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riversedge

(70,187 posts)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:27 PM Aug 2021

US military gives Biden a deadline to decide on extending Afghanistan evacuations

Source: CNN




By Nicole Gaouette, Barbara Starr, Jennifer Hansler and Kylie Atwood, CNN

Updated 7:44 PM ET, Mon August 23, 2021


(CNN)The US military is advising President Joe Biden that he must decide by Tuesday whether to extend the evacuation in Afghanistan beyond August 31, according to a defense official directly familiar with the discussions, though Biden has yet to make a decision.
Military advisers have told the White House that the decision must be made by Tuesday in order to have enough time to withdraw the 5,800 troops currently on the ground, as well as their equipment and weapons. If the President agrees, the military anticipates "a few more days" of trying to evacuate as many people as possible before the drawdown of US forces begins, possibly at the end of this week.
Still deciding

As of Monday, Biden was still deciding whether to extend the deadline for removing all US troops, CNN has learned. Several of the President's advisers have advised against an extension, citing the security situation on the ground. Officials have spent recent days monitoring potential terrorist threats, citing "persistent" and credible information that the chaotic situation outside the airfield has created a target for ISIS-K and other organizations.

The Pentagon's decision-making ultimatum for Biden follows the Taliban's declaration that the US must remove all forces by August 31 -- a deadline that US military officials say they are still currently planning to meet, with an accelerated pace of evacuation flights now taking thousands out of Afghanistan every day and the US military even entering Kabul, as necessary, to retrieve people. While senior US national security expressed optimism that there will be no need to extend beyond August 31, Biden has said that if need be, the mission to extract US citizens and some Afghans could continue into September. ............................


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US military gives Biden a deadline to decide on extending Afghanistan evacuations (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2021 OP
President Biden will do the right thing. He will not leave anyone behind PortTack Aug 2021 #1
The US will be unlikely to verify everyone David__77 Aug 2021 #4
Then we will be there until the sun goes out quakerboy Aug 2021 #7
cnn and the military revealing american strategy to the taliban. bad idea nt msongs Aug 2021 #2
I object to their choice of words, wnylib Aug 2021 #12
U S military had 20 years to get it right and they're giving Biden till Tuesday??? mpcamb Aug 2021 #17
Say what? That post is a non sequitur. wnylib Aug 2021 #19
Spot on - K&R onetexan Aug 2021 #21
I wonder how many US citizens are left. David__77 Aug 2021 #3
US attempted negotiations with the wnylib Aug 2021 #13
Please mother fucker "US military gives Biden a deadline" Botany Aug 2021 #5
I was just thinking the same thing. Mr. Evil Aug 2021 #9
Bad headline. They're not giving him an order. NYC Liberal Aug 2021 #11
I take it more as they (the folks doing the job) are informing him Sapient Donkey Aug 2021 #20
Now, the military is getting ticked. Hoyt Aug 2021 #6
stay... myohmy2 Aug 2021 #8
Or if the Taliban want to be dicks, Mr. Evil Aug 2021 #10
+1000. wnylib Aug 2021 #14
agree, though i'm of the impression the taliban are wanting the US to unfreeze their bank assets onetexan Aug 2021 #22
Yup. Mr. Evil Aug 2021 #23
The #1 is to get our troops out of there without anymore risk. rockfordfile Aug 2021 #15
Media ridiculously stirring the pot for ratings with that idiotic headline BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #16
Sounds like Alexander Haig is in charge again. I call bullshit on CNN, and the other media whores JohnSJ Aug 2021 #18

David__77

(23,369 posts)
4. The US will be unlikely to verify everyone
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:37 PM
Aug 2021

At some point the US will withdraw without everyone accounted for. I think that may be better than all other options.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
12. I object to their choice of words,
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:13 AM
Aug 2021

e.g. saying that the military has given Biden a deadline and later calling it an ultimatum.

The president is the commander in chief. Nobody gives him an ultimatum. They gave him information that he needs in order to make a decision. That is not an ultimatum. That is giving a report to their CO.

CNN is choosing words to create the impression that Biden is not in chsrge.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
19. Say what? That post is a non sequitur.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:01 AM
Aug 2021

First, 20 years has nothing to do with the info in the OP that the military gave to Biden. They told him how long it takes to pack themselves and their equipment up when leaving so he would know what kind of lead time they need when he gives the order to leave.

Second, as Commander-in-Chief, the president is the highest ranking officer in the US military - ALL divisions of it. The military is not GIVING Biden until Tuesday." The final decision on departure is the president's. They are merely informing him of logistic details that he needs in making HIS decision.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
3. I wonder how many US citizens are left.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:35 PM
Aug 2021

Is this known?

Also, is US in talks with Taliban on these issues?

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
13. US attempted negotiations with the
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:19 AM
Aug 2021

Taliban on the 8/31 deadline. The Taliban refused to agree to it.

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
9. I was just thinking the same thing.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 01:02 AM
Aug 2021

Q: Who is Commander-In-Chief?
A: President Joe Biden.

Q: Who gives orders to the military?
A: President Joe Biden.

Q: When will we finally be out of Afghanistan?
A: When President Joe Biden fucking says so!

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
11. Bad headline. They're not giving him an order.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 01:35 AM
Aug 2021

They simply said that a decision is needed by Tuesday in order to meet the August 31 deadline. Biden can do whatever he wants, but if he waits then the deadline to withdraw troops may be missed.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
20. I take it more as they (the folks doing the job) are informing him
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 03:55 AM
Aug 2021

that in order to pull out by end of august, they need to know at this time so that they can properly execute the order. Basically giving him an assessment of the situation.

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
8. stay...
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:21 AM
Aug 2021

...as long as it takes...

...offer the Taliban some cash to keep still and shut up...

...if the Taliban truly wants us out they should be working with us...

...I'm sure the U.S. military has the means to stay on top of this...

...if not, we'd better start being nicer to China...

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
10. Or if the Taliban want to be dicks,
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 01:09 AM
Aug 2021

then President Biden can insure them that we might reverse previous directives and return with 300,000 troops along with every single weapons system we have at our disposal.

Fuck the Taliban and anyone here trying to stir up controversy for ratings or some other bullshit reason.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
22. agree, though i'm of the impression the taliban are wanting the US to unfreeze their bank assets
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:21 AM
Aug 2021

so they have reason to honor their word. That or face bombers coming for them.

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
23. Yup.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 11:05 AM
Aug 2021

They'll play nice until they get their money.
If it was me, I'd tell them in no uncertain terms that that money is being re-appropriated as payback for all the money Ashraf Ghani fled Afghanistan with.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
15. The #1 is to get our troops out of there without anymore risk.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:43 AM
Aug 2021

The Americans there had plenty of time to get out over a year. It's because some of them we're in this mess.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
16. Media ridiculously stirring the pot for ratings with that idiotic headline
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 05:25 AM
Aug 2021


The President gives the "orders" and an advisor is just an advisor giving "suggestions" or "recommendations" based on the best information they might have at the time. Otherwise they do as they are told.

JohnSJ

(92,136 posts)
18. Sounds like Alexander Haig is in charge again. I call bullshit on CNN, and the other media whores
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:10 AM
Aug 2021

trying to create headlines

Some "defense official directly familiar with the discussions"?

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