Ultra-contagious COVID Delta variant "wreaking havoc" worldwide
Source: Salon
"This is devastating. And it didn't have to happen. The world urgently needs a People's Vaccine"
By Jake Johnson Published July 5, 2021 4:30PM (EDT)
In Bangladesh, troops are preparing to patrol the streets to enforce newly imposed stay-at-home orders. Australia, recently heralded as a pandemic success story, is returning to strict lockdowns. Scotland is seeing a record-breaking surge in new coronavirus infections. Indonesia is teetering on the edge of a public health catastrophe.
While many rich nations continue to ease public health guidelines as they gradually move in the direction of normalcy, an ultra-contagious Covid-19 mutation known as the Delta variant is spreading like wildfire in countries that have struggled to vaccinate their populations and in communities that have refused to participate in inoculation drives, forcing governments to resort to drastic measures contain the damage.
"The new curbs on travel and daily life stretched from Australia and Bangladesh to South Africa and Germany, where authorities over the weekend set new limits on travelers from 'virus-variant zones' such as Portugal and Russia," the Washington Post reported Monday. "South Africa on Sunday extended a nightly curfew and introduced a ban on gatherings, alcohol sales, indoor dining, and some domestic travel for 14 days to halt a worrying surge in cases driven by the Delta variant."
First detected in India, the Delta variant is rapidly emerging as the dominant coronavirus strain across the globe. The mutationwhich is estimated to be 60% more transmissible than the highly contagious Alpha varianthas now been detected in more than 80 countries, and it accounts for over a third of all new cases in the United States........................................
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Delta Most Common Covid-19 Variant in U.S., Data Show
CDC says fully vaccinated Americans dont need to wear face masks despite variants spread
https://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-most-common-covid-19-variant-in-u-s-data-show-11625092580?mod=e2tw
Updated June 30, 2021 8:01 pm ET
The highly transmissible Delta variant is the most common strain of the Covid-19 virus circulating in the U.S., new data showed, but federal health officials said fully vaccinated people dont necessarily need to put on face masks again.
An analysis of genetic sequencing data as of June 27 showed that the Delta strain, also known as B.1.617.2, now makes up about 40% of positive Covid-19 test samples, according to Helix, a population genomics company that collects and analyzes test samples from several U.S. states.
tanyev
(42,541 posts)to try to get just a few more people to change their minds and go get a free shot that is easily available.
PortTack
(32,754 posts)IronLionZion
(45,411 posts)Delta shmelta
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)The reported number of covid cases is extremely misleading - it needs to clearly separate unvaccinated cases from vaccinated. In CA, virtually all cases are among unvaccinated, only ONE fully vaccinated covid 19 infection per 2,500 cases. Considering that there are less than 2,000 cases per day, there is only one or zero infections daily in the entire state of 42M. This is the number that matter most for both fully vaccinated and unvaccinated.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ktvu.com/news/breakthrough-covid-cases-is-rare-in-california.amp
I repeat the covid-19 pandemic in the US is over for fully vaccinated individuals. But just like trump was profitable for mass media so is the pandemic. Negative news bring more ad revenue.
IronLionZion
(45,411 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,016 posts)saying it's OVER for the fully vaccinated may be a bridge too far.
There are still more than enough virus factories in this country and worldwide that could produce a variant that could significantly nullify our current vaccines. Using language like it's over for vaccinated individuals is dangerous. Raising awareness that vaccinated individuals are much more safe than unvaccinated individuals is very important as you say and I agree, that should be included in the stats. But until this country or the world reaches a level of immunity that can outpace the odds of rapid mutation of the virus it's not over for anyone.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I follow the progressive pastor, John Pavlovitz, on Facebook. His family consists of four members. Three vaccinated. The fourth, an eleven year old child unvaccinated.
They went on vacation. All four now have COVID and hes experiencing pretty intense symptoms. So thats three vaccinated people in one family.
The pandemic is not yet over and Im going to continue to mask.
Deminpenn
(15,273 posts)Further, now that the mRNA technology has been tested and verified, booster or annual shots that account for various mutations will be quickly developed and readily available.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Good luck with that.
