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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:54 AM Aug 2021

Turner's 'evil money' comment riles Jewish leaders

Source: Cleveland Jewish News

Nina Turner, who ignited a national conversation on social media with her use of the term "evil money" in her Aug. 3 concession speech, is taking heat from some local Jewish leaders.

Following her loss to Shontel Brown in the District 11 congressional primary Aug. 3, Turner said, "I am going to work hard to ensure that something like this doesn't happen to another progressive candidate again. We didn't lose this race, evil money manipulated and maligned this election."

The Turner campaign was asked to clarify her use of the term.

"Nina Turner was opposed by corporate money, Republican money and Trump-allies' money," her campaign wrote in an Aug. 11 email to the Cleveland Jewish News. "That is evil money and it's not limited to any race, creed or background. It hurts democracy."



Read more: https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/turners-evil-money-comment-riles-jewish-leaders/article_d1efcf24-fadf-11eb-a629-9b2e75fc2156.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social



"Although Turner's staff sought to clarify her election night remarks, indicating she was speaking about 'corporate money, Republican money and Trump allies' money,' words matter," Shapiro wrote in an Aug. 10 email to the CJN. "Intentionally or unintentionally, the language she employed rings of historic antisemitic tropes. There is no place for bigotry, hate or antisemitism in our public discourse. It is the responsibility of political figures to condemn and address antisemitism, and that means taking extra care with phrasing that can be offensive or derogatory. AJC Cleveland has reached out to Turner to discuss issues of concern."


It should be noted that a prominent supporter of Nina Turner, Cornel West, was more specific in a Tim Black podcast a few days after the primary, saying she was opposed by "republican Jewish money".
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Turner's 'evil money' comment riles Jewish leaders (Original Post) George II Aug 2021 OP
Honestly, Cornel West and Nina Turner are two peas in a pod. Why CNN continues to bring West hlthe2b Aug 2021 #1
I think that's why... stillcool Aug 2021 #2
I'm not a fan of Nina Turner, but honestly... IL Dem Aug 2021 #3
While West was very specific, Turner's so-called concession speech, was implied, JohnSJ Aug 2021 #4
That statement was the culmination of a very contentious (a nice way of putting it) campaign.... George II Aug 2021 #6
Sounds like something Farrakhan would say. sarcasmo Aug 2021 #14
One of his allies, Linda Sarsour, was a big supporter of Turner. George II Aug 2021 #19
Every Democrat, not just Jewish leaders, should be outraged with Turner's statement. Beastly Boy Aug 2021 #5
I am not defending Turner Griefbird Aug 2021 #12
Agreed on dark money. But bringing it up immediately after you lose an election, and blaming Beastly Boy Aug 2021 #13
When all the numbers are in Turner will have had a lot more spent on her behalf.... George II Aug 2021 #18
She is an anti semite plain and simple ripcord Aug 2021 #7
When in trouble, blame the Jews. question everything Aug 2021 #8
And locusts, and snakes, and pestilence. George II Aug 2021 #10
Don't forget California forest fires. Those space lasers are something else. Hekate Aug 2021 #15
People are the root of all evil. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #9
I don't see where she said anything derogatory against Jewish people peoli Aug 2021 #11
Racist dog whistle Jose Garcia Aug 2021 #16
K&R betsuni Aug 2021 #17

hlthe2b

(102,215 posts)
1. Honestly, Cornel West and Nina Turner are two peas in a pod. Why CNN continues to bring West
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 10:16 AM
Aug 2021

on as a so-called African American academician and "expert" baffles me. He lost the moral "high ground" a long time ago.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
2. I think that's why...
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 10:25 AM
Aug 2021

god forbid they should schedule people who are Democrats, without a modifier.

IL Dem

(813 posts)
3. I'm not a fan of Nina Turner, but honestly...
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 11:19 AM
Aug 2021

they should be on Cornell West about this, not her. "Evil money" is a pretty generic term and does not an implication of anti-semitism. To me it doesn't even smell of a dog-whistle. Corporate money IS a huge problem and doesn't have a religious or ethnic meaning. Jeesh!

JohnSJ

(92,122 posts)
4. While West was very specific, Turner's so-called concession speech, was implied,
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 11:52 AM
Aug 2021

especially by some of her supporters, of who Cornell West was one.

The fact that contributions to Turner were significantly more than to Brown, and her graceless pseudo concession speech, blaming "evil money" for her loss, is a dog whistle that is used by some from the left with a clear implication.

You will not hear Turner pushing back on the comments from Cornell West, and that speaks volumes

Turner's support of Linda Sarsour, also does not help her case.

Linda Sarsour support of Louis Farrakhan, and Sarsour's anti-Jewish comments did not endear Turner with the Jewish population in the 11th district

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. That statement was the culmination of a very contentious (a nice way of putting it) campaign....
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:06 PM
Aug 2021

...with all sorts of innuendos and accusations about "outside money" with hints of anti-Semitism.

That was a bad road for Turner to go down - the Cleveland area has the highest concentration of Jewish people in the entire state of Ohio.

Beastly Boy

(9,299 posts)
5. Every Democrat, not just Jewish leaders, should be outraged with Turner's statement.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:03 PM
Aug 2021

Whatever else it may or may not be, it's an inexcusable insult to Ms. Brown's intelligence, experience and integrity. It is also a pathetic attempt to excuse Turner's defeat. Smacks of Trump's bogus claims that he didn't lose the election.

Griefbird

(96 posts)
12. I am not defending Turner
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 04:24 PM
Aug 2021

or any other candidate who legitimately lost an election after spending more than her opponent. I do believe, however, that the vast organization of think tanks, propaganda networks, astroturf movements and dark money, created and financed by oligarchs to write legislation and steal elections, has polluted our politics since before Reagan. The corrupting influence of money in politics must be called out at every opportunity. If we criticize her statement as a dog whistle, we need to change our framing to emphasize the valid concern about this she brings up.

Beastly Boy

(9,299 posts)
13. Agreed on dark money. But bringing it up immediately after you lose an election, and blaming
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 06:21 PM
Aug 2021

your defeat on the winner in insulting and provocative terms like "evil money" will do nothing to address the issue. The manner in which Turner raised it, and in the context of her speech I doubt she raised it for any other reason than to excuse her defeat, contributes nothing to addressing the problem of dark money seriously.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. When all the numbers are in Turner will have had a lot more spent on her behalf....
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 08:08 PM
Aug 2021

....by her own campaign and outside groups than Brown. She's already $600,000 ahead with a few groups not accounted for yet.

At latest count (as of July 14)

Turner:

Congressional Progressive Caucus $104,000
Democratic Action PAC $661,000
Working Families Party $153,000
Turner Campaign $3,704,491

Total: $4,622,491

Brown:

Third Way $255,000
Democratic Majority for Israel $2,000,000 (estimated
Brown Campaign $1,748,992

Total: $4,003,992

That's about $600,000 more for Turner so far and doesn't yet include Justice Democrats, Sunshine Movement (both of whom are Super PACs), or Brand New Congress.

https://ballotpedia.org/Nina_Turner_(Ohio)#2021_battleground_election

question everything

(47,465 posts)
8. When in trouble, blame the Jews.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:31 PM
Aug 2021

Drought, hurricanes, tornadoes, recession, just a bad day - blame the Jews.

She joins two (that I know) "Squad" members: Omar and Tlaib.

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