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peppertree

(21,622 posts)
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:12 AM Aug 2021

Homeland Security warns of potential conspiracy theory-fueled violence in August

Source: CNN

The Department of Homeland Security warned state and local authorities Friday about an increase in calls for violence online tied to election-related conspiracy theories, according to a law enforcement source.

In an effort to prevent online threats from manifesting in violent acts, DHS issued a public safety notification to reach law enforcement throughout the United States.

"[D]HS is providing awareness of reports regarding an increasing but modest level of activity online calling for violence in response to unsubstantiated claims of fraud related to the 2020 election and the alleged 'reinstatement' of former President Trump," the public safety notification said, according to the source.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/politics/homeland-security-warning-political-conspiracy-threat-violence/index.html





A QAnon rally in February.

DHS warned state and local authorities that widespread belief among supporters of former President Donald Trump in conspiracy theories regarding the 2020 election - as well as in the possibility of his being "reinstated" on August 13th - might fuel political violence on or around that date.

DHS noted, however, that no information on specific plots or planned actions has emerged as yet.
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Homeland Security warns of potential conspiracy theory-fueled violence in August (Original Post) peppertree Aug 2021 OP
Get the national guards ready to defend the Capitol, both DC & states. These idiots are dangerous onetexan Aug 2021 #1
+1 peppertree Aug 2021 #2
+1 SheltieLover Aug 2021 #3
They *just* took the he fences and razor wire thecrow Aug 2021 #31
Unbelieveable. peppertree Aug 2021 #32
'reports regarding an increasing but modest level of activity online calling for violence elleng Aug 2021 #4
If they have a trump 2020 sign on display Marthe48 Aug 2021 #22
There's a guy in a neighboring town who hangs giant MAGA banners on their house. intheflow Aug 2021 #34
Dreadful Marthe48 Aug 2021 #35
military has better & bigger play toy's !! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #5
True, but I am concerned about wnylib Aug 2021 #6
Oh yeah. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #11
Loser tantrum (R) Champp Aug 2021 #7
I hope we don't spend the next 4 years BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #8
A few days of Zuckerberg maxrandb Aug 2021 #13
Someone else would just create a new way to promote propaganda BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #14
!!!! orangecrush Aug 2021 #33
An opportunity ad121rome Aug 2021 #9
Sadly that would take more jail cells than we have... Ford_Prefect Aug 2021 #15
Oh, don't worry your head about that... jmowreader Aug 2021 #39
So if the FBI knows about it will they say anything or twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #10
Looks like it's potentially another "missed" opportunity maxrandb Aug 2021 #12
+1 sinkingfeeling Aug 2021 #16
++ Good reminder & analogies, dangerous stuff appalachiablue Aug 2021 #23
Where we go 1 we go all??? Sure. PatrickforB Aug 2021 #17
Arrest Mike Lindell for inciting domestic terrorism Bengus81 Aug 2021 #18
Aug 13th happens to be a Friday Deminpenn Aug 2021 #19
September 12th is my prediction, the National Guard should already be in D.C. sarcasmo Aug 2021 #20
Fuck Homeland Security. We don't need a fucking warning. Shoeless Louis Aug 2021 #21
Many of them will have died by the end of August... EarthFirst Aug 2021 #24
So, are they saying that there is no way of stopping putins propaganda network like fox, facebook yaesu Aug 2021 #25
It's not just Putin, actually it's Koch/Alec and the Federalists Society funding everything msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #36
Why don't they just stay home and have their wank by themselves in the bathroom? 3Hotdogs Aug 2021 #26
+1 peppertree Aug 2021 #27
Perhaps the lack of serious prosecutions amcgrath Aug 2021 #28
Yeppers, that and a DOJ policy to consider these crimes as misdemeanors for no more than a Year msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #37
Shoot to Kill. nt. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #29
The right is capable of incredibly violent acts. In 1995, Timothy McVeigh Politicub Aug 2021 #30
"an increasing but modest level of activity online calling for violence".... msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #38

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
1. Get the national guards ready to defend the Capitol, both DC & states. These idiots are dangerous
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:18 AM
Aug 2021

criminals hellbent on turning this country into a fascist state.

peppertree

(21,622 posts)
2. +1
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:20 AM
Aug 2021

I trust they're taking this threat just that seriously.

These Chumpsters aren't joking - and some are armed to the teeth.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
31. They *just* took the he fences and razor wire
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 07:34 PM
Aug 2021

down around the Capitol. What building(s) will be targeted now.
Total idiocy…!

peppertree

(21,622 posts)
32. Unbelieveable.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:33 PM
Aug 2021

I mean, I'm sure they know what they're doing - but this had better not be the old "let's-turn-the-page and pretend nothing's going on because it would otherwise look bad."

Nothing ever got solved or prevented by burying one's head in the sand.

elleng

(130,864 posts)
4. 'reports regarding an increasing but modest level of activity online calling for violence
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:39 AM
Aug 2021

in response to unsubstantiated claims of fraud related to the 2020 election and the alleged 'reinstatement' of former President Trump," . . .

widespread belief among supporters of former President Donald Trump in conspiracy theories regarding the 2020 election - as well as in the possibility of his being "reinstated" on August 13th - might fuel political violence on or around that date.'

Marthe48

(16,934 posts)
22. If they have a trump 2020 sign on display
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

in your yard or on your vehicle, they should be warned they are considered traitors. It is August 2021. Take the signs down, because if you still have them up, you backed an attempted coup of your country.