ShazzieB
(16,357 posts)My husband and I have been fully vaccinated since April, and we live in a state that has reached Biden's 70% vaccinated level. After almost 15 months of having a mask mandate and varying levels of other safety precautions in place, things are loosening up. Per CDC recommendations, masks are now optional for vaccinated people. It feels pretty good, tbh.
The CDC is telling me I don't need to wear a mask now. My state, which has been very strict about masks until very recently, is telling me I don't need to wear one at this point. But I keep reading and hearing scary stuff about the Delta variant, and I'm at the point where I don't know what to believe anymore. I really want to believe that the pandemic is over over for fully vaccinated people as you say, but I feel like I'm getting bombarded with conflicting messages about things like breakthrough infections and asymptomatic infections that could lead to passing the disease to others even though I'm not sick myself. It's.... confusing af.
I am NOT an antivaxxer or a mask scoffer. I literally couldn't WAIT to get vaccinated. I was 100% compliant with my state's mask mandate as long as it was in effect, but now that it's been lifted, I've begun to enjoy the changes, and, well, I really don't want to go back.
Deminpenn
(15,273 posts)Thank you for pointing out the truth.
madville
(7,408 posts)COVID is here to stay, in five years well be talking about the new Sierra or Tango variant so I think most people are just ready to move on and take their chances in exchange for normalcy.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)an endemic disease and we'll most likely be dealing with it for the rest of our lives.
The question will become what do we, as a society, consider to be "acceptable losses" per annum. Every country out there will have to answer that for themselves.
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)in what you have written.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,578 posts)Didn't Herr Leader tell them so? Besides, he had had a case and was back to work in a couple of days, notwithstanding his physicians lying about his condition, which was a lot more serious than was presented to the public. It seems getting a honest report about Fat Donnie's health was a hard as getting his tax returns.
Anyway, if the vaccine was a good thing, T***** would have gotten one. Oh, that's right -- he did get a shot, he just didn't do it as a public event as a means of setting an example for his followers.
IronLionZion
(45,411 posts)but won't take the vaccine that came from that project.
Ironically, Pence and several other GOP leaders did take it publicly to encourage others but they don't care about that. Several GOP governors have taken it in front of cameras to encourage their constituents to do the same, but nope.
I bet even Tucker Carlson has taken it quietly but will never admit it.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)The "move in the direction of normalcy" here is nothing but an illusion that may produce unknown consequences.
Due to the total population of the U.S. being relatively "large" (330+ million and currently 3rd largest in the world behind China and India), where the populations of each state could correspond to a typical country, the number of unvaccinated here amounts to the total populations of many of the smaller countries with a low vaccination rate.
So in reality, we are not doing that much better when you look at the "pockets" of unvaccinated here in the U.S. despite having access that others around the world don't have. That decision-making falls squarely on the nonsensical policies promoted and implemented by the leadership of certain states that mirror many of the same policies and lackadaisical approaches adopted by miscreant world leaders.
One of the issues also now being brought up among health officials in the U.S. are all the missed 2nd shots for those who were in the 2-shot Pfizer or Moderna regime. This is going to factor in somewhere in the future since despite the fact that the first shot of each might prime the immune system initially, it doesn't provide the body enough lead time to battle an infection sufficiently to reduce the amount of viral load that could be shed (if the person gets infected). That 2nd shot is needed to complete the body's "invader recognition training", which would prompt the triggering of a much faster response to, and battle against an infection.
wnylib
(21,421 posts)difference of the US compared to other countries. I have been wondering about this. Due to our size, it will take longer for the US to reach the infection stage of some other highly vaccinated smaller countries that are now experiencing outbreaks and hospitalizations even among vaccinated people. We point to statistics now as if they won't change, when we're just moving slower in reaching higher statistics than smaller countries.
We can lull ourselves into believing that it's all over as Delta spreads here while newer, worse variants evolve in less vaccinated countries - or maybe here.
This is a pattern that occured in the 1918 flu pandemic. After a couple waves circulated the globe, it seemed to die down. Cases decreased significantly. Then, another wave occurred just when people thought the worst was over. We couldn't track variants then like we can today, but probably a new mutated variant had developed somewhere and slowly spread until it became a new wave. Travel took longer then, slowing down the spread of the latest variant until it eventually surged.
