Progressive group launches ReplaceJoeManchin.com

[brooklynite]

Source: The Journal

CHARLESTON — Whether U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin decides to run for a third six-year term in 2024 or retires sometime in the near future, a group of progressive activists are creating a framework in the hopes of replacing Manchin down the road.

WV Can’t Wait — a political group that united several Democrats, Republicans, Mountain Party members, libertarians and Independents to run for office in 2020 under a progressive platform – launched ReplaceJoeManchin.com on Tuesday morning.

The website, paid for by the WV Can’t Wait Action Committee, is a fundraising effort to support a candidate to challenge Manchin in 2024 or have a candidate ready should Manchin retire.

The fundraising campaign will also support slates of candidates that support WV Can’t Wait’s platform of pro-labor and anti-corporate donations; candidate recruiting and training for city, county, legislative, constitutional and federal elections; defending seats picked up in 2020 and 2021 by WV Can’t Wait candidates; and training for activists and community organizers.

Read more: https://www.journal-news.net/journal-news/progressive-group-launches-replacejoemanchin-com/article_ca94786c-338d-5d4d-8655-036a6d7aa33d.html

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At least people will know what the Republican who beats their candidate stands for…

[Scrivener7]

1. Not smart. They should work on replacing republiQans in purple states.

Flip a few of them and Joe Manchin won't matter, and he'll be a Democrat in a state that otherwise wouldn't have one. Which means we get the committee leadership.

[LisaM]

8. Very sound reasoning.

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There are places like Iowa and Montana that have elexred Democrats and can again. They might be able to primary him. Then the seat will surely go GOP.

[Demsrule86]

27. Maybe? There is no indication that either state will elect a Democratic Senator anytime soon.

Hell Texas is more likely to do so and that is not very likely at the moment...a bird in hand...

[Demsrule86]

28. I do agree we need more Democrats...maybe with Death Santis in florida we might have

a shot, Pennsylvania but not with Connor Lamb. I don't think he can win statewide...hope I am wrong. Also maybe Wisconsin. It would be so awesome if at some point we could turn Texas.

[Lonestarblue]

30. I believe the secret to turning Texas blue is the Hispanic population.

Fewer of them are registered to vote and fewer of those registered turn out to vote. But Democrats need to do some serious work here, and it needed to start yesterday. When VP Harris went to the border, she met with federal officials. How about meeting with the people who live on the border to learn their issues related to having hundreds of thousands of migrants in their communities? How about learning why Hildago County flipped from blue to red and voted for Trump? To my knowledge, Jaime Harrison has not been here, nor has any other national Democratic leader who did anything but see the migrant facilities and talk to border officials.

We seem to be assuming that Texas Hispanics, and those in other border states, are proponents of immigration from Central America because they are all immigrants. They aren’t. Many Hispanic families were in Texas, New Mexico, and California before they even became states. We forget that their ancestors didn’t move—the border moved. People just ignore that they have been here longer than most non-Hispanics because they lived here when Spain controlled Mexico and much of the territory up to northern California.

I think too many Democrats look at all Hispanics as immigrants when many of them aren’t, although of course there are many Mexicans who came here illegally—but their children born here certainly are not immigrants. And why should we assume that Texas Hispanics, for example, have an affinity for Central American migrants. Not the same tribe—just as white liberals and conservatives are not the same tribe.

To my thinking, Republicans will make immigration and the Central American migrants the key issue for 2022 and 2024. We need a better approach to the border and the number of people coming here. For example, we should open immigration offices in major cities in Central America and announce that those who apply for asylum in their own countries will be given preference. Those who appear at the border will go to the back of the line. While I support immigration and I believe that some people are escaping gangs, I suspect that many of the migrants are seeking economic opportunities (and good for them) rather than physical safety.

[Demsrule86]

33. I think many in that group are naturally conservative and the only reason they have not

turned to the GOP is the abysmal treatment they have received. But I honestly am no sure this group is going to be key...I think it is the suburbs that may turn Texas blue. And of course there are all sorts of people there.

[reACTIONary]

35. Good analysis. I largely agree. nt

[rpannier]

11. At this point it probably does not matter

All signs point to Gov Justice running for that seat in 2024
He has outflanked Manchin on the Covid relief at every possible turn
He's more popular than Manchin
I think this is that moment everyone needs to be ready and have found someone elsewhere: PA. WI
It's possible he could pull a Susan Collins and hold the seat. But Justice is a far more formidable force in West Virginia politics than Sara Gideon is in Maine

I say this as someone who did donate quite a bit to Manchin's 2018 campaign (Quite a bit in relation to how much I have to give)

[Scrivener7]

19. And then we lose the committees, all other things being equal.

[Demsrule86]

26. Too soon to make that judgement and considering the hole we constantly find ourselves in

the Senate due to the two Senator thing, we need to fight to keep Manchin.

