Golf pro, 2 others fatally shot at Atlanta-area country club

[groundloop]

Source: ABC News

A professional golfer and two other men were killed in a shooting at an Atlanta-area country club and the suspect is still at large, authorities said.

Officers found an unresponsive man with an apparent gunshot wound to the head Saturday afternoon near the 10th hole of the golf course at Pinetree Country Club in Kennesaw, Cobb County Police Officer Shenise Barner told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The department identified him Sunday as country club employee and golfer Eugene Siller.

“Tragedy has stricken the Georgia Section PGA in the loss of our Member, Gene Siller. Thoughts and prayers for his family and the Pinetree Country Club family,” the Georgia section of the Professional Golfers’ Association of America said in a tweet.

Upon further investigation, police said two other dead men were discovered in the bed of a white pickup truck that was on the green. Both had apparent gunshot wounds. Barner said one was identified as Paul Pierson, the registered owner of the truck, and that the other man has not been identified.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/golf-pro-fatally-shot-atlanta-area-country-club-78666388

[mahatmakanejeeves]

1. Another incident? In addition to the one I read about yesterday? NT

[PatSeg]

4. It appears to be related to the story from yesterday

That one only mentioned the shooting of the golf pro and a white truck, which had not been located yet.

[Maxheader]

2. Think the heat drives the fringe out of the woods...

Got me. Maybe the sociological experts can explain the

the increase in gun homicides? What's that you say?..

[RAB910]

3. I have been told in no uncertain terms that this huge uptick in gun violence

has nothing to do with the right's efforts to arm every criminal, crazy, and terrorist

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Every golfer will want to own a gun that looks like a putter

because they want to be the good guy with a golf club

[Tiger8]

8. Can they shoot their opponent's ball out of the sky?

Seems like the "good gun with a gun" now includes anybody who uses their gun to shoot at a ball of somebody they don't like.

Can you shoot at the ball if it doesn't make the hole? How about your opponent's clubs? Does the PGA need to include a chapter of what happens when a gun is used to affect the score?

The gun insanity must stop. Sounds like the shooter needed a truck, so he killed somebody driving a truck, so he could use the truck to drive over and kill the golf pro.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Leading to the video game

Golf Pro Splat!

The absurdity writes itself, that is how precariously far on the fringe red hat society has become.

[Tiger8]

14. Like using a $2,500 assault rifle to get coffee?

This utter nonsense is only going to get worse.

This cost to make one of these killing machines is probably $25, and the only thing it will ever do is cause death and suffering. So, who wins? Not the gun owner who ends up dead or in jail. Certainly not the dead and terrorized victims. Not the tax payers who pay the law enforcement and medical bills. All this suffering, so the gun industry can collect a $2,475 profit.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

45. Don't know much about guns do you?

Nobody carries an assault rifle to a coffee shop, or goes shopping with an assault rifle.

There is a huge difference between a semi auto rifle, AR-15, AK-47 clone, etc., and an assault rifle, one is a semi auto, one trigger pull, one round, whereas, an assault rifle is a select fire rifle.

One requires an extensive background check, a $200.00 tax stamp and numerous other restrictions, whereas an semi auto requires only a background check to purchase.

And just where would one buy an assault rifle for $2500.00
The cheapest assault rifle, if you can find one for saie, will run upwards of several thousand dollars.
No new full auto have been sold to the public since the GCA of 1986, those that were legally owned already were grandfathered in and can still be sold, but one better be prepared to jump through the hoops to buy one and spend gobs of money.

Educate thyself before posting nonsense.

[Tiger8]

47. I know more than you, obviously

Moronic gun nut in Starbucks with an assault rifle.

https://www.newsweek.com/assault-rifle-starbucks-open-carry-activist-debate-twitter-mass-shooter-1453145#slideshow/1518286

I don't hate guns - just the morons who buy the right wing crap about "freedom" to carry guns out in places like Starbucks. And it doesn't matter what they cost. I know the profit margins are enormous - as are the social costs.

