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alp227

(32,013 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:47 PM Jan 2012

U.S. to Force Drug Firms to Report Money Paid to Doctors

To head off medical conflicts of interest, the Obama administration is poised to require drug companies to disclose the payments they make to doctors for research, consulting, speaking, travel and entertainment.

Many researchers have found evidence that such payments can influence doctors’ treatment decisions and contribute to higher costs by encouraging the use of more expensive drugs and medical devices.

Consumer advocates and members of Congress say patients may benefit from the new standards, being issued by the government under the new health care law. Federal officials said the disclosures increased the likelihood that doctors would make decisions in the best interests of patients, without regard to the doctors’ financial interests.

Large numbers of doctors receive payments from drug and device companies every year — sometimes into the hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars — in exchange for providing advice and giving lectures. Analyses by The New York Times and others have found that about a quarter of doctors take cash payments from drug or device makers and that nearly two-thirds accept routine gifts of food, including lunch for staff members and dinner for themselves.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/17/health/policy/us-to-tell-drug-makers-to-disclose-payments-to-doctors.html?pagewanted=all

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U.S. to Force Drug Firms to Report Money Paid to Doctors (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2012 OP
Good news...nt..K and R.. Stuart G Jan 2012 #1
No republican president would ever do this...that's for sure demosincebirth Jan 2012 #2
thats right and an important point for the leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #31
It's probably not their issue and they will continue to stomp their feet and demosincebirth Jan 2012 #33
This has to happen siligut Jan 2012 #3
About damn time. MADem Jan 2012 #4
My doc refuses to even *talk* to the drug reps eggplant Jan 2012 #5
+1000! Fearless Jan 2012 #6
bravo! AlecBGreen Jan 2012 #18
Prescription drug commercials do only one thing: drive up the price of your meds meow2u3 Jan 2012 #26
Not my husband. He gets all the free samples he can for his patients. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #23
my doc is good also BUT.... flpab Jan 2012 #25
Classic RW media spin in the headline drmeow Jan 2012 #7
Well caught. /nt Festivito Jan 2012 #8
An Incredibly Deceptive Headline! n/t jkappy Jan 2012 #12
I dunno. quakerboy Jan 2012 #24
I think that for those of us drmeow Jan 2012 #32
This has been needed for a long time. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #9
Universal health care is what the majority of Americans need just1voice Jan 2012 #10
Psychiatrist make more an hour if they prescribe drugs vs a talking session... midnight Jan 2012 #11
You obviously haven't been to a good psychiatrist. nt babylonsister Jan 2012 #19
Psychiatirsts Sgent Jan 2012 #20
Just more BIG government. Hotler Jan 2012 #13
Just a bandaid ... TBF Jan 2012 #14
Key word: "poised" RUMMYisFROSTED Jan 2012 #15
And to politicians? Islandlife Jan 2012 #16
For Pete's sake (who is Pete anyway?), I will choose to babylonsister Jan 2012 #17
Pharma Payola... Imagine if paying Dr's was as illeagel as paying DJ's... zaj Jan 2012 #21
They need to include Dentists and Veterinarians in this. glinda Jan 2012 #22
Notice the categories covered, it doesn't include kickbacks for script writing volume cpamomfromtexas Jan 2012 #27
Will that include the scrumptions meals delivered daily to physician practices.... Scuba Jan 2012 #28
Very encouraging nt duhneece Jan 2012 #29
I took my elderly neighbor to the doctor a while back Irishonly Jan 2012 #30

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
33. It's probably not their issue and they will continue to stomp their feet and
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jan 2012

throw tantrums like a bunch of spoiled brats because he hasn't addressed "their" issue.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
3. This has to happen
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:04 PM
Jan 2012
Analyses by The New York Times and others have found that about a quarter of doctors take cash payments from drug or device makers and that nearly two-thirds accept routine gifts of food, including lunch for staff members and dinner for themselves.


Patient care has to come first. I don't believe people go into medicine with the intention of shilling for the drug companies, but after time, slowly the money has its influence.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. About damn time.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Jan 2012

Now we can say to the doctors, "Well, I said I wanted the damn generic, and since you're going to have to report payments from drug companies anyway, you may as well give it to me without a fight, because that way you won't look like you're in their pockets."

Then watch 'em squirm.

I know a guy who works for a pharmaceutical company. He's a fantastic bullshit artist. Every year, he gets the Top Sales awards, and he gets to take his whole family to the "company picnic"--which usually lasts a week or so, in places like Hawaii or on a cruise ship.

