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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,920 posts)
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:09 PM Jun 2021

GOP senators push for Hill veto power over a future U.S.-Iran deal

Source: Politico

A group of Republican senators introduced a bill on Friday that would require President Joe Biden to secure congressional approval for any new diplomatic agreement with Iran to curtail its nuclear program.

The bill, led by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), would give the Senate veto power over any attempt by the Biden administration to reenter the 2015 U.S.-Iran nuclear deal — which was effectively dissolved when former President Donald Trump withdrew from the pact in 2018 — by deeming it a treaty, which mandates approval from the upper chamber.

The GOP proposal comes as top Biden officials are holding indirect talks with the Iranians in Vienna in a bid to revive the Obama-era deal, which Republicans uniformly opposed. GOP lawmakers have introduced several measures aimed at preventing Biden from lifting the biting sanctions that Trump imposed on Tehran as part of his administration’s “maximum pressure” doctrine.

“Any potential agreement with Iran involves risks that affect our entire nation. It is critical to the security of America and to world peace that any deal Biden negotiates with Iran be deemed a treaty requiring approval by the U.S. Senate,” Johnson said.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senators-push-for-hill-veto-power-over-a-future-u-s-iran-deal/ar-AAKWONg

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GOP senators push for Hill veto power over a future U.S.-Iran deal (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 OP
will never see the light of day hahahahahahahhhaha, dream on fascists nt yaesu Jun 2021 #1
What's that expression the Brits use? Oh, yeah...Sod Off. pecosbob Jun 2021 #2
yup that's it. Layzeebeaver Jun 2021 #11
Corrupt AF and with side of stupidity courage in cringeworthy never ending bully session? Brainfodder Jun 2021 #3
Fucking idiots still don't understand that they don't get to call the shots any more. canuckledragger Jun 2021 #4
damn straightforward & love it !!! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #8
Ummm....no. paleotn Jun 2021 #5
No. catrose Jun 2021 #6
Isn't a treaty a preferrable outcome over an agreement? Jansen Jun 2021 #7
Right, but... caraher Jun 2021 #14
This sounds just like what the GOP pulls in WI - hamstringing. Firestorm49 Jun 2021 #9
Good luck! George II Jun 2021 #10
Typical droidamus2 Jun 2021 #12
Short answer Botany Jun 2021 #13
Constitution states Bidens need 2/3s of Senate to go along with a treaty StClone Jun 2021 #15
On the other hand, he can blow off the treaty on a whim, like Dubya did in 2001 LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2021 #17
Perhaps a treaty is best lonely bird Jun 2021 #16

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
3. Corrupt AF and with side of stupidity courage in cringeworthy never ending bully session?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jun 2021

Elections have consequences!



canuckledragger

(1,636 posts)
4. Fucking idiots still don't understand that they don't get to call the shots any more.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jun 2021

It doesn't matter how much they pout, whine and try to bully others to get their way.

Elections have consequences, assholes. Deal with it.

Jansen

(105 posts)
7. Isn't a treaty a preferrable outcome over an agreement?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 04:50 PM
Jun 2021

A treaty would make it more difficult for future president/majorities to undo, correct?

caraher

(6,278 posts)
14. Right, but...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jun 2021

good luck passing a treaty with this Senate. And when Obama negotiated the first deal, Republicans held the Senate.

droidamus2

(1,699 posts)
12. Typical
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:40 PM
Jun 2021

This seems to be the mo for the Republicans if you can't win the leadership positions i.e. governor, secretary of state or president they do what they can to move the power to whatever position or body they control. They are not interested in democracy or the will of the people only their power and what they want for the wealthy donors.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
13. Short answer
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:49 PM
Jun 2021

No.

Ever since they got their asses kicked in 2018 and 2020 they have been trying to get away
with everything possible. Fuck 'em. The President, his Sec. of State, and his people get to
call the shots on this. It is in the Constitution. BTW the deal that John Kerry and Ernie Moniz
got done was perfect it was so good after Trump pulled out of it he demanded that Iran follow
that deal/

StClone

(11,683 posts)
15. Constitution states Bidens need 2/3s of Senate to go along with a treaty
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:01 PM
Jun 2021

If this would fall under Treaty...

...The Treaty Clause empowers the President to make or enter into treaties ONLY with the "advice and consent" of at least two-thirds of the Senate.

17. On the other hand, he can blow off the treaty on a whim, like Dubya did in 2001
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jun 2021

when he withdrew the U.S. from the landmark 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty with the USSR. No reason was given (Bush issued a statement in which he noted that the treaty is “now behind us,”) and the action didn't require Senate approval.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
16. Perhaps a treaty is best
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:02 PM
Jun 2021

Of course, we can’t deal directly one-on-one with Iran because of our pride. So let us say an agreement is reached. Doubtful it would pass the senate. They would simply filibuster and Manchin and/or Sinema would vote with the Republicans.

As for a threat to world peace? The Republican Party is a bigger threat to world peace.

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