[Bleacher Creature]

2. JFC, the choice is Manchin or a Republican in WV. That's it.

If people don't like the outsized influence Manchin has, the answer is to pick up seats in PA, WI, NC, and anywhere else there is an open or competitive seat.

This is counterproductive.

[texasfiddler]

3. All they will do is replace him with a GQP senator. NOT SMART.

[JohnSJ]

4. Why not go into states where Democrats have a chance to win? Manchin is about the only

Democrat who could win WV

People lose elections when they don’t think with their brains, but with their emotion

[TomCADem]

5. A political group that united several Democrats, Republicans, Mountain Party members, libertarians?

Sounds like a right wing sock puppet group to me.

[reACTIONary]

36. Sounds about right. nt

[yaesu]

6. calling a group with repukes and libertarians progressive is quite the stretch. nt

[Demsrule86]

25. Ratfucking operation. Good, glad to see our side mostly has more sense.

[bottomofthehill]

7. Great idea

Replace him with a Republican and then go find another seat to win to offset the lost seat.

[Polybius]

9. WV will never have a progressive Senator

These people need to understand that, and get it through their thick little heads. It's either Manchin, a clone of him, or a Republican. Take your pick.

[TheFarseer]

34. But why

Can’t they have Senator that will fight the outsourcing of Mylan Labs because their daughter wasn’t given a $30 million dollar golden parachute by the company? I’m pretty sure that has nothing to do with conservative or West Virginia values. I get that the Senator from WV is not going to spearhead Trans rights or the Green New Deal but can’t they care about jobs and health care?

[Polybius]

37. I agree

They can get a moderate/conservative Democrat that's a populist; one that won't make deals with Republicans. He or she can only vote against us when it comes to social issues guns-control.

[dsc]

10. Even if you believe that his replacement would be better than him

which I find dubious at best, it is kind of bizarre to call a campaign that won't be effective for 4 years WV can't wait. Both he and Sinema will be around until 2024. The people who can help now are candidates in WI, PA, and IA

[Demsrule86]

24. Any Manchin replacement will be GOP.

[DenaliDemocrat]

12. Jesus Christ are these people on drugs?

Sometimes my party…

[Scrivener7]

20. We do tend to shoot our own feet.

[Tarheel_Dem]

13. Targeting Manchin probably means he'll switch parties, and that's not good for keeping the gavel...

in Chuck Schumer's hands. You have to wonder if this "group of progressives" even care.

[Demsrule86]

23. He was targeted last time and he didn't switch...but no doubt this is a big risk...I look at

who is involved in this sort of thing and cross them off my presidential primary list for all time.

[rwheeler31]

14. This has to be a Republican operation.

[JoeOtterbein]

15. It called "political pressure" if you are worried then add pressure to Manchin and then...

...use that power to eliminate the filibuster.

Then we pick up Senate seats in PA and other states in 2022. Then, worry about 2024.

[Demsrule86]

22. It won't work as Manchin has more to fear from the right than the left...it is a deep red state.

Manchin will likely be the last Democratic Senator in WVA for a generation or more. These folks should work on unseating GOP types and winning hearts and minds. Our majority is at risk. Regardless of their reasons, I must say some appear politically tone-deaf.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

16. This move is a waste of time and effort

Link to tweet

[George II]

17. Not a smart idea. Manchin is about the only Democrat in West Virginia that can win.....

Anyone more "progressive" will lose to the republican.

I don't understand how all these people can call themselves "progressive" when they've never shown any progress whatsoever.

[Fullduplexxx]

18. Sounds like rightwing fuckery

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[Demsrule86]

21. They are so foolish...Manchin is the only one who can hold WVA. Maybe this will help him...one

hopes. Our majority is at stake and these folks want to spend money on a primary.

[Demsrule86]

29. Please amend your post to show that this is not a progressive group...but most likely a

right-wing group.

[onenote]

31. DU rules require that LBN posts use the headline on the posted story

[Demsrule86]

32. I understand and have run into that myself...my suggestion was to add a note to that effect.

[mahina]

38. Yourenothelping.com

Not OP, the boneheads