Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:22 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (61,887 posts)
Family of 11-year-old boy who died in unheated Texas mobile home sues power companies for over $100
Source: Washington Post
million. For more than 24 hours last week, Maria Elisa Pineda’s pastel green mobile home outside Houston had no power and heat as temperatures plunged to 9 degrees. On Tuesday, Pineda found her 11-year-old son, Cristian Pavon, dead under a pile of blankets on his own bed — a death authorities suspect was a result of hypothermia. Now, Pineda is suing two major Texas energy providers, alleging Cristian would not have died had both companies alerted residents that the outages would last several days during the dangerous cold snap. The lawsuit filed over the weekend, first reported by the Houston Chronicle, also accuses Entergy Texas and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, known as ERCOT, of failing to protect the state’s independent power grid from a historic deep freeze that left millions without electricity, heat and water for days. “The power providers, long before any of us, knew that they would not have sufficient power to protect us and they didn’t tell us that,” Pineda’s attorney, Tony Buzbee, told The Washington Post. “You have people that died because of that. It’s just not acceptable. We’re going to hold people accountable.” Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-11-year-old-boy-who-died-in-an-unheated-texas-mobile-home-sues-power-companies-for-over-dollar100-million/ar-BB1dTMbU?ocid=NL_ENUS_D1_20210222_4_3
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Monday | OP |
Hugh_Lebowski | Monday | #1 | |
SoFlaBro | Monday | #2 | |
50 Shades Of Blue | Monday | #3 | |
IronLionZion | Monday | #16 | |
rdking647 | Monday | #4 | |
EX500rider | Monday | #5 | |
mezame | Monday | #6 | |
Chemisse | Monday | #11 | |
rickyhall | Monday | #13 | |
TexasBushwhacker | Monday | #19 | |
greenjar_01 | Tuesday | #22 | |
Turbineguy | Monday | #7 | |
ExTex | Monday | #8 | |
JustABozoOnThisBus | Monday | #9 | |
LanternWaste | Monday | #10 | |
IronLionZion | Monday | #15 | |
MicaelS | Monday | #18 | |
Rorey | Monday | #20 | |
sheilahi | Tuesday | #23 | |
Chemisse | Monday | #12 | |
colorado_ufo | Monday | #14 | |
MontanaMama | Monday | #17 | |
dlk | Monday | #21 | |
Jimbo S | Tuesday | #24 |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:29 PM
Hugh_Lebowski (19,552 posts)
1. I expect M$M coverage along the lines of ...
"The Pineda Family ... Are they REALLY Legal?"
"Marisa Pineda ... did she skimp on the thickness of the blankets?" "Records show Pinedas bought six pack of beer only two nights before son perished" This is the DU member formerly known as mr_lebowski.
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:32 PM
SoFlaBro (156 posts)
2. $100 dollars!?! Small claims court!?!
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Response to SoFlaBro (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:40 PM
50 Shades Of Blue (6,121 posts)
3. Try clicking on the URL...
Response to SoFlaBro (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:24 PM
IronLionZion (32,325 posts)
16. $100 million nt
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:11 PM
rdking647 (4,755 posts)
4. ercot has soverign immunity. (for now)
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:11 PM
EX500rider (6,587 posts)
5. Waiting on the autopsy might be a good idea. nt
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:43 PM
mezame (178 posts)
6. Found Her Son...
Ummm...found him, like when? Did she tuck him in the night before? Nothing about when she saw him last. Senseless death, but now that she's opened this can of worms, let's wait for police/coroner reporting.
And while getting a heads-up from ERCOT would've been great to know, when it becomes apparent that your household is in serious trouble, how would parents handle that? I don't have offspring, I'd know how to survive if I had to. But what was this woman thinking? |
Response to mezame (Reply #6)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:06 PM
Chemisse (29,613 posts)
11. That was my thought too.
I don't want to pile on to a woman who lost her child, and maybe she just didn't understand the consequences of cold weather, but when it is really cold and the power is out you bring your children and huddle up in bed with them and keep them safe and warm.
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Response to Chemisse (Reply #11)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:13 PM
rickyhall (3,034 posts)
13. What I thought, too. Why isn't everybody in one bed, pets, too?
Response to mezame (Reply #6)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:01 PM
TexasBushwhacker (16,520 posts)
19. I wonder if he had any underlying health issues
An autopsy may uncover a defective heart valve or some other heart issue.
