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Omaha Steve

(99,582 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:54 AM Aug 2021

Delta Air Lines is raising health insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees by $200 a month to c

Source: CNBC

By Leslie Josephs

Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian notified employees Wednesday that they will face $200 monthly increases on their health insurance premiums starting Nov. 1 if they aren’t vaccinated against Covid-19, citing steep costs to cover employees who are hospitalized with the virus.

Unvaccinated employees will face other restrictions, including indoor masking effective immediately and weekly Covid-19 tests starting Sept. 12 the Atlanta-based airline said in announcing new Covid policies for employees.

The measures are the latest attempt by a U.S. corporation to drive up Covid vaccination rates. Delta stopped short of an outright mandate like rival United Airlines established earlier this month. The airline, which self insures its employees, stands out in its plans to raise premiums for unvaccinated workers to cover the higher costs of insuring employees who get Covid.

“The average hospital stay for COVID-19 has cost Delta $50,000 per person,” Bastian said in an employee memo. “This surcharge will be necessary to address the financial risk the decision to not vaccinate is creating for our company. In recent weeks since the rise of the B.1.617.2 variant, all Delta employees who have been hospitalized with COVID were not fully vaccinated.”



Flight attendants hand out refreshments to a packed Delta Airlines flight traveling from Ronald Regan National Airport to MinneapolisSaint Paul International Airport on Friday, May 21, 2021.
Kent Nishimura | Los Angeles Times | Getty Images

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html



FULL title: Delta Air Lines is raising health insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees by $200 a month to cover higher Covid costs
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Delta Air Lines is raising health insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees by $200 a month to c (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2021 OP
Excellent!! n/t radical noodle Aug 2021 #1
Good. Don't want to follow the rules? Pay up. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2021 #2
I THINK ...... ALL companies should take this action. Trueblue1968 Aug 2021 #25
Outstanding! Stupidity and public endangerment OUGHT to be penalized. (nt) Paladin Aug 2021 #3
Now, that's the way to do it packman Aug 2021 #4
Yep. Smokers at higher risk pay extra also. n/t forgotmylogin Aug 2021 #5
Why don't they charge unvaccinated passengers extra too? dickthegrouch Aug 2021 #28
Play games, win prizes durablend Aug 2021 #6
We'll be seeing a steep spike in vaxxed Delta employees. argyl Aug 2021 #7
The "B.1.617.2 variant" mathematic Aug 2021 #8
Hah! Grokenstein Aug 2021 #19
Just heard on the radio. Good. underpants Aug 2021 #9
I like it! Owl Aug 2021 #10
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Aug 2021 #11
Delta employees who are not yet vaccinated are nearly all hardcore anti-vaxxers. mn9driver Aug 2021 #12
Like all rightwingers, whatever values they loudly scream they hold, once it affects the pocketbook, Rabrrrrrr Aug 2021 #16
We'll see how this holds up when challenged under the ACA rules madville Aug 2021 #13
We are in a pandemic, which is a public health crisis. There is a body Politicub Aug 2021 #17
Then the government should mandate it madville Aug 2021 #20
Should obese people pay more? Yes. NickB79 Aug 2021 #21
Observer is a right-wing extremist propaganda outlet. The excerpt is a lie. Politicub Aug 2021 #30
Probably? Grins Aug 2021 #31
Looks like there will be more job openings popping up 👌 yaesu Aug 2021 #14
A $200/month penalty is a small price to pay for having no moral center/being a coward Rabrrrrrr Aug 2021 #15
Awesome! bluestarone Aug 2021 #18
only $50,000? RicROC Aug 2021 #22
About time. dalton99a Aug 2021 #23
Now you get to pay for not getting your immunizations, anti-vaxxers! Aristus Aug 2021 #24
They are the first but not the last raising2moredems Aug 2021 #26
we tried the carrot, now it's time for the stick cadoman Aug 2021 #27
Delta vs Delta. Good for them!!! mucifer Aug 2021 #29
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
4. Now, that's the way to do it
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

Make the idiots pay for their convictions rather than us . Health companies should demand the same - not vaxxed, pay more for premiums

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
28. Why don't they charge unvaccinated passengers extra too?
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 02:04 AM
Aug 2021

The passengers are the ones most likely spreading it to the staff.
Isn’t this the country of equal protection?

argyl

(3,064 posts)
7. We'll be seeing a steep spike in vaxxed Delta employees.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:50 AM
Aug 2021

But that's not enough. They should be fired if this doesn't cause them to be vaccinated.
This is a great idea for smokers. But smokers don't pass a deadly virus to customers.

mn9driver

(4,423 posts)
12. Delta employees who are not yet vaccinated are nearly all hardcore anti-vaxxers.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:42 PM
Aug 2021

I work with these people. I’m hoping that most of them will quit rather than get vaxxed. They are nuts.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
16. Like all rightwingers, whatever values they loudly scream they hold, once it affects the pocketbook,
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:32 PM
Aug 2021

the fuckers will capitulate and change their tune.

