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peppertree

(21,624 posts)
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:32 PM Jul 2021

Partial roof collapse leads to evacuation in Northwest Miami-Dade

Source: CBS

A building in Northwest Miami-Dade has been evacuated after a partial roof collapse.

According to Miami-Dade Fire Rescue, units responded to a Level 1 MCI, involving a partial roof collapse at Lake View Garden Condominium off NW 68 Ave and NW 179th Street.

CBS4 News learned the damage is to the three-story building but it does not affect the building’s structure it’s self and if only superficially.

In a video from Chopper 4, pieces of the roof overhang can be seen on the ground below and one resident we spoke to says he’s not surprised it happened.

Read more: https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/15/partial-roof-collapse-evacuation-northwest-miami-dade/





The Lake View Garden Condominium, in Country Club, FL, after today's roof collapse.

The low-rise complex was built in 1972. One resident who spoke to CBS News says he’s not surprised it happened.
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Partial roof collapse leads to evacuation in Northwest Miami-Dade (Original Post) peppertree Jul 2021 OP
How many more random, unconnected building partial collapses will happen OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #1
Twenty five inches above sea level? lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #10
Sorry, 25 ft..... OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #13
Oh, phew. You have a few years then. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #14
more like the overhang trim not supported by the actual roof. too much weight and msongs Jul 2021 #2
This country is falling apart IronLionZion Jul 2021 #3
It's almost 50 years old. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #4
hawaii and california require termite inspections before a property sale ( or the msongs Jul 2021 #5
So. Florida is home to Formosan termites Warpy Jul 2021 #8
Termites attack moist wood. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #11
I'm not surprised to hear that about management companies. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #12
Looks like decades of rot finally caused the collapse. patphil Jul 2021 #6
+1 peppertree Jul 2021 #7
No mystery here. Scruffy1 Jul 2021 #9

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
1. How many more random, unconnected building partial collapses will happen
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jul 2021

....before the market collapses? I'm betting that the assets needed to repair/reinforce the existing structures are going to have an impact on FL coastal property values....and probably every condo community on the Eastern Seaboard.

I have family coastal property in Maine (500ft off the Atlantic Ocean, approx. 25" ASL). I am looking at NOAA maps and see a totally different future for the location and property in 45 years.

msongs

(67,395 posts)
2. more like the overhang trim not supported by the actual roof. too much weight and
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jul 2021

possible waterlogged adding to the weight. or just lain some other cause

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
4. It's almost 50 years old.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jul 2021

And according to a resident, termite ridden. Termites will destroy a building in a heartbeat.

Just what is the prevailing, local law in Florida for the frequency of building inspections? Or is there any?

msongs

(67,395 posts)
5. hawaii and california require termite inspections before a property sale ( or the
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:03 PM
Jul 2021

mortgage companies do) even for a condo. my apt is a concrete box but it has wood cabinets and wood framing in room divider walls

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
8. So. Florida is home to Formosan termites
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

and these nasty little buggers are especially voracious, https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/urban/termites/formosan_termite.htm

This looks more like water damage from poor roof maintenance.

Florida used to have a law specifying that a percentage of condo fees had to go into an account for future major repairs. That law was conveniently abolished a few years ago, turning those condo fees into a cash cow for management companies. This is the result.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
12. I'm not surprised to hear that about management companies.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jul 2021

Haven’t questions been raised about the condo fees of the collapsed building? This is what a hands-off, no regulations type of government gets you. It’s great, until something preventable and tragic happens.

patphil

(6,169 posts)
6. Looks like decades of rot finally caused the collapse.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jul 2021

Another example of insufficient inspection and maintenance.

peppertree

(21,624 posts)
7. +1
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jul 2021

They don't call South Florida the 'American Latin America' for nothing.

Not just for the demographics and culture - but also the weather, and la corrupción.

The more you pay, the more the inspector looks away.

Scruffy1

(3,255 posts)
9. No mystery here.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

typical construction from the 70's. Those roof overhangs were built like typical old house porches where they are cantilevered to the main structure. This is probably true for the decks. It was always a poor way of doing it. Porches and overhangs are always subject to weather and every old house had a sagging porch over time because there was no footings under the porch. Today. most such structures use extended beams from the buildings floors or roof for decks and awnings. Even then, wood can rot or get eaten by termites. To make it worse the support beams are often covered so they are hard to inspect and moisture gets trapped in them.

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