I see you are a truck driver, and yes, I think you have a reason to carry. But the idiot in the pic above? No.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

48. That's not an assault rifle,

it's an AR-15, which is a semi auto.
An assault rifle would be what the military, of which i have an extensive background in, issues to it's service personnel, which is currently the M-4, which is a select fire rifle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

I also don't hate guns, I support private citizens owning guns as long as they're legally allowed to,
but for me, after 35 years in the Corps, I have no use for any guns, so I don't own any, but I am well versed in firearms.

[Bucky]

7. You gotta wonder if drugs or money laundering is involved

The sort of scene you see in action/thriller movies.

[magicarpet]

9. A James Bond golf thriller movie ?

[Bucky]

15. Bond playing golf... that would be unimaginable!!

[Rocknation]

30. Or maybe it's a political statement

A far left attack on the far right? A far right attack disguised as a far left attack on the far right? A far left attack disguised as a far right attack on the far left disguised as an attack on the far right?

Or maybe it's just personal -- a jilted lover, a disgruntled employee, ex-employee, or didn't-get-to-be-an-employee...


rocktivity

[underpants]

10. I saw this headline today and the story just kept getting weirder.

I didn’t recognize the name. He was the golf pro there from what I can tell. How horribly tragic.

[TeamProg]

11. More gun crap! So, guns don't kill people?

Could the killer be the husband of a female golfing student that Mr. Siller was having an affair with?


I hope Siller's wife publicly denounces guns in the coming years.

[Mawspam2]

18. Guns don't kill people...

...Golfers kill people! Ban golfing!

[TeamProg]

31. A gun was used, not a golf club, but sure, I'm fine with banning

golf (bad for the environment) AND GUNS.

Especially HAND GUNS and Semi-Auto rifles.

Thank you!

[hlthe2b]

13. Kennesaw passed a requirement mandating gun ownership in '82.. part of Newt's old district

and where the sale in confederate civil war memorabilia was a thriving market at every gun and antique shop.

I'm sure none of this has any bearing....

[oldsoftie]

19. Kennesaw IS one of the safest suburban Atlanta cities.

I think its 2nd only to Marietta in crime rates.
That law has never actually been enforced. As far as I know no one has ever gotten in trouble for NOT owning a gun.

[hlthe2b]

20. Defending such RW nonsense, eh, oldsoftie.

Kennesaw is not far from Woodstock, the residence of the racist killer of 8 only a short time ago. Crime is relative. If you think their gun stunt is ensuring low crime in Kennesaw while crime throughout the Metro Atlanta area is surging, I've got news for you.

[oldsoftie]

21. Merely stating a fact that i guess you dont like

But it is still a fact.
Did you even READ the whole post? I said no one has ever been charged under that gun law. So it may as well not exist.

[hlthe2b]

22. You might have eaten toast this morning yet did not contract COVID. That doesn't mean eating

toast protected you from infection any more than this RW stunt has decreased crime in Kennesaw.

Correlation is NOT Causation.

[oldsoftie]

23. Again, the law hasnt been enforced.

The law has never been enforced, making it meaningless. Do a lot of Kennesaw residents own guns? I dont know. Its GA, so its likely. Last I read, yes. But the '82 law didnt have anything to do with it. They already HAD high ownership
But it is still one of the safest Atlanta suburbs even with the gun ownership.I guess you'd prefer that not be the case, ok, fine. Nothing i've stated is a "RW talking point". Why is that always the "go to" comment when someone doesnt like something.

[hlthe2b]

24. what part of "stunt" did you not understand?

Your argument belongs on a RW or NRA propaganda website.

SNOPES weighs in with this ridiculous false assertion:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kennesaw-gun-law/

[oldsoftie]

25. Snopes refers to a point I never asserted. Sorry.

If anything, I dismissed the law totally, since its never been used.
But the city remains one of the safest in that area of the state. But hey, at least you probably also looked that up

[hlthe2b]

27. I know Kennesaw and the outer communities of Atlanta QUITE well, including their KKK

and pro-gun RW attitudes, that you appear to be defending.

Why you defend the racist and pro-gun at any cost attitudes of this historically unrepentant pro-confederacy town and its regressive stunts and policies is an apt question, however.

[NickB79]

28. After reading this exchange, I haven't seen one example of "defending the racist"

Perhaps you'd quote that part for me?