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
34. There's a guy in a neighboring town who hangs giant MAGA banners on their house.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:18 PM
Aug 2021

It changes now and again. Of course it had Trump/Pence in 2015, but over the years it'd had such charming slogans as "Fuck your feelings, snowflakes" and lots of "Christian" gun porn. Drove by the house today and they put a new banner up: Trump/DeSantis 2024.

Marthe48

(16,934 posts)
35. Dreadful
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:35 AM
Aug 2021

My daughter went through a red area recently and told me there were still so many traitor signs up.

wnylib

(21,427 posts)
6. True, but I am concerned about
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 04:43 AM
Aug 2021

the infiltration of National Guard, military, and police forces by RW extremists who support these fascist coup perpetrators.

BumRushDaShow

(128,827 posts)
8. I hope we don't spend the next 4 years
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 06:26 AM
Aug 2021

with monthly idiotic "threats of violence" from these asses.

A lot of this is being fueled by elected local, state, and federal officials, who need to be shut down.

BumRushDaShow

(128,827 posts)
14. Someone else would just create a new way to promote propaganda
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:41 AM
Aug 2021

And as long as idiocy is being uttered, it will be covered with baited breath by the "if bleeds it leads" and "if it's fake, we take" news coverage.

ad121rome

(151 posts)
9. An opportunity
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 06:32 AM
Aug 2021

Homeland Security can use the event to finish rounding up the rest of the Trump Cult. Root them out, put them on trial and lock them up.

Ford_Prefect

(7,883 posts)
15. Sadly that would take more jail cells than we have...
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:41 AM
Aug 2021

Not to mention arresting 20-odd GOP Governors, state legislators in the thousands, the entire RAGA ensemble, numerous state and local police officers, the Pillow MAGAT, Hannity and the whole faux news outfit, OANN, Epoch Times (and publishers), along with ever so many of turd blossom's true believer cult. Simply prosecuting them will take a decade.

I wonder if Cuba would be open to extending the lease on Gitmo? It could bring in needed foreign cash and open a diplomatic door.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
39. Oh, don't worry your head about that...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:49 PM
Aug 2021

We have LOTS of abandoned big box stores, shuttered factories, closed prisons and other large buildings that could easily be pressed into service as detention facilities. All we gotta do is borrow some of Army’s mobile kitchen trailers, rent some porta potties, and erect fencing - preferably electrified - and we’re in business.

maxrandb

(15,319 posts)
12. Looks like it's potentially another "missed" opportunity
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:25 AM
Aug 2021
to break Facebook into a billion tiny pieces

Why we don't is something I will never understand.

If we could have found Tokyo Rose's radio studio in WW II, it would have been blown to bits.

There are literally millions of Tokyo Roses, Benedict Arnold's and Typhoid Mary's on Facebook spewing fascist craps 24/7.

PatrickforB

(14,570 posts)
17. Where we go 1 we go all??? Sure.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:00 AM
Aug 2021


The anti-vaxers getting Delta COVID are sure going down that ol' suckhole. Like lemmings.

Funny how these folks seem to believe in the 'survival of the fittest,' and consider their freedom more important than our safety. They kind of missed out, though. Our species survived and thrived because we all took care of each other. Capitalist consumer culture and the primacy of the shareholder has ended that for these people. Thanks to the oligarchs.

Shoeless Louis

(73 posts)
21. Fuck Homeland Security. We don't need a fucking warning.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 12:25 PM
Aug 2021

We knew about the last insurrection and we know about this one too. We don’t need a government agency to warn us. We need a government agency to fucking do something about it. I would just like for once to hear them say that they are preparing for this and will make sure it is being dealt with appropriately. I haven’t heard “boo” about “here’s what we are doing”

I know, they don’t want to show their cards. Well, last time they had no cards to show, they basically just watched it happen. Has anyone seen any indication that it will be different next time, or the next time, or the next time…

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
24. Many of them will have died by the end of August...
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 12:43 PM
Aug 2021

With the any luck; it will fall circumstance upon more vocal organizing member(s) and the whole thing fizzles out because they cannot organize sh*t as the minority.

As I mentioned; COVID is the ace up the FBI’s sleeve on this one...

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
25. So, are they saying that there is no way of stopping putins propaganda network like fox, facebook
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 01:44 PM
Aug 2021

& hundreds of other media outlets from committing cyber war? Is this the best we can do, give warnings?

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
36. It's not just Putin, actually it's Koch/Alec and the Federalists Society funding everything
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:57 AM
Aug 2021

Just saying, Putin is a useful detractor, giving cover by taking eyes off the actual source fueling the insurrectionists engine.

It's time we collectively deal with the enemy within.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
28. Perhaps the lack of serious prosecutions
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 03:33 PM
Aug 2021

And less than ten court cases prosecuted - and a seditionary ex president still holding rallies, has given right wing morons the impression that there are little or no consequences for killing people while trying to over throw the government ?

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
37. Yeppers, that and a DOJ policy to consider these crimes as misdemeanors for no more than a Year
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:01 PM
Aug 2021

of incarceration guidelines. written and revised decades ago. posted in another thread I read yesterday.

Which explains a lot.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. The right is capable of incredibly violent acts. In 1995, Timothy McVeigh
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 03:57 PM
Aug 2021

perpetuated the largest terrorist attack on American soil, eclipsed only by 9/11.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
38. "an increasing but modest level of activity online calling for violence"....
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:06 PM
Aug 2021

a "modest level" ?

relative to a nuclear explosion?

Or just a few thousand oath keepers dressed in paramilitary gear and armed with weapons of war?

Just asking for a little clarity, and in this context, how are we defining "modest"?



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