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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Sat May 15, 2021, 09:06 PM May 2021

Republican Arizona election official says Trump "unhinged"

Source: Associated Press


BY BOB CHRISTIE ASSOCIATED PRESS
MAY 15, 2021 08:42 PM

PHOENIX
The Republican who now leads the Arizona county elections department targeted by a GOP audit of the 2020 election results is slamming former President Donald Trump and others in his party for their continued falsehoods about how the election was run.

Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer on Saturday called a Trump statement accusing the county of deleting an elections database “unhinged” and called on other Republicans to stop the unfounded accusations.

. . .

Trump's statement said, in part, that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED! This is illegal and the Arizona State Senate, who is leading the Forensic Audit, is up in arms.”

Richer and the board say that statement is just plain wrong. In recent days, both he and the board have begun aggressively pushing back at what they see as continuing falsehoods from Republicans who question Trump's loss.



Read more: https://www.heraldonline.com/news/nation-world/national/article251449028.html

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Republican Arizona election official says Trump "unhinged" (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2021 OP
Completely and totally Blue Owl May 2021 #1
Live stream the destruction. sarcasmo May 2021 #16
So studip. Now Trump can say you are the problem, dummy. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #2
He's already saying they're the problem. They're disputing that. nt babylonsister May 2021 #3
He wants his goons going door to door in AZ Warpy May 2021 #4
One thing we don't see is registered voters who did not vote claiming they were recorded as having brewens May 2021 #9
the secrecy of the ballot is not being compromised -- that a person voted is not secret cadoman May 2021 #10
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE COME TO MY DOOR!! AZ8theist May 2021 #12
That's what happens when law-enforcement only send sternly-worded letters to cRiminal$ Justice matters. May 2021 #17
Ding! Ding! -- criminal racketeering charges are long overdue Ponietz May 2021 #21
Well... these cRiminal$ R mostly "white" so... Justice matters. May 2021 #23
He wants Death Squads going door to door. NBachers May 2021 #20
You'd think someone who supposedly... SergeStorms May 2021 #5
It's as if Citizen Kane was based on Trump instead of Hearst /nt localroger May 2021 #8
Rosebud Marcuse May 2021 #11
Isn't Ivanka rich enough now that Ilsa May 2021 #19
She might be the only one... SergeStorms May 2021 #22
I thought that when he was campaigning for 2016. tanyev May 2021 #28
It's not just his family. Most of the Republican party is in denial of reality along with him muriel_volestrangler May 2021 #31
I doubt anyone in his family loves Trump. Lonestarblue May 2021 #32
I still believe a lot of Republicans had their hands in the Russian oligarch cookie jar. C Moon May 2021 #33
Anyone know the status of the lawsuits on this? lordsummerisle May 2021 #6
I get that the article is news... MissMillie May 2021 #7
And the Pope's catholic and bears do their business in the woods. Pretty soon they'll learn how Gaugamela May 2021 #13
Who you gonna believe? The government man who threw the election to Biden, or President Trump? Midnight Writer May 2021 #14
This seems absolutely insane. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #15
To the citizens in Arizona you have choice...and it's a pretty big.....choice.... turbinetree May 2021 #18
This Is McCarthyism On Steroids DallasNE May 2021 #24
Did he just notice? sakabatou May 2021 #25
Want to find a crime, spend the multigraincracker May 2021 #26
Even the biased nutjobs hired to do the Voltaire2 May 2021 #27
Trump is in denial. He needs help. bucolic_frolic May 2021 #29
There is good news though bucolic_frolic May 2021 #30

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. He wants his goons going door to door in AZ
Sat May 15, 2021, 09:29 PM
May 2021

questioning everybody on how they voted to see if they match the numbered ballots they cast. You know, in total violation of the secret ballot we've always relied on in this country to prevent exactly this sort of thing, goons going door to door and leaning on people to say they voted the "right" way, be a shame to have anything happen to your house/car/kids.

What they're trying for is absolutely insane. I have to hope all the states they're questioning tell them to go to hell.

brewens

(13,573 posts)
9. One thing we don't see is registered voters who did not vote claiming they were recorded as having
Sat May 15, 2021, 10:00 PM
May 2021

voted. Most people don't check that, but if there were large numbers of mail-in ballots somehow sneaked in, they would have to be matched to registered voters.

I asked a local republican activist if she had a million bucks to get our local state rep 1000 more illegal votes next election, what scenario was even possible? No answer. These people have no idea how anyone would pull that off.

It would have to be registered voters that were not voting somehow, or just bribing people to vote for her guy when they otherwise wouldn't. How would they know who to approach? Even with big chunks of money, you wouldn't get far before you were turned in.

cadoman

(792 posts)
10. the secrecy of the ballot is not being compromised -- that a person voted is not secret
Sat May 15, 2021, 10:04 PM
May 2021

The voter rolls and party affiliations are essentially public information, though you have to go through a few hoops ($$$) in some states to get it. Political parties buy this information and analyze it for demographic patterns to determine what kind of political bulk mailings to put you on. For instance, you wouldn't bother sending mail to someone who reliably voted in opposing party primaries, and you'd more aggressively court a new voter with no affiliation.

The conspiracy they're seeking to affirm here is people using mailboxes and empty buildings as their home address. Because that theory has been thoroughly debunked it stands to reason they're just wasting their time and $$$.

