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Omaha Steve

(99,494 posts)
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:28 AM Aug 2021

Israel PM: Lebanon responsible for attacks, Hezbollah or not

Source: AP

By LAURIE KELLMAN

TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel’s prime minister said Sunday he holds the Lebanese government responsible for rocket fire launched from its territory, whether the Hezbollah militant group launched the weapons or not.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett’s comments came days after one of the heaviest flareups in violence between Israel and Hezbollah in several years and indicated Israel could expand its response if the rocket fire continues.

“The country of Lebanon and the army of Lebanon have to take responsibility (for) what happens in its backyard,” Bennett told his Cabinet.

Over several days last week, militants in Lebanon launched a barrage of rockets into Israel, drawing rare Israeli airstrikes in Lebanon. On Friday, Hezbollah fired additional rockets toward Israel, and Israel responded with heavy artillery shelling.



Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett speaks at the weekly cabinet meeting at the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem, Sunday, Aug. 8, 2021. (Ronen Zvulun/Pool via AP)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-business-israel-lebanon-hezbollah-058d7dbe42dadb01063b1f8c79947d25

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Israel PM: Lebanon responsible for attacks, Hezbollah or not (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2021 OP
So if Israel engages with a sovereign nation no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #1
So when Afghanistan was giving sanctuary to bin Laden, or Pakistan, are you suggesting we JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2
I think the question might be stopdiggin Aug 2021 #3
If Lebanon claims that land then they are responsible for stopping the attacks ripcord Aug 2021 #7
think I have to agree stopdiggin Aug 2021 #8
Wow seta1950 Aug 2021 #4
Bennett Is Blowing Smoke WHITT Aug 2021 #5
You arre oveerestimating Hezbillah's targeting skills. Beastly Boy Aug 2021 #6
No, I'm Not WHITT Aug 2021 #9
How do you shoot across the bow and hit your own butt? Beastly Boy Aug 2021 #10
Being Juvenile WHITT Aug 2021 #13
Your self-deprecating humor is refresing. Beastly Boy Aug 2021 #16
Yeah, you are. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2021 #11
Nope WHITT Aug 2021 #12
Wrong again. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2021 #14
HEH WHITT Aug 2021 #15
.... MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2021 #17
Apparently WHITT Aug 2021 #19
Apparently your assuming something not supported by fact. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2021 #20
Revving up the military, are we? Phil the Kilibuster Aug 2021 #18
So Will Israel Invade Lebanon Again? McKim Aug 2021 #21
I'm glad we are smart enough to control the militias here ripcord Aug 2021 #22

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
1. So if Israel engages with a sovereign nation
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:51 AM
Aug 2021

vs a terrorist group, can it grab that land, occupy it, and then claim it as part of Israel?

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
2. So when Afghanistan was giving sanctuary to bin Laden, or Pakistan, are you suggesting we
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:55 AM
Aug 2021

should have not done anything?

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
3. I think the question might be
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:52 AM
Aug 2021

can said 'sovereign nation' claim sovereignty over territory/land that they seemingly have no control over? There's probably not a tidy answer here - but the fact that Lebanon is exhibiting features of a failed state does not prohibit a second entity from the right to defend itself. And if (in some completely theoretical scenario) Israel should 'occupy' some territory in this effort - to whom would they (or should they) theoretically 'return' that land to?
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ripcord

(5,268 posts)
7. If Lebanon claims that land then they are responsible for stopping the attacks
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 01:47 PM
Aug 2021

If they fail to stop the attacks Israel would be right to believe the Lebanese government is condoning them.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
5. Bennett Is Blowing Smoke
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 12:09 PM
Aug 2021

Hezbollah fired rockets into open, unoccupied areas of Israel, albeit adjacent to IDF installations, as a shot-across-the-bow warning.

The last time the IDF took on Hezbollah, they got their ass kicked, and they have much more sophisticated armaments now.

This is why the IDF then merely fired artillery shells into open, unoccupied areas of Lebanon.

Beastly Boy

(9,231 posts)
6. You arre oveerestimating Hezbillah's targeting skills.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 01:22 PM
Aug 2021

And underestimating Israel's Iron Dome,

The Israeli Defense Force said that of the 19 rockets fired on Friday, 10 were intercepted by the Iron Dome, six landed in "open areas," while three landed in Lebanon territory.


https://news.yahoo.com/hezbollah-takes-responsibility-rocket-fire-124200291.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
9. No, I'm Not
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:10 PM
Aug 2021

As I posted:

Hezbollah fired rockets into open, unoccupied areas of Israel

That's where they went.


Quite separately, as to their missile interception performance, you have to take the IDF's claims with a grain of salt, as Hamas demonstrated quite spectacularly.

Beastly Boy

(9,231 posts)
10. How do you shoot across the bow and hit your own butt?
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:25 PM
Aug 2021

And are you quoting yourself as a source for your claims? That's cute!

Beastly Boy

(9,231 posts)
16. Your self-deprecating humor is refresing.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 04:19 PM
Aug 2021

But I was hoping for something more substantive. if you promise to stay on subject and step out of your opinionated bubble, I am willing to give you another chance. Deal?

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
11. Yeah, you are.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:57 PM
Aug 2021

Hezbollah fires unguided rockets into Israel with the intent of striking populated areas, unguided rockets don't have a very good accuracy rate, so some will hit in open areas, some will hit in populated areas and others will be taken out by Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system, but make no mistake, Hezbollah was aiming for populated areas of Israel and Israel has every right to defend itself against an aggressor.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
12. Nope
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 03:47 PM
Aug 2021
Hezbollah fires unguided rockets into Israel...

Hezbollah's rockets and missiles are not unguided, and they are upgrading to even more precision-guided missile batteries:

Israel estimates Hezbollah possesses over 130,000 rockets and missiles capable of striking anywhere in the country. In recent years, Israel also has expressed concerns that the group is trying to import or develop an arsenal of precision-guided missiles.

Associated Press
https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-lebanon-78c742903569aeb81198ba7bd79052cb


..taken out by Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system

HEH.

Israel's "Iron Dome" ain't so iron anymo'.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
14. Wrong again.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 03:56 PM
Aug 2021
Israel estimates Hezbollah possesses over 130,000 rockets and missiles capable of striking anywhere in the country. In recent years, Israel also has expressed concerns that the group is trying to import or develop an arsenal of precision-guided missiles.


All this says is the Hezbollah has rockets that can strike anywhere in Israel, an unguided rocket or missile can strike anywhere in the country if it has the range, doesn't mean it's guided, and it also says that Hezbollah is trying to acquire guided munitions, doesn't mean they have them yet.

HEH.

Israel's "Iron Dome" ain't so iron anymo'


I never said it was perfect, no anti missile system is 100% effective, but the Iron Dome system has a pretty good track record.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
15. HEH
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021
Wrong again

You just keep tellin' yourself that.


...the Iron Dome system has a pretty good track record.

Absolute gibberish.


McKim

(2,412 posts)
21. So Will Israel Invade Lebanon Again?
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 04:53 PM
Aug 2021

So will Israel invade Lebanon again? This sounds like a rationale for that. I am holding my breath. Scary times.

ripcord

(5,268 posts)
22. I'm glad we are smart enough to control the militias here
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 07:04 PM
Aug 2021

Lebanon allows a militia almost the size of their army to operate inside its borders, several of the nations lawmakers are members of Hezbollah. Lebanon is responsible for the actions of the militia within its border and if they won't stop them from launching rockets is just as responsible as Hezbollah for reactions of Israel. Hezbollah will get the response they want, the sad thing is after starting the attacks many here will then support their playing the victim.

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