And if being able to say "I would never have gotten Biden's vaccine if it was for the goddamn employer forcing, I sure as hell wouldn't have gotten vaccinated! But what's guy supposed to do? Just another sign that the libtards rate fascists." is what they need in order to get a vaccine in them, then so be it.

madville

(7,408 posts)
13. We'll see how this holds up when challenged under the ACA rules
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:05 PM
Aug 2021

My understanding was that only age, tobacco use and region/geographic location could be used as justification to increase premiums. I'm sure their labor unions will file lawsuits and use that as part of their argument.

I don't like the corporations having this power over their employees, it will be abused in other areas if it holds up in court. Obesity causes far more health problems and deaths than COVID, probably costs Delta a small fortune in healthcare costs, should they be able to charge obese people higher premiums based on their financial loses (just like they are justifying this)?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. We are in a pandemic, which is a public health crisis. There is a body
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:45 PM
Aug 2021

of federal law around public health that is addition to the ACA. We have not faced anything like this in our lifetimes, and it has been shown that vaccinations improve societal outcomes overall.

Regarding collective bargaining, I don’t see unions negotiating away other benefits in order to placate unvaccinated lunatics.

madville

(7,408 posts)
20. Then the government should mandate it
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021

Not corporate entities that are doing it for financial reasons.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
21. Should obese people pay more? Yes.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:54 PM
Aug 2021

If this is still accurate, the ACA already allows it.

https://observer.com/2015/09/unwell-how-the-affordable-care-act-lets-companies-punish-fat-employees/

Penalizing employees for pounds is perfectly legal. Under provisions in the Affordable Care Act, 2014, employers can charge employees an extra 30 percent of the total cost (employer and employee portions) of individual or family health benefits coverage if they don’t meet specific wellness goals, including body mass index (BMI). This is up from 20 percent, which was imposed in 2006 and permitted under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act regulations (HIPPAA). Prior to 2006, employees couldn’t be penalized for missing a wellness target.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. Observer is a right-wing extremist propaganda outlet. The excerpt is a lie.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 12:36 PM
Aug 2021

I looked for a reliable, corroborating source, and could not find one. Please don’t spread this rumor which is intended to spread disinformation about the ACA.

Please delete this. Right wing talking points and outlets are not allowed under the DU TOS.

Grins

(7,212 posts)
31. Probably?
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:10 PM
Aug 2021
“Obesity causes far more health problems and deaths than COVID, probably costs Delta a small fortune…”

That word “probably” is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence. Any evidence?

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
15. A $200/month penalty is a small price to pay for having no moral center/being a coward
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:29 PM
Aug 2021

They should feel goddamn lucky it's not more. I'd say raise it $5000/month. Make the asshole prepay for the entirety of their possibly coming Covid treatment and/or the Covid treatment for the poor innocents that the shitbag typhoid Marys will be infecting.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
22. only $50,000?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:09 PM
Aug 2021

A weeks stay at the Beth-Lutheran-7th Day Adventist hospital would be $50,000, just for the room?

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
24. Now you get to pay for not getting your immunizations, anti-vaxxers!
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:52 PM
Aug 2021

But as you guys always say: Freedom isn't free!

raising2moredems

(638 posts)
26. They are the first but not the last
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:51 PM
Aug 2021

I can hear the squeals of "my body, my choice, my freedom" lol.. A business' freedom to not put their financial safety at risk as well as mitigating the financial cost of stupidity. At will employment works both ways. And I will extremely curious to see if the wing nuts on the SCOTUS favor business (most likely) over "religious" freedom (less likely).

cadoman

(792 posts)
27. we tried the carrot, now it's time for the stick
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 01:57 AM
Aug 2021

Mandates incoming you damn MAGA fools. Vaxx up or leave the country.

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