"The voters would be asked whether they voted, and if they voted in person or by mail. The plan says no voters will be asked who they voted for."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/updated-answers-to-your-questions-about-the-arizona-senates-audit-of-2020-election-results-in-maricopa-county/ar-BB1g4NPq

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
17. That's what happens when law-enforcement only send sternly-worded letters to cRiminal$
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:36 PM
May 2021
Refusing to ACT by rounding them, charging them for violating Federal Law and shutting down their sham.

Ponietz

(2,960 posts)
21. Ding! Ding! -- criminal racketeering charges are long overdue
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:11 AM
May 2021

It’s as if open criminality is now an attractive political choice. The FBI turns a blind eye and busies itself with little fish.

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
23. Well... these cRiminal$ R mostly "white" so...
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:19 AM
May 2021
Imagine if they were mostly POCs, they'd probably already be waiting trial in jail (if not worse).

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
5. You'd think someone who supposedly...
Sat May 15, 2021, 09:36 PM
May 2021

loves Trump, you know, like a wife, son, or daughter, would have a long talk with the Orange Dork and tell him he's lost touch with reality.

You would think someone would do that, but you'd be wrong. Trump even rules his family with fear, and they're all afraid they'll be cut out of his will if they tell him the truth. Imagine that, not loving your husband or father enough to get him psychiatric treatment. What a sad, sad family they are. I almost pity them. Almost.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
19. Isn't Ivanka rich enough now that
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:59 PM
May 2021

her husband was bailed out of his bad investments? She needs to talk to him about his health. He looks like crap in all of the pics I've seen.

Maybe the kids are hoping he'll die sooner rather than later.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
22. She might be the only one...
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:15 AM
May 2021

that could make some headway into his......head. She's getting to the age where she's almost too old for him now, though. He really should forget his looney fantasies and enjoy life with the time he has remaining. As wealthy as he is, or isn't, I don't think he's ever really enjoyed life or his loved ones. I guess you actually have to love someone to get love in return, though, and Donnie doesn't love anyone but himself. He's a sad, sad man.

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
28. I thought that when he was campaigning for 2016.
Sun May 16, 2021, 08:49 AM
May 2021

But after observing the whole family in action for over 4 years, I now think that they don't see reality much clearer than Donny does.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
31. It's not just his family. Most of the Republican party is in denial of reality along with him
Sun May 16, 2021, 09:52 AM
May 2021

Most of their House reps voted to kick out Liz Cheney for stating the truth. Most Republican voters think the election was stolen from him. He has a support group of millions, with billions of dollars. Of course he's not backing down.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
32. I doubt anyone in his family loves Trump.
Sun May 16, 2021, 10:12 AM
May 2021

He is a self-centered SOB who cares for no one but himself. He only looks at Ivanka as a sex object, which should make any daughter more than uncomfortable. I think they all know that he is descending into dementia as his father did before him, and, like the vultures they are, the three oldest ones are just waiting to manipulate him and take over to ensure that they get the lion’s share of whatever is left. It seems to be a family trait to cheat siblings out of their inheritance.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
33. I still believe a lot of Republicans had their hands in the Russian oligarch cookie jar.
Mon May 17, 2021, 01:54 AM
May 2021

So this goes beyond Trmp.
I think Trmp is just a point of contact for the Russian oligarchs.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
6. Anyone know the status of the lawsuits on this?
Sat May 15, 2021, 09:37 PM
May 2021

I would have thought a federal judge would have shut this down by now.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
13. And the Pope's catholic and bears do their business in the woods. Pretty soon they'll learn how
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:02 PM
May 2021

babies are made.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
14. Who you gonna believe? The government man who threw the election to Biden, or President Trump?
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:08 PM
May 2021

I hate to see this BS go on in my country, but I can't muster any sympathy for Republicans who are getting screwed over by the people they support, that they voted for, that they worked to get into power.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
15. This seems absolutely insane.
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:32 PM
May 2021

But, thinking about it for about half a second, I see that it's only about a half step farther than his other lunacy, if at all. What is different is that he has ended up trying to drag people into his fever dream that don't want to be dragged.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
18. To the citizens in Arizona you have choice...and it's a pretty big.....choice....
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:38 PM
May 2021

every "fascist" loving republican that is allowing this sham to continue should be removed from office

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall_in_Arizona

Laws governing recall in Arizona are defined in Article 8 of the Arizona Constitution.

The authority to conduct a recall election in Arizona applies to "Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment."[1]

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
24. This Is McCarthyism On Steroids
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:25 AM
May 2021

Unhinged, unfounded accusations was the centerpiece of McCarthy's attacks on the Army. The very Army that 10 years earlier won WW II. That generation was called the greatest generation for a reason but that didn't stop Joseph McCarthy. It wasn't until someone pushed back and challenged McCarthy with the question "have you no shame?).

Because of the dynamics, this Republican pushing back saying the "statement is just plain wrong" will have no effect. Not when entertainment networks like Fox News is out there putting out the Trump misinformation. This is the poster boy for why deregulation is a guaranteed disaster. Bring back the fairness doctrine and truth in advertising. Shut down the misinformation. It is tearing the country apart in the exact manner predicted. Roll back Reaganism and its companion McCarthyism.

Voltaire2

(13,009 posts)
27. Even the biased nutjobs hired to do the
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:31 AM
May 2021

audit are coming up with nothing. So now they have to concoct a conspiracy to explain this.

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