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BumRushDaShow

(128,492 posts)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:43 AM Jul 2021

Covid: No quarantine for fully jabbed US and EU travellers to England

Source: BBC

People who are fully vaccinated from the EU and US will not need to quarantine when arriving in England, the BBC has been told. Currently, people who have been fully vaccinated in the UK do not have to isolate when travelling from countries on the amber list, except from France.

But that exemption did not apply to people vaccinated outside the UK. The government's Covid Operations committee met earlier and made the decision. More details will be released later on Wednesday. It is not yet known when the change will come in - and whether the other UK nations will adopt the rule change. Earlier, Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said talks on travel were taking place between the four nations.

The travel industry had been pushing for the change in the rules so that people living abroad can more easily come to the UK for holidays or to visit loved ones. "At the moment we're in this slightly ridiculous situation where if I'm on a plane from Spain, because I'm lucky enough to have had two jabs, once we get to the UK I just wander off, no problem," said travel expert Simon Calder.

"But the person sitting next to me, who happens to have had their vaccinations in Spain, not in the UK, has to go and sit in a room for 10 days. Doesn't make sense."

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57999362



We're fucked.

WaPo article (still waiting for a direct link) -

England reopens borders to fully vaccinated visitors from U.S., Europe


England reopened its borders to fully vaccinated travelers from the United States and Europe on Wednesday, in a major move that would boost the country’s sagging tourism industry and allow friends and family to reunite after months of separation.

Grant Shapps, the transportation minister, tweeted that “we’re helping reunite people living in the US and European countries with their family and friends in the UK.”

Starting on Aug. 2 at 4 a.m. people coming to England from so-called “amber” list countries, which includes the United States and the European Union will no longer have to quarantine, just take a coronavirus test before flying and then two days after arrival. Travelers must provide proof of inoculation with a vaccine authorized by the U.S. or European agencies, he added.

“We want people to be able to come from the U.S. freely in a way that they normally do,” Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in an interview with LBC radio that aired Wednesday morning. “As soon as we have something to say about travel corridors, you’ll be hearing from us.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/07/28/coronavirus-latest-updates/
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Covid: No quarantine for fully jabbed US and EU travellers to England (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 OP
Hey, at least it's an "Honor System"! LeftInTX Jul 2021 #1
Ready for takeoff ;) BlueWavePsych Jul 2021 #7
Oh great! Soph0571 Jul 2021 #2
Am hoping we don't send BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #3
The Florida variant no doubt... n/t Soph0571 Jul 2021 #4
... BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #5
Darwin variant ... BlueWavePsych Jul 2021 #8
There are American variants IronLionZion Jul 2021 #10
UK claims their case numbers are going down IronLionZion Jul 2021 #6
The problem here is that even if Delta produces "mild" symptoms for the vaccinated BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #9
A fully-vaccinated client just returned from the UK where he got the delta PSPS Jul 2021 #11

BumRushDaShow

(128,492 posts)
3. Am hoping we don't send
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:43 AM
Jul 2021

some hitherto unknown "American variant" over there to you guys because I know it's only a matter of time when one gets started, since we are still "#1" in cases and deaths.

I think Johnson is trying to force Biden's hand and I know that ain't gonna work.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
10. There are American variants
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jul 2021

that originated in NY, CA, and other high case load regions. Florida might produce one soon. All the attention is on Delta since it's the most contagious.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
6. UK claims their case numbers are going down
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:17 AM
Jul 2021

but it could be people deciding not to get tested. I'm hoping the pandemic has hit the vaccine firewall or at least made symptoms mild enough to not be a problem.

BumRushDaShow

(128,492 posts)
9. The problem here is that even if Delta produces "mild" symptoms for the vaccinated
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jul 2021

just contracting it means it has spread and can still be shed, and spread even more.

And the big thing about Delta is that it produces a much larger quantity of itself per unit volume when it replicates (and over a shorter time) when compared to the Alpha version that was previously dominant. That's why it is dubbed as being "more contagious" - there's more of it getting generated once it gets into a host, and it reproduces pretty quickly.

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
11. A fully-vaccinated client just returned from the UK where he got the delta
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jul 2021

He tested positive when he was there, had to quarantine, then returned to the US. It was mild because he was vaccinated. "I just thought my allergies were acting up. I don't know how I got it. We never did anything." Nevertheless, he was infected.

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