That happens more quickly now.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)If you think about it, the 1918 pandemic did have a slightly different type of world spread in terms of transport, where although there were no commercial flights to speed it to multiple places at once, you did have "steamer" ships of people. But as we saw with the cruise ships with COVID-19, the steamers had that concentrated population on the ship that could offload a larger number of infected at some large port city, than an aircraft could at the same city. And then from there, those infected spread out to their final destinations via a similar concentrated travel, except by train. Of course the other issue then was that it happened during WWI, so you had a more mobile refugee population due to that war, both within Europe via train (concentrated transport), and between Europe and the U.S., including the U.S. military going both ways, mostly via ship.
As with most respiratory diseases, the lulls tend to be seasonal, which is clearly seen with the various waves for both pandemics, although the fact that this Delta variant is surging in some places during a "traditionally" lower transmission time of year in the northern hemisphere, is concerning.
wnylib
(21,421 posts)the transmission in 1918 - 1920 via troops being transported in WWI. I don't know if records from the time support my idea on leisure travel, but I'm thinking thst, after German subs had sunk merchant marine and passenger ships (Luisitania, for example) earlier in the war, by 1918 passenger cruises probably diminished.
People didn't travel as quickly and easily as today, when daily flights to anywhere in the world by ordinary people, not just elites, is common. So it took longer for a new strain to spread, while old strains died out, leaving lulls in between. During the lulls, people thought that a bad "flu season" was over, not realizing that it was a new, mutating flu virus that would recur over and over.
Without a vaccine, herd immunity after several million deaths finally stopped the 1918 flu virus.
I think that a similar pattern is going on with covid, but in less time because of modern travel. But, it still takes longer for a large country like the US to reach the statistical proportions of infection that we are seeing now in smaller countries. IMO, it is a mistake to quote today's US statistics as "proof" that what is happening in other countries will not happen here. It just hasn't reached that level yet. The numbers will change here, significantly.
JCMach1
(27,555 posts)However, I haven't anything on length of immunity, or resistance to Delta.
Way better than nothing..... But
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)that getting some people scheduled to "come back" was going to be hard considering what it took for many of them to even get a first shot due to appointment fiascos (and so many who had no internet access to even go through that process early on).
It will certainly be a test for these mRNAs as I know everyone's body's will respond differently - whether with a first shot or full 2 shots and I do recall seeing a recent report at how persistent the mRNA-trained immune reaction is many months post-vaccination, which is good.
diane in sf
(3,913 posts)RussBLib
(9,006 posts)I'd say the world is going through a rough patch these days. Ditto in my personal sphere.
And I see so many carrying on as before.
I think we are in a bad sci-fi novel.
wnylib
(21,421 posts)Not with a nuclear bang, but with a viral cough.
I don't think it's that drastic, at least not yet. But ....? If people don't get past their apparent murder/suicide by virus attitudes, it will get much worse.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)"South Africa on Sunday extended a nightly curfew and introduced a ban on gatherings, alcohol sales, indoor dining, and some domestic travel for 14 days to halt a worrying surge in cases driven by the Delta variant."
It's not like the virus only comes out at night.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)Because most socializing happens in the evening, the curfew is to essentially underscore and reinforce the ban of certain types of concentrated activities that have been documented to cause higher levels of spread - at bars, restaurants, and parties where masking is usually eschewed, and that tend to happen more at night when a typical work day is done.
And in the case of South Africa, since they are in the southern hemisphere like Australia (where Australia seems to get more "press" about being in the southern hemisphere than many other countries that are ALSO below the equator, notably on the geographically marginalized continents of Africa and South America), then they are in their astronomical/meteorological "winter" like Australia, which is when waves tend to happen.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)But the world could do with a lower human population. 1-2 billion people would be perfect, and we have 4x that many people here.
ProfessorPlum
(11,254 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Mass murderous racist philosophies throughout history say the same damn thing.
IronLionZion
(45,411 posts)than hoping others die in a pandemic