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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:23 PM Aug 2021

Taliban holds press conference from Afghanistan, claims women allowed to study 'within our framework

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON – U.S. military evacuation flights resumed from Afghanistan Tuesday as the Taliban sought to allay fears in their first press conference since taking power by declaring "amnesty" for government officials and vowing to uphold women's rights under Islamic law.

Many feared the Taliban's return to power, governed by strict Islamic law, but in their first news conference since seizing control of Afghanistan, officials sought to calm an unsettled country by reiterating calls for "amnesty" for those who worked for the fallen government.

Zabihullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the Taliban, said they were working to form a government and vowed that "nobody will be harmed."

Their aim, he said, is to make sure "Afghanistan is no longer a battlefield of conflict."





Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-evacuations-flights-restart-from-kabul-as-taliban-declares-amnesty-for-government-officials/ar-AANq5Vc?li=BBnb7Kz



We'll see.
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Taliban holds press conference from Afghanistan, claims women allowed to study 'within our framework (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
"within our framework" musette_sf Aug 2021 #1
Women will be "educated" to be good little slaves. n/t Eyeball_Kid Aug 2021 #2
That's not what they said. jimfields33 Aug 2021 #3
I don't trust them for a second calguy Aug 2021 #6
it's probably optimistic to think the Taliban are just going to let 300k people fly out the country. Calista241 Aug 2021 #8
Yep Rebl2 Aug 2021 #4
A stint in GITMO probably carries serious street cred Devil Child Aug 2021 #5
under Islamic law?! catsudon Aug 2021 #7
We have people in Congress Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #9
There's plenty of people in America who want secular law overturned & their interpretation ... Hekate Aug 2021 #10
Yeah, I hear this. Those groups wouldn't like me either. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #11
Behind the scene negotiations translation, "Give us cash and we won't slaughter everyone right away" Shanti Shanti Shanti Aug 2021 #12
So the Taliban has adopted their own "Big Lie." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #13
Ditto! BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #14
I will take this as a positive.. honest.abe Aug 2021 #15
Frankly, if this pans out, they aren't that far behind many of the top US universities Steelrolled Aug 2021 #16
They're just playing nice until the foreigners and media leave... VarryOn Aug 2021 #17
oh sure... I believe the Taliban rollin74 Aug 2021 #18
Taliban says it will be more tolerant toward women. Some fear otherwise. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 #19

jimfields33

(15,669 posts)
3. That's not what they said.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:41 PM
Aug 2021

Another awesome part is the 300,000 who worked with the United States and NATO are receiving amnesty. Maybe this will workout after all. We have 2,000 that worked with us that just landed in Virginia. We need to find them housing, money, doctors, etc. Maybe that will be who we end up with.

calguy

(5,290 posts)
6. I don't trust them for a second
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:52 PM
Aug 2021

But I would hope they learned something from the last time they were in power. Fundamentalists rarely change their views on anything. We shall see. They've definitely learned a few things about PR.

Calista241

(5,585 posts)
8. it's probably optimistic to think the Taliban are just going to let 300k people fly out the country.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:57 PM
Aug 2021

Once the US military leaves the airport, who's going to fly a plane in to Kabul? The place is essentially a lawless territory right now. Nobody knows who exactly is in charge, everyone is heavily armed, and the plane you have is worth $100m. There's not an insurance company in the world that would allow you to do that.

And for the people that want to leave, are you just going to put on your exit visa request that you want to go to America or the UK because you helped the US Marines in translation duties?

The time to get those people out of Afghanistan was in the 7 month lead up after Biden was sworn in. Now they're stuck there with no way to get out, and they can only hope that the US State Department was actually able to destroy all their identifying paperwork. Paperwork that identifies them as 'collaborators' but without which they might not be able to prove their service and get into the US.

Mr.Bill

(24,228 posts)
9. We have people in Congress
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:59 PM
Aug 2021

who would like to see us governed by the bible and whatever their version of christian law is. As a matter fact, they think our country was founded on it.

Hekate

(90,529 posts)
10. There's plenty of people in America who want secular law overturned & their interpretation ...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:27 PM
Aug 2021

…of the Bible installed. Some are in Congress.

Because secular law gives them freedom of religion, there are communities all over. Some are quite rigorous in their requirements for female dress and education. Some are Christian, some are Jewish, and have no interest in assimilation. The Ultra-Orthodox Jews mostly want to be left alone, but the Evangelical Christians want you to convert, and the whack-jobs want to install a version of Gilead.

This is not a vote of approval, by the way. Women like me get stoned to death. It’s just a comment that in all three Abrahamic religions there are extremists at the fringes, and they have a lot in common.



13. So the Taliban has adopted their own "Big Lie."
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:24 PM
Aug 2021

Anytime they say that women will be treated fairly is a lie. Their religion subjugates women to the status of chattel. Expect rapes, forced marriages to 15-year-olds, and executions of women in highly responsible positions.

It's the Republicans' wet dream.

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
15. I will take this as a positive..
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:39 PM
Aug 2021

even though I dont trust anything they say. However its a step in the right direction. We will see if they follow through and how long it lasts.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
16. Frankly, if this pans out, they aren't that far behind many of the top US universities
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:25 PM
Aug 2021

in admitting women.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
17. They're just playing nice until the foreigners and media leave...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:42 PM
Aug 2021

Then, they can pick back up where they left off.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
19. Taliban says it will be more tolerant toward women. Some fear otherwise.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:55 PM
Aug 2021

In some parts of Afghanistan, including Kabul, a generation of girls grew up in a world completely different from the one their parents knew.

The Taliban’s return to the city and consolidation of power this week appeared to bring those nearly two decades of change, including hard-won rights for women, crashing down.

Friba, who fled from Kunduz, a northern provincial capital, to Kabul this month in the face of the Taliban’s rapid advance, only to find herself living under the Taliban anyway, described the whiplash that many women who built lives in a new Afghanistan now face. “You are outside working with the community, with girls, with women — but suddenly, you go in a prison and you can’t do anything for anyone,” she told The Washington Post. “Now every Afghan woman [is] in prison in their room. They cannot go outside. They cannot be like before.”

The Taliban, wary of once again governing as an international pariah, has tried to strike a more conciliatory tone this time around. “We assure the international community that there will be no discrimination against women, but, of course, within the frameworks we have,” spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said at a news conference in Kabul on Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taliban-says-it-will-be-more-tolerant-toward-women-some-fear-otherwise/ar-AANqDcY

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