I often ask him how he can live with himself. He laughs and drives off in his high-end Mercedes.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
5. My doc refuses to even *talk* to the drug reps
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jan 2012

And regularly tosses all of their waiting-room "literature" into the trash. He shares office space with other practices that aren't so forthright, and does this as a public service.

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
18. bravo!
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 10:32 PM
Jan 2012

Shake his hand for me next time I never understood drug commercials. "Ask your doctor about..." BULLSHIT! If you have a problem, tell your doctor about The Problem. They, being the professional, will point you in the right direction. Enough of this crap already.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
26. Prescription drug commercials do only one thing: drive up the price of your meds
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:45 AM
Jan 2012

... so they're too expensive for most people to afford without breaking the bank.

Next time you see those prescription drug ads on TV or in magazines, you might as well "ask your doctor how much kickback money the drug companies pay him to prescribe the drugs they advertise on TV, radio, and magazines."

flpab

(217 posts)
25. my doc is good also BUT....
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:12 AM
Jan 2012

they always complain about the food from the reps, they were all gaining weight. I know even my vet gets huge freebies from drug companies. I love how they take a class during their two week exotic trip and write the whole thing off on taxes. In my state the local news had a blurb about the amount of extra money certain doctors were making off drug companies. My Mom is on three blood pressure meds? Why?

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
7. Classic RW media spin in the headline
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:36 PM
Jan 2012

"US to force" - whole different emotional response than "US to require" even though both are accurate. And that is just rewording the existing title. Wouldn't it be novel if the headline read "New health care law will make drug company payments to MDs public"

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
24. I dunno.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:05 AM
Jan 2012

I kinda like the headline, and the emotional response to it.

"To force" makes me think "this is happening, and its about time", where "to require" makes me think "or what, they get a firmly worded letter?", in a slightly sarcastic tone.

The complete rewrite is probably the most passive and least informative of them, in my opinion. It sounds neutral, but it seems to indicate that it will inherently release that info. But that is not the case, is it? The drug companies will have to disclose, and I doubt they will do it willingly, as they get a sweet deal off of the kickbacks they give Dr's. So they will have to be forced.

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
32. I think that for those of us
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:35 PM
Jan 2012

who are more aware, more politically active, and more unhappy about the status quo, force in this context does not have the same connotations as people who have bought into the mindset that government is the problem and that government is dangerous. Those people see "force" and think "damn government with their boot on the neck of corporations." It also implies a "war" waged by the government. It is a very definite propaganda tool used to elicit a certain type of response in the majority of people.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
10. Universal health care is what the majority of Americans need
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jan 2012

to rid this country of the corrupt for-profit system. Nothing else even gets close to ending the corruption and never will.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
20. Psychiatirsts
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jan 2012

also make a lot more than either by doing ECT or VNS (electroshock), but that doesn't mean they do it on everyone who walks through their door.

Hotler

(11,410 posts)
13. Just more BIG government.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:05 PM
Jan 2012

I couldn't find the sarcasm thingy. I hope this goes through and pisses the drug Co's off.

TBF

(32,031 posts)
14. Just a bandaid ...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jan 2012

while it's a positive thing, it is not the long-term solution. We need single-payer health care in this country.

babylonsister

(171,048 posts)
17. For Pete's sake (who is Pete anyway?), I will choose to
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:46 PM
Jan 2012

view this as good news. iirc, the initial healthcare law had lots of things that would happen after it initially passed. This is one of them hopefully, and the fact that it wasn't dusted under a rug and is front and center has to count for something.

I REFUSE to be so negative, and view this as good news. So THERE!

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
21. Pharma Payola... Imagine if paying Dr's was as illeagel as paying DJ's...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:32 AM
Jan 2012

I've always been a little confused by Payloa laws preventing. Even more so given that it's perfectly legal for Pharma companies to pay Dr's to promote their drugs, but it's illegal for record companies to do the same for their songs.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
28. Will that include the scrumptions meals delivered daily to physician practices....
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jan 2012

.... by absolutely adorable pharmaceutical salesmen and women?

Will it include the "education" sessions that Big Pharma conducts for physicians in "therapeutic indicators" for the latest drug? Sessions conducted at upscale resorts with 30 minutes of education followed by golf, feasting and entertainment galore? Will those be reported?


The abuses in this industry are not only many and varied, they are dangerous.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
30. I took my elderly neighbor to the doctor a while back
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jan 2012

I stayed in the waiting room and got an education from a couple of reps for a pharmacutical couple. I don't think they knew I was listening. Their job was to push certain drugs from their supplier or whatever you call them. Even though they had multiple suppliers they were told to push certain drugs rather than others that would do the same thing. Corruption rules.

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