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Response to mezame (Reply #6)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 12:28 AM
greenjar_01 (4,313 posts)
22. "I don't have offspring..."
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:18 PM
Turbineguy (32,148 posts)
7. They could have
wasted that money on maintenance and weatherproofing.
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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Response to ExTex (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:28 PM
JustABozoOnThisBus (20,722 posts)
9. Corporations can't cry, they can't bleed.
Despite a history of "corporations are people", they don't feel guilt.
The only thing that can cause them pain is to lose money. Sue them, maybe they learn a lesson. or maybe not. |
Response to ExTex (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:34 PM
LanternWaste (36,854 posts)
10. Who exactly is arguing your premise?
If no one, then it appears you're simply arguing against a wholly irrelevant point you merely infer.
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Response to ExTex (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:23 PM
IronLionZion (32,325 posts)
15. Punitive damages are to force companies to change their policies
in this case it's to invest in winterizing measures and better communication so this doesn't happen again in a few years
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Response to ExTex (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:01 PM
MicaelS (8,567 posts)
18. When corporate execs start being imprisoned....
For crimes the corporations made, then I will pay attention to your mindset.
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Response to ExTex (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:13 PM
Rorey (6,220 posts)
20. I struggled with this
When my favorite husband died at the age of 38, I was devastated. I felt that his doctor was horrible, and could have done more to try to save him. I saw a lawyer, and when I told him I really didn't want money, he told me I HAD to want money. I struggled a lot with what it would mean to be enriched because my husband died. It felt like I was putting a price on his life. I wondered how I could live with that.
Ultimately I didn't file a suit because, with the help of medical experts, I realized that it would likely not be provable that my husband could have been saved with better care. Not back in those days. My point is, I get what you're saying. I also understand the desperation of a family suffering the loss of that little boy. It's incomprehensible. I imagine that his grief-stricken mother is feeling much the same as I did at the time my husband died. All I wanted was to have him back. All she wants is her son back. It's futile to ask for the impossible, so you ask for what IS possible. Losing her son was hell, and this lawsuit is also going to be hell. |
Response to ExTex (Reply #8)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 09:14 AM
sheilahi (132 posts)
23. maybe
Maybe they need the money to pay for their $45,000 gas bill.
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:11 PM
Chemisse (29,613 posts)
12. The individual lawsuit should be scrapped, but the one for failure to protect the grid
should be on behalf of all those who died.
Power companies should not be liable for having a particular timetable for when the power is to be restored. Too many factors can alter that timetable. People need to respond to the situation as it stands in a way that bests keeps them safe. But a class action against failure to protect the grid makes a lot of sense in this situation. |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:22 PM
colorado_ufo (4,591 posts)
14. Sue the bastards.
It is the only thing that will get their attention. They knew for over 10 years that winterization of the power plants and sources was critical - life and death critical - and they chose to do NOTHING in order to save money!
I read that this poor little boy was elated at the snow - he had never seen snow - and died that night. Many people die on hiking trails because they don't understand, or underestimate the threat of, hypothermia. And kids seem so resilient! I read that there are other children in the family who survived; perhaps this poor child had an underlying condition of which the family was unaware, which made him more susceptible to the cold. Single digit temperatures are indeed dangerous. The cold killed this little boy, but so did the cold hearts of businesses and politicians. |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:53 PM
MontanaMama (16,625 posts)
17. I'm not going to jump on this family at this point.
I can’t imagine their pain and I will reserve judgment until we know how this boy actually died and what the circumstances around him were. There is so much we do not know.
I’ve been puzzling over this weather disaster in TX since it began. I ask myself why folks weren’t more prepared? I came to the conclusion that asking questions like that isn’t logical or supportive. I live in Montana and deep cold weather is what we live with for a good portion of the year....BUT what would I do if I had no natural gas flowing, no electricity and no water all at once? I would be in a mess too....AND, I know what to do in cold weather. Many or most people in TX don’t know what to do in times like this AND they had no leadership helping them prepare. I have shelved my judgement of the victims. ETA: I haven’t reserved judgement for TX leadership who did nothing but profit from this disaster and blame others. |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:09 PM
dlk (7,885 posts)
21. Texans passed tort reform
The maximum award someone can now receive is $250,000.
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 12:23 PM
Jimbo S (2,553 posts)
24. Class Action suit?
I don't have legal background. Would this path instead lead to a greater chance for justice?
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