[hlthe2b]

29. Kennnesaw passed that requirement as a result of racism that was pervasive at the time

coinciding with nearby Woodstock sponsoring KKK rallies and continued "white flight." hysteria. The poster is defending this stunt and even suggesting it was the cause of decreased crime in this small community. Snopes long ago addressed this RW meme and the NRA fans promoting it. If they know this community and the history as they claim, they know THAT as well.

[Dial H For Hero]

32. Nowhere did the poster defend that law. Nor did they say the law was the cause of decreased crime.

In point of fact, they called the law “meaningless”. You would do well to apologize for your mischaracterization of their position.

[hlthe2b]

33. They defended this abysmal stunt that was used to attack Dems throughout the 80s and 90s.

I owe them nothing. You, on the other hand, need to do some reading. You are grossly ill-informed and on the very wrong side of this unless you intended to defend RW propaganda memes. This attitude towards guns has brought us the debacle we have today with a mass killing every damned day. Is this REALLY what you want to be defending? Really?

[Dial H For Hero]

34. Doubling down, eh? Tell you what: give us a direct quote from them which defends that law.

Word for word, mind you.

[hlthe2b]

35. Defense of 'guns for all' is not worth my time, but only worthy of contempt.

Since you are buying into this the same goes for any further interaction with you. Don't you think we've had ENOUGH carnage?

I care about sensible gun control. Apparently, you are fine with a community to advocate MORE GUNS even while their motivation was racist and as despicable as it comes. Not to mention the attempts (which the poster echoed) to suggest this move drove down crime. As Snopes clearly lays out, it DID NOT.

Is THAT what you call "Heroic?"

[Dial H For Hero]

36. Let the audience note that hlthe2b couldn't manage a single quote.

We’re still waiting. Quote them word for word where they defend this law.

[hlthe2b]

37. I can't help it if you are unable to comprehend what was stated and implied.

Inform yourself. I am not your tutor.

[Dial H For Hero]

38. It's incumbent upon you to defend your assertions, not me. Where's the quote?

Failure to provide it only continues to undermine your credibility.

[hlthe2b]

39. Honey, you can demand all the attention you want all day long...

No one HAS to accommodate YOU.


I learned a long time ago not to waste time on those who push memes or positions that are despicable.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

46. It's very easy to admit you were wrong instead of continuing to stick

to a false narrative.
We're all wrong at times, it's no big deal.

[oldsoftie]

40. Thanks to both posters for pointing out the fallacies of your statements

I never "defended" the law; I pointed out that it was never enforced & meaningless. Your own Snopes link states that the reason they passed the law was in response to an Illinois town banning handguns, not "racism". I live in Ga & remember it pretty well. it was big news. And bringing up the city of Woodstock & whatever they did or didnt do with the klan, is silly. In the Atlanta area being 10 miles apart is being in another world. Your obsession is sad. My initial point is correct, you simply dont like it & want to link it to nonsense.

[hlthe2b]

41. No. I was there at the time. Believe what you want.

Obviously, it is important to you to defend the horrendous policies of this and other communities from the past. I'd focus on changing things if I were you, but that's just me. Defending them only tells us more about you.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

42. You have been mischaracterizing oldsoftie's position, let me add to the chorus

And basically attacking them for what is a straw man that you've conjured, not what was actually said.

Ya know I love ya, but I'm sorry, that's the way it is in this case.

[ProfessorGAC]

43. +1

Well said, Hugh.

[Dial H For Hero]

44. Not a problem. It never ceases to amaze me how deep a hole some people will dig for themselves

just because they won’t admit they were wrong.

[heckles65]

16. I've always said that that turning point of the Vietnam War

wasn't the Tet Offensive so much as when the Selective Service went to a lottery system. Why? When rich peoples' lives are at stake, THEN you get a quick response to a bad condition.

Here you have random shootings, not in an inner city neighborhood but at a golf club, the very symbol of wealth of privilege. Think this will break through a few iron heads?

[twodogsbarking]

17. Three people are dead and other lives are affected.

Some of the comments are disgusting. I'll come back tomorrow.

[oldsoftie]

26. I'm gald you said it.

Already we have speculation about cheating spouses. Among other things.

[Devil Child]

49. Lone shooter in custody

Click this link for additional information.

Suspect is one Bryan Rhoden who has an extensive criminal history.