he admitting guilt?

moose65

(3,166 posts)
6. Is that even possible?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:00 PM
Nov 2020

Can a president pardon someone for future crimes? That really can’t be a thing, can it?

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
7. The "left" can't "go after them" if they're innocent.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 02:56 AM
Nov 2020

I mean, go after Trump and the others for what? Cheating on their weight watchers diet?
No. If they did a crime they deserve to pay. Gaetz seems to think republicans have some inherent immunity from the law.

Innocent men don't need pardoned.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
8. the pardon is a clear admission of guilt, I hope trump tries to self-pardon and then see it
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 08:17 AM
Nov 2020

invalidated in March or April by Supreme Court and then he is hung out to dry with Federal charges

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. A president can pardon himself?
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 09:16 AM
Nov 2020

That sounds completely ludicrous.

If a president can do this, why didn’t Nixon do it?

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
10. So Gaetz is an a&&hole too, who doesn't care if those that rump pardons, shouldn't really have such
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:16 PM
Nov 2020

a pardon if granted, e.g., murderers, crooks, scammers, etc.? Just wait and watch...we're yet to see the mess that's coming.

KS Toronado

(17,145 posts)
11. Is Matt Gaetz (R-FL) hinting to tRumpie that he needs a pardon?
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:18 PM
Nov 2020

Or maybe all republican congressmen because they enabled him?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
12. Bingo
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 03:23 PM
Nov 2020

nudge nudge wink wink.


But why does Trump need to pardon anyone? Seems like an admission of guilt. Don't they say, if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear?

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
15. Waiting for denials...
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 07:32 AM
Nov 2020


coming from the wingers in congress that aided and abetted a criminal ,

in all the traitorous legislation President Biden is getting ready to eliminate....

Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
18. If the President can pardon himself....
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:39 PM
Nov 2020

Then the President is above the law. This cannot be permitted in a Republic.

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