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Omaha Steve

(99,566 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:04 PM Nov 2020

Hungarian official retracts comparing George Soros to Hitler

Source: AP

By JUSTIN SPIKE

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — After facing strong condemnation, a Hungarian commissioner on Sunday begrudgingly retracted an article comparing American-Hungarian billionaire and philanthropist George Soros, a staunch critic of Hungary’s government, to Adolf Hitler and the Nazis.

“Europe is George Soros’ gas chamber,” Szilard Demeter, ministerial commissioner and head of the Petofi Literary Museum in Budapest, wrote in an opinion Saturday in the pro-government Origo media outlet. “Poison gas flows from the capsule of a multicultural open society, which is deadly to the European way of life.”

The comments drew outrage from Hungary’s Jewish community, including the Unified Hungarian Jewish Congregation, which called the article “tasteless” and “unforgivable.”

“(It’s) a textbook case of the relativization of the Holocaust, and is therefore incompatible with the government’s claim of zero tolerance for anti-Semitism,” the group said.



FILE - In this June 21, 2019 file photo, George Soros, founder and chairman of the Open Society Foundations, looks before the Joseph A. Schumpeter award ceremony in Vienna, Austria. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/budapest-george-soros-europe-hungary-europe-913b41d42319578a24d6daba50b7b0bb

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rso

(2,271 posts)
1. Hungary
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

There is a parallel between PM Orban’s Party and the radicalization of the GOP right here at home. I was posted in Budapest from 2000 to 2004, and PM Orban and his Party were in power for most of that time, but they were at most a center-right Party, rejecting alliances from extreme right elements. Today, they are a populist, neo-fascist Party, having undergone a radicalization similar to the GOP’s.

erronis

(15,218 posts)
2. Thanks for service in Hungary. Do you detect the tendrils from the USSR/Russia, then and now?
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:27 PM
Nov 2020

Of course, the Kremlin has always meddled in most of eastern Europe; and tried to do the same in the western/NATO/world.

I wonder what has made the current PM-for-life (Putin) able to be more successful than those that preceded him.

rso

(2,271 posts)
3. Hungary
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:37 PM
Nov 2020

The irony is that during my time there, it was the far-left parties that were more sympathetic to Russia (Hungary has a Parliamentary system, so there are many political parties). But as Putin assumed power from Yeltsin and eventually became a right-wing kleptocrat, the Hungarian right allied itself with Putin. And the key point here is that other than for a few years in the 1990s and early 2000s, Hungary has absolutely no tradition of western-styled democracy in its thousand year history.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
4. That's true of Eastern Europe in general, right?
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:41 PM
Nov 2020

Russia, for instance, has no tradition of democracy or an elected Republic? Thank you for posting on this subject, which I know little about.

rso

(2,271 posts)
9. Hungary
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 04:20 PM
Nov 2020

Yes, the only exception that comes to mind is the Czech Republic, which did have western-style democracy between the two World Wars.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
8. Yes, and Eastern Europe has always been horrifically antisemitic.
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 04:18 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Sun Nov 29, 2020, 07:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Not that the rest of the world has been all that welcoming to Jews...

sandensea

(21,616 posts)
11. +1
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 06:45 PM
Nov 2020

Excellent analogy. This is happening is numerous countries with eroding white majorities, sadly - including, most notably, the U.S.

sandensea

(21,616 posts)
14. With growing migration from the Middle East, and a sizable Gypsy minority whom they HATE
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:13 AM
Nov 2020

- the way a Repug might hate a Mexican lady in front of him at the grocery store at rush hour.

With 8 kids. Plus the abuela.

That kind of hatred.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
5. An added irony here is that
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:45 PM
Nov 2020

during World War II Hungary was allied with Germany, sending its army to aid the German invasion of the Soviet Union.

It's government was also hugely complicit in the Holocaust.

rso

(2,271 posts)
10. Hungary
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 04:26 PM
Nov 2020

Yes, the WW 2 government of Admiral Horthy (a left-over title from the old Austro-Hungarian Empire) initially resisted the roundup of Jews but later relented, and the virulently antisemitic Hungarian Arrow Party gleefully joined the Germans in persecution and murder.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. What right wingers have done to that great philanthropist is unconscionable.
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 04:15 PM
Nov 2020

Soros has done nothing but help people, and he gets pilloried like he is the devil incarnate.

 

Oscarthegreat

(121 posts)
12. Complaining about Hungary
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 07:29 PM
Nov 2020

Since Hungary has almost no democratic history and tradition, it's hard to complain about its current fascist government when our own GOP is just as fascist, racist and against a multi ethnic, multi cultural society. Hungary doesn't even pretend to be a true democracy, why do we?

JI7

(89,244 posts)
16. Majority of Americans Voted for Joe Biden and even in 2016 Hillary Clinton got more votes
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:47 AM
Nov 2020

We do have a significant minority that is bigoted and everything ugly but they are still a minority . And more of us are working